No wonder all tracks sound the same nowadays...

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Posted by Mr.Mystery on Oct-10-2010 20:20:

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Originally posted by kuollutrunkkau5
Streaming copyrighted material is also illegal. Hence the 'all rights reserved' most people choose as their copyright.

Of course it is, but it's still not the same thing as outright stealing.

Posted by kuollutrunkkau5 on Oct-10-2010 20:23:

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Of course it is, but it's still not the same thing as outright stealing.
Morally maybe not. But the law and moral have little to do with each other.

It's the same legal principle that keeps youtube and let's say google alive. A publisher doesn't have to invest resources into investigating copyright, simply because no publisher has the resources to do so. They only have to take it down once they are approached by the copyright holder.

Posted by EddieZilker on Oct-10-2010 20:28:

quote:
Originally posted by kuollutrunkkau5
Morally maybe not. But the law and moral have little to do with each other.

Here's the part where I agree with you but then post something all-the-more screwy like, "look at marijuana and domestic battery laws in the United States. WAAAYYY, way, way too restrictive, IMO."

Posted by Mr.Mystery on Oct-10-2010 20:31:

quote:
Originally posted by kuollutrunkkau5
Morally maybe not. But the law and moral have little to do with each other.

It's the same legal principle that keeps youtube and let's say google alive. A publisher doesn't have to invest resources into investigating copyright, simply because no publisher has the resources to do so. They only have to take it down once they are approached by the copyright holder.
Sure enough. But I don't think that really changes my original point.

Posted by kuollutrunkkau5 on Oct-10-2010 20:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Sure enough. But I don't think that really changes my original point.
Well, your original point was that they would get legal troubles if they didn't put on a quality check. But they won't, because it's not illegal to not check.

It's only illegal to not cease and desist after the original copyright holder has informed you of the situation.

Posted by Mr.Mystery on Oct-10-2010 21:27:

Last word!

Posted by kuollutrunkkau5 on Oct-10-2010 22:38:

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Last word!
Mutta rottinettiyhteyksiä ja porojakin on perseessäni.

Ja puhunkin suomea sulle kunnes annat sille vastauksen, tai kerrot miksi et. =(

Posted by Mr.Mystery on Oct-10-2010 23:43:

Jep.

Posted by infiniteJEST on Oct-11-2010 00:01:

jesus shit dude

Posted by mistyg on Oct-11-2010 18:10:

NO I am

NO I AM NOT his girlfriend...just trying to make a point...And yes his silence is disturbing...but maybe just maybe he is looking to put forth the truth...What do you mean he has been lying to his friends for 10 years...about what!!!!!!

Posted by kuollutrunkkau5 on Oct-11-2010 18:12:

Re: NO I am

Posted by mistyg on Oct-11-2010 18:19:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by MSZ
are you his girlfriend?

did you know hes lying to his friends that hes known for 10years? NO I am NOT his girlfriend just making a point...and I hope he can prove everyone wrong...if not he is going to pay dearly for his stupidity!!!!!!

Posted by Mr.Mystery on Oct-11-2010 18:43:

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Originally posted by kuollutrunkkau5
I think your point to be reasonable. A lot of people always jump to conclusions without hearing both sides of the story.

Let the man make his own case and defence I say.

When you reach the point where his own label issues a public statement about what has happened I don't think there's much need for jumping to conclusions.

Posted by MSZ on Oct-11-2010 18:46:

just find it really awkward you signed up to make your post mistyg, and you seem to be from his city :} we are all waiting for him to explain himself, someone said he is a registered trance addict member.

Posted by Goebbel Goebbel on Oct-11-2010 18:51:

Re: NO I am

quote:
Originally posted by mistyg
NO I AM NOT his girlfriend...just trying to make a point...And yes his silence is disturbing...but maybe just maybe he is looking to put forth the truth...What do you mean he has been lying to his friends for 10 years...about what!!!!!!

he isn't going to make his case, because there is no case to make.

lets see:

-he's been found out

-he's been outed by the label that releases his music

-he has not said a word because he got caught with his hand in the cookie jar and essentially destroyed the chances of anyone ever taking him seriously.

no one is going to take a trance artist seriously to begin with, so i have to at least congratulate him on being able to take irrelevance to a whole new level. Onn his death bed he will be able to claim that at least.

