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Originally posted by CalebGolston Pete Heller :O I love his song 'Simpler (New Mix)' I agree with your thoughts. One exception to the 'crowd' thing: I remember hearing a story that Paul Oakenfold was playing a stadium and had 'Southern Sun' on and the crowd wanted it again. He literly let the record play out and put the needle back at the beggining. That is an example where I think it was incredible atmosphere and a legendary moment. Now, if they were screaming for 'The Reward Is Cheese' it just woldn't be the same Of course, in my opinion there aren't DJs like the old Paul Oakenfold anymore (and I only know from hearing old sets, I hadn't even heard of most electronic music until 2006 well after Oakenfold 'sold out').

No it was his track sabotage that I had to play. Not my fave although he does have some good tracks.

Anyway, the difference with the oakenfold thing to me is that everyone (including him) knew why he was there, and it was his own track. So it was really a complement to him as a producer even if it was an insult to him as a DJ.

To just go up and ask an underground DJ in a nightclub to drop a commercial track (twice) is just really insulting and ignorant so its quite different IMO. And of course, a stadium is a very different venue to a nighclub and suits different music.

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Originally posted by Beatflux No it doesn't.

Care to elaborate?

I'm going by experience and many people have said the same in the past. M4B has just explained what I am saying. I'm certain most people who dj'd on a regular basis for a few years and then turn to producing can say that spinning records helped in some way.

It does help as you understand where to have the break, build up's break down's, what sounds you would use in a track etc etc. I'm not saying you have to dj to understand structure, I'm saying it helps. Just listening to music at home is just as good but if you are dj-ing every week then its going to give you an some understanding of what works and at least what direction you want.

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Originally posted by CalebGolston Only thing I would debate, I think 90% of people want to be DJs and 10% producers. I imagine most people try producing for a year realise it is next to impossible and give up. Also, ironically, I think it is easier for people to give your productions a chance, becuase it is so easy to tell in 30 seconds if they are good or not. Wheras a DJ set takes a long time to know. Also, I am not implying being a Sasha or Digweed at their peak is easy. Creating an amazing flawless set is really hard. Putting together a good set though, is not very hard at all.

Indeed that is true, and it probably wont change. Dj-ing is going to be the popular choice. Although Dj-ing is hard to get to a good level with so many people doing it, a lot of people give up and sell their decks when it gets too much like hard work.

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Originally posted by music2dance2 Care to elaborate? I'm going by experience and many people have said the same in the past. M4B has just explained what I am saying. I'm certain most people who dj'd on a regular basis for a few years and then turn to producing can say that spinning records helped in some way. It does help as you understand where to have the break, build up's break down's, what sounds you would use in a track etc etc. I'm not saying you have to dj to understand structure, I'm saying it helps. Just listening to music at home is just as good but if you are dj-ing every week then its going to give you an some understanding of what works and at least what direction you want.

I was a musician first and it helped me understand how to DJ. They are very complementary skills IMO whichever order you learn them in.

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Originally posted by music2dance2 Care to elaborate? I'm going by experience and many people have said the same in the past. M4B has just explained what I am saying. I'm certain most people who dj'd on a regular basis for a few years and then turn to producing can say that spinning records helped in some way. It does help as you understand where to have the break, build up's break down's, what sounds you would use in a track etc etc. I'm not saying you have to dj to understand structure, I'm saying it helps. Just listening to music at home is just as good but if you are dj-ing every week then its going to give you an some understanding of what works and at least what direction you want.

As opposed to careful listening?

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Originally posted by Beatflux As opposed to careful listening?

Why "opposed?"

Careful listening will help you understand structure and the basic different elements of a track.

DJ's will regularly listen to tracks very carefully, learning when phrases finish, new elements come in etc etc.

So by default, being a DJ will give you the "careful listening" that may help out when you start producing.

It doesn't have to be one or the other.

even if it isn't careful listening, it is listening and better than not listening.

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Originally posted by Beatflux As opposed to careful listening?

Well yes. Of course listening is a given, no need to explain that. My point wasnt about which one to do, but, when you dj you also learn a lot about the music and it becomes almost 2nd nature of how tracks are built and how they progress etc. This alone helps if you was to start to produce, as most DJ's tend to move into producing these days.

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Originally posted by kitphillips I was a musician first and it helped me understand how to DJ. They are very complementary skills IMO whichever order you learn them in.

Indeed, many have said they go hand in hand. Its natural. Being a singer on stage, then to learn an instrument I'm sure has its connections as the singer would understand the harmonic's/notes from their singing to help them in some way. Everything has a connection in some way.

I have the feeling that dj's are booked according to their productions since most just mix , don't have any representative skill , but some people say that for producers djing is the easiest part, i know some producers whose sets are cow crap but generally is something that comes in the pack.

Djs will make their tracks appealing for the crowd, with the risk that instead of making art/music they start to make just groovy noise, in this matter you can see that some producers like Andy Blueman, Chris Reece , Vincent de Moore have a special sensibility for the music, isn't just a drum with nigga vocals.

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Originally posted by Rodri Santos I have the feeling that dj's are booked according to their productions since most just mix , don't have any representative skill , but some people say that for producers djing is the easiest part, i know some producers whose sets are cow crap but generally is something that comes in the pack. Djs will make their tracks appealing for the crowd, with the risk that instead of making art/music they start to make just groovy noise, in this matter you can see that some producers like Andy Blueman, Chris Reece , Vincent de Moore have a special sensibility for the music, isn't just a drum with nigga vocals.

Agreed, nowadays things have change and if you have good tracks out that is where you get the bookings also.

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Originally posted by Rodri Santos isn't just a drum with nigga vocals.

Where you come from that might be acceptable but you are on a global forum here so I would advise to keep those nasty comments to yourself!

nah i wasn't being racist just a kind of joke we call here a lot of the commercial house "black music house" but didn't pretend to be racist sorry if i was unpolite.

It's impolite, spick.

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Originally posted by Rodri Santos nah i wasn't being racist just a kind of joke we call here a lot of the commercial house "black music house" but didn't pretend to be racist sorry if i was unpolite.

I'm fully aware of people in other countries describing things in their own way. I didnt think you was rascist. The point is you cant think what you say locally with friends, will ok to also say on a forum that is used globally, thats all. Just be careful what you type.

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Originally posted by JEO spick.

This is actually the opposite of me.

Take a "joke", man.

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