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Posted by Brennen on Oct-14-2010 19:02:

quote:
Originally posted by feelgood
My biggest concern with joining 'the collective' would be the necessary concessions I would have to make.


I was wondering the same thing. I sent them an email and hopefully they can clarify some things for me


Posted by audioacademy on Oct-14-2010 19:48:

Feelgood

We are an unabashed commercial endeavor.

Our goal (which we recognize is quite lofty) is to create commercially successful and internationally viable DJ/Producers.

Obviously there are many schools of thought and some people believe that by catering to current trends that in some way you are sacrificing your artistic integrity.

Our philosophy is to throw all that bullshit out the door. This month we asked Oliver (a French house producer in the Collective) to produce a dub step track. One of our most accomplished Tech House producers Paolo produced his first Electro track.

Were both tracks a success? That's debatable. However, we're forcing our team members to expand their horizons and by extension we're hoping to ignite their imagination. We're tearing down genre barriers and we're embracing innovation, experimentation and co-operation.

If trying to make money of your music and pushing the boundaries of your knowledge sounds compelling drop a line.

If you disagree with our philosophy I understand and respect that.


Best,
Alen


Posted by Brennen on Oct-14-2010 19:57:

quote:
The expectations are pretty straightforward:

The AudioAcademy books top talent and brings them into the city. For instance we're bringing in Richard Vission on Nov 13th to Time.

Members of the Collective need to sell tickets to the show. We pay the customary 25% of each ticket sale back to the DJ. In addition, the top sales guy gets the number one opening slot. The number two sales guy gets the second slot and so on.

We also expect each member to create one remix based on an assignment we give you each month.

You will be given a remix assignment deadline. Once your remix is done it is peer reviewed by one of the top producers in the city in a group setting at Number 9 Studios.

Typically the feedback is quite technical. From that technical feedback we then assign you a research article. For instance last night _______ was told he need to improve upon his ducking. He's now tasked with writing an article that explains ducking and provides concrete examples of ducking in practice.


Posted by feelgood on Oct-14-2010 20:25:

Re: Feelgood

quote:
Originally posted by audioacademy


I appreciate the response.

Like you mentioned.. it is a different school of thought.

quote:
some people believe that by catering to current trends that in some way you are sacrificing your artistic integrity.


I would argue that is the very essence of sacrificing artistic integrity. If you're letting trends dictate your style, there is no need for your own personal style.

Regardless, you have outlined the collectives ambitions clearly. Personally not my cup of tea, but I can definitely see how this would be appealing. Plenty of resources at the DJ's disposal, healthy in house competition, rewards for doing well etc.

I ain't ever gonna produce a dubstep track though...

All the best!


Posted by Brennen on Oct-14-2010 21:01:

Sorry, this isn't for me...


Posted by Ozmozis on Oct-14-2010 21:18:

DJ SHAMWOW!


Posted by LKD on Oct-14-2010 21:19:

Re: Feelgood

quote:
Originally posted by audioacademy
This month we asked Oliver (a French house producer in the Collective) to produce a dub step track. One of our most accomplished Tech House producers Paolo produced his first Electro track.

Were both tracks a success? That's debatable. However, we're forcing our team members to expand their horizons and by extension we're hoping to ignite their imagination. We're tearing down genre barriers and we're embracing innovation, experimentation and co-operation.


In those 2 paragraphs there are just a whole load of paradoxes.

Good luck with your endeavors but I personally would not want to be forced to make a certain style unless I'm in the mood to. You don't grab someone into a group saying your eclectic when it's one big commercial experiment.

I think out of the box when I produce but I know it's not commercial enough for you people.


Posted by LKD on Oct-14-2010 21:20:

quote:
Originally posted by OZm�zis
DJ SHAMWOW!



Posted by Brennen on Oct-14-2010 21:46:

Re: Re: Feelgood

quote:
Originally posted by LKD
In those 2 paragraphs there are just a whole load of paradoxes.

Good luck with your endeavors but I personally would not want to be forced to make a certain style unless I'm in the mood to. You don't grab someone into a group saying your eclectic when it's one big commercial experiment.

I think out of the box when I produce but I know it's not commercial enough for you people.


He failed to mention you dont get paid for any productions...BUT...
you do get the following

1. have your track listened to
2. be able to sell tickets to events
3. get booked at one of their events if you happen to sell the most tickets


Posted by LKD on Oct-14-2010 21:48:

Re: Re: Re: Feelgood

quote:
Originally posted by Brennen
He failed to mention you dont get paid for any productions


orly?


Posted by ChemEnhanced on Oct-14-2010 21:49:

to me it sounds more like a school for DJs then anything else


Posted by audioacademy on Oct-14-2010 21:52:

Re: No payment for productions

Brennen... we assign the publishing rights for the track to the band that we're remixing. Meaning the AudioAcademy doesn't profit from the remix either.


Posted by Brennen on Oct-14-2010 21:59:

Re: Re: No payment for productions

quote:
Originally posted by audioacademy
Brennen... we assign the publishing rights for the track to the band that we're remixing. Meaning the AudioAcademy doesn't profit from the remix either.


So you just proved me right...thanks

Me: hey want to by tickets to this party
Friend: Are you playing?
Me: I dont know
Friend: why would I go if you're not playing?

end of conversation

If you want promoters...HIRE PROMOTERS!!!


Posted by LKD on Oct-14-2010 22:45:

Re: Re: No payment for productions

quote:
Originally posted by audioacademy
Brennen... we assign the publishing rights for the track to the band that we're remixing. Meaning the AudioAcademy doesn't profit from the remix either.


when you're talking about 'publishing rights', you ARE talking about the remixes being SOLD, right?


Posted by Summerlover on Oct-15-2010 18:41:

Thumbs up Re: Re: Re: No payment for productions

quote:
Originally posted by Brennen
So you just proved me right...thanks

Me: hey want to by tickets to this party
Friend: Are you playing?
Me: I dont know
Friend: why would I go if you're not playing?

end of conversation

If you want promoters...HIRE PROMOTERS!!!


Not getting paid for gigs, not getting paid for productions, no guarentee you'll even get to dj...


Posted by Espresso on Oct-15-2010 22:05:

quote:
The top sales guy gets the number one opening slot. The number two sales guy gets the second slot and so on.


That's talent recognition, right there.


Posted by ChemEnhanced on Oct-15-2010 22:06:

Re: Re: Re: Re: No payment for productions

quote:
Originally posted by Summerlover
Not getting paid for gigs, not getting paid for productions, no guarentee you'll even get to dj...


where do I sign up


Posted by MSZ on Oct-15-2010 22:29:


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