Posted by mistyg on Oct-11-2010 20:17:

did you know hes lying to his friends that hes known for 10years? NO I am NOT his girlfriend just making a point...and I hope he can prove everyone wrong...if not he is going to pay dearly for his stupidity!!!!!!

I wonder why he has been lying to everyone...We all have a chance to do great or non great things...if we steal from others or wish our lives away we get what we put into life.....A BIG FAT NOTHING..and when you lie all the time the truth will bite you in the back side when you are not expecting it...Mike needs to own up to the truth or admit he stole the music and get on with life....But what about ones self worth to ourselves...Where has that gone with him??????

Posted by Goebbel Goebbel on Oct-11-2010 20:41:

he has obviously been falling over himself trying to give us his side of the story, but is just too busy helping OJ Simpson find the real killers.

Posted by kuollutrunkkau5 on Oct-11-2010 20:47:

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quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
When you reach the point where his own label issues a public statement about what has happened I don't think there's much need for jumping to conclusions.
Labels have done weird things in the past.

Besides, they do anything to shift blame, it's not like they have a personal relationship with them or something.

Maybe the label is trying to cover up their own goof that they accidentally switched tracks? Maybe this guy never approached the label in the first place and they just used his name out of nowhere to steal tracks. And are now shifting blame, who knows?

Posted by Goebbel Goebbel on Oct-11-2010 20:51:

are you fucking kidding me?

idiocy 1 logic 0.

Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Oct-11-2010 21:18:

loooooooooooool CTers in MD this is hilarious

anyways he did it its obvious end of thread unless someone knows his username here and can post it.

Posted by mistyg on Oct-11-2010 23:58:

quote:
Originally posted by MSZ
just find it really awkward you signed up to make your post mistyg, and you seem to be from his city :} we are all waiting for him to explain himself, someone said he is a registered trance addict member.

How many PEOPLE live in Oshawa???I believe more then 2...so your answer or point is mute...I am not his girlfriend or friend I was trying to be diplomatic and not take sides...But if he was stupid enough to steal it he will pay for that big time...I do not like to relish in someone elses misery or stupidity but an ace is an ace...and he should have responded by now if he was the original artist!!!But you never know what tomorrow will bring!!

Posted by mistyg on Oct-12-2010 00:09:

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quote:
Originally posted by kuollutrunkkau5
Labels have done weird things in the past.

Besides, they do anything to shift blame, it's not like they have a personal relationship with them or something.

Maybe the label is trying to cover up their own goof that they accidentally switched tracks? Maybe this guy never approached the label in the first place and they just used his name out of nowhere to steal tracks. And are now shifting blame, who knows?

You are definately WRONG Sorry but he approached them with his???mix!!!! They did not approach him..He stated he put this together a couple of years ago...This is not the labels fault..they took him at face value believing what he told them was the truth...Is it the truth?That is the clincher! And there is no label in the world that can verify a mix to be the one the person is claiming to be theirs...unless they release it and realize it was produced by another artist!!Like this....

Posted by kuollutrunkkau5 on Oct-12-2010 09:43:

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quote:
Originally posted by mistyg
You are definately WRONG Sorry but he approached them with his???mix!!!! They did not approach him..He stated he put this together a couple of years ago...This is not the labels fault..they took him at face value believing what he told them was the truth...Is it the truth?That is the clincher! And there is no label in the world that can verify a mix to be the one the person is claiming to be theirs...unless they release it and realize it was produced by another artist!!Like this....
That's the story of the label, they can also ehrr, lie.

Posted by Mr.Mystery on Oct-12-2010 10:34:

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Posted by kuollutrunkkau5 on Oct-12-2010 10:35:

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quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Yeah, that doesn't sound ridiculous at all. Especially when there's no rebuttal whatsoever.
Does it sound any more ridiculous than a guy trying to pass a hit to a label as his own and succeeding in fooling them?

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