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Someone draw a penis on robocop.

A local independent cinema is showing Robocop back to back with Total Recall this month. I'll watch that for a dollar.

Starship Troopers was created for only one purpose: to reboot Doogie Howser's career.

good piece of criticism jack. Love Robocop and the best part of the movie is that it is an art film pretending to be a hollywood action movie. Verhoeven was definitely the most intriguing and probably best director working in Hollywood during the 80s-2000s. Showgirls is probably my favorite Verhoeven film because by that point, Verhoeven is basically just even attacking the intelligence of the audience and its central premise, that capitalism has turned the US into a nation of whores, probably rings more true today than even when it came out.

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To me Starship Troopers is basically a satire of the audience and action movies in general. It paradoes FMJ etc. not to make a broader point about society, but to question the very nature of the audience that comes to see war films to begin with, and the audacity of a director trying to somehow capture the brutality of war through action scenes that just seem to entertain the audience who pays money to watch them. I think for Verhoeven, action movies just prove the inherit fascist nature of people and how the cinema encourages this fascism. Like Showgirls, I think Verhoeven is basically satirizing the people in the audience themselves for wanting to see killings for their 7 bucks or tits and ass etc.

Ive never seen robocop. I dont ever plan too.


and a lot of you may be shocked by that since i am the ultimate 80s child. but i was a fan of bad guys, i hated good guys growing up

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Originally posted by paulversuspaul good piece of criticism jack. Love Robocop and the best part of the movie is that it is an art film pretending to be a hollywood action movie. Verhoeven was definitely the most intriguing and probably best director working in Hollywood during the 80s-2000s. Showgirls is probably my favorite Verhoeven film because by that point, Verhoeven is basically just even attacking the intelligence of the audience and its central premise, that capitalism has turned the US into a nation of whores, probably rings more true today than even when it came out. Edit/update: To me Starship Troopers is basically a satire of the audience and action movies in general. It paradoes FMJ etc. not to make a broader point about society, but to question the very nature of the audience that comes to see war films to begin with, and the audacity of a director trying to somehow capture the brutality of war through action scenes that just seem to entertain the audience who pays money to watch them. I think for Verhoeven, action movies just prove the inherit fascist nature of people and how the cinema encourages this fascism. Like Showgirls, I think Verhoeven is basically satirizing the people in the audience themselves for wanting to see killings for their 7 bucks or tits and ass etc.

orrrrrrrrrrr he's trying to make a buck

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Originally posted by paulversuspaul Edit/update: To me Starship Troopers is basically a satire of the audience and action movies in general. It paradoes FMJ etc. not to make a broader point about society, but to question the very nature of the audience that comes to see war films to begin with, and the audacity of a director trying to somehow capture the brutality of war through action scenes that just seem to entertain the audience who pays money to watch them. I think for Verhoeven, action movies just prove the inherit fascist nature of people and how the cinema encourages this fascism. Like Showgirls, I think Verhoeven is basically satirizing the people in the audience themselves for wanting to see killings for their 7 bucks or tits and ass etc.

I'm unconvinced. I think the film lacks the satirical clarity of Robocop. It's just a big mash-up of these different tropes from different places that don't really coalesce into a focused critique on anything in particular.

Crucially for me, Robocop may be an implicit satire of its own genre, but it remains one of the best examples of that genre. Verhoeven earns his right to criticise '80s action movies because he shows he can do it better than the film-makers he's mocking. Starship Troopers, on the other hand, just isn't a particularly good film. It's entertaining in places and technically well made, but the plot is dragged down by cornball shit for large sections, the action scenes are filled with cheap contrivances, and huge parts of the film are so conceptually implausible the viewer is required to disengage their intelligence in order to accept what they're being shown. The suggestion is often made that Starship Troopers deliberately contains these flaws, but it hardly strikes me as a film that is laughing at its own silliness, a la Airplane or The Naked Gun. Consequently, any appreciation of Starship Troopers can only really happen on a satirical meta-level. I don't think any director should ever be allowed to make a deliberately bad movie at the cost of tens of millions of dollars just to make a statement.

All I know is that I was confused by the ending of Starship Troopers 3. To this day, I'm still not sure if I'm supposed to laugh at it or if they really intended for it to be taken as seriously as they seemed to strive for.

Watched it and enjoyed.

Is the new one any good? I remember driving by King St. and seeing a part of it filmed.

Is the new one any good? I remember driving by King St. and seeing a part of it filmed.

George Chuvalo is in it

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Originally posted by wotyzoid Watched it and enjoyed.

Me too.

I guess this post is old, great article system j, although the first paragraph made me chuckle, reboot trilogy.

The new one was basically batman. From the music, to the exposition and the acting ..... It was just weird. I'm sure Morgan freeman will show up once he is hiding from the law and need a tech and finds the brilliant black guy trope working as a janetor. I suppose samuel j would have to be killed tho as union rules are explicit on only 1 a list black person per film.

Yeah, this article is ancient history. When I wrote it the remake was in the works, then it got cancelled and the editor made me change the intro. Now's it's been made and released and is probably out on Blu Ray by now. Scary how quickly four years can pass.

Dredd was a much better Robocop movie than the new Robocop.

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