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i might buy an ipad 2 for my mom. she sometimes uses my computer to surf the net but she could use it to facetime relatives for the most part which saves on long distance bills.

id prefer to hold out for the ipad 3 (fall 2011) because it will most likely have an sd card slot and newer features.

id prefer the motorola xoom/playbook but id like to test it out first since this is a new buy for me. apps and features will be factor for me. id also like to spend less than $700 ish for whatever unit is available at the time. maybe even wait till christmas time to get one. we'll see.

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Originally posted by Dior Homme maybe even wait till christmas time to get one. we'll see.

Thats my plan, unless an android tablet really just WOWS me this summer and the price is right.

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Originally posted by Jem_hadar Thats my plan, unless an android tablet really just WOWS me this summer and the price is right.

Such a long time in terms of technological change. People will find so many uses for tablets by the end of the year. Even development of apps will blow up tenfold after all the apps on phones.
I'm predicting a big want for the masses this holiday.

May not have the biggest growth in recent years, they are working on it IMO, but they still dominate the market share with more than TWICE of the share than Apple coming in 2nd in behind.

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Originally posted by VERTiG0 Nobody will buy a Playbook

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Originally posted by Dr. Z Does anyone here have tablets/is buying one?

I'm buying a Playbook as soon as it comes out April 10th. I can get one from work, but prefer to have my own. Besides the SD card gripe, it has everything else I want, especially as a current BB user and it being work related. I will be working very closely with the Playbook once it is launched in the North American market. Which one I buy, and from where is yet to be determined once actual prices for each model is released. I would like the 64GB with the 4G capability if available. Depending on how much it costs I'll either buy one outright, or perhaps get it on a 90days or 1year no interest with a Future Shop or Best Buy card. Maybe even Rogers may have some sort of subsidized price plan for the Playbooks if you're already a Rogers/BIS customer.

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Originally posted by Mach X I'm buying a Playbook as soon as it comes out April 10th. I can get one from work, but prefer to have my own. Besides the SD card gripe, it has everything else I want, especially as a current BB user and it being work related. I will be working very closely with the Playbook once it is launched in the North American market. Which one I buy, and from where is yet to be determined once actual prices for each model is released. I would like the 64GB with the 4G capability if available. Depending on how much it costs I'll either buy one outright, or perhaps get it on a 90days or 1year no interest with a Future Shop or Best Buy card. Maybe even Rogers may have some sort of subsidized price plan for the Playbooks if you're already a Rogers/BIS customer.

For me the biggest thing is travelling. I don't want to have to carry my laptop everywhere I go; the PlayBook is perfect. Even saves me once piece of carry on. Can't wait to get it.

It's the little things like that that are so incredibly valuable.

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Originally posted by Mach X May not have the biggest growth in recent years, they are working on it IMO, but they still dominate the market share with more than TWICE of the share than Apple coming in 2nd in behind.

That's irrelevant. Blackberries are much cheaper than iPhones (some of them even come free with a 2 year plan on Verizon in the US). Plus, tons of corporations buy massive amounts of blackberries for employees, because all they need to use them for is email. Every single person for the company I work for who is a Manager of a division or higher has a corporate provided Blackberry. Their market share has nothing to do with the quality/performance of their phones.

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Originally posted by srussell0018 That's irrelevant. Blackberries are much cheaper than iPhones (some of them even come free with a 2 year plan on Verizon in the US). Plus, tons of corporations buy massive amounts of blackberries for employees, because all they need to use them for is email. Every single person for the company I work for who is a Manager of a division or higher has a corporate provided Blackberry. Their market share has nothing to do with the quality/performance of their phones.

Ok then, so if iPhones are so great, why don't companies buy massive amounts of them for their employees? What does BlackBerry have something that is superior to the iPhone and Androids that make them so desirable by corporations globally and are the industry standard for business communications devices?!

(The question was rhetorical, I know the answer, u don't need you answer it, I was just was making a point)

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Originally posted by Mach X Ok then, so if iPhones are so great, why don't companies buy massive amounts of them for their employees? What does BlackBerry have something that is superior to the iPhone and Androids that make them so desirable by corporations globally and are the industry standard for business communications devices?! (The question was rhetorical, I know the answer, u don't need you answer it, I was just was making a point)

Well I should hope you would know the answer, because it's painfully obvious.

I wish my company provided iPhones

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Originally posted by srussell0018 Well I should hope you would know the answer, because it's painfully obvious. I wish my company provided iPhones

And then you can't deny their place in the smartphone industry, or knock them down for their recent releases or offerings to the tech world. Having a BlackBerry and a BIS/BES is what makes them who they are, what they came for and what they do. They are the industry leader/standard for what their prime and intended purpose is.

So be it if that reason doesn't exactly resonate with the average end user anymore because they rather throw birds at things and have an app that makes fart noises.

I just need it to communicate, so BlackBerry does what I need it to do. I get my emails, can send them, use BBM, I have access to social networks and make calls and send txts. I got a few apps and I'm sorted.

And my eagerness for the Playbook is to perhaps bridge the gap or fill the void that may be missing without a iPhone. I can use it with my BlackBerry, and utilize it as a more media and app based device. I don't need it to be my fuckin computer, I have one of those at home.

Everyone thinks I'm pissing on iPhones and other apple products. I'm not, I think they are great, but too fuckin expensive and often overrated by obsessive fanboys and this mystique of sexy-elite-nerdom.

I just get really fuckin irritated when I see some douchebag with a iPhone4 on a pay as you go voice only plan or some shit like that just so that piece of shit can say he has an iPhone and whip it out whenever and use it as visual accessory to appear cool or hip over it's actual capabilities as a smartphone. Same goes for retards who go and buy macbooks and macbook pros with specs that are ridiculous, drop over $2k on one and then use it for browsing the fuckin internet and playing movies.

Well I must admit I am definitely a fan of Apple products (although I've never owned an iPhone, but am thinking of getting one now that it's out on Verizon), but on my iMac at home I also run Windows and Linux on it for work. It's not the brand name or the aesthetics of Macs, imo they just work better.

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Originally posted by srussell0018 It's not the brand name or the aesthetics of Macs, imo they just work better.

any proof of that?

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Originally posted by srussell0018 imo they just work better.

Yes, and thats the mentality of most people, although it depends on what that is. Most clueless people just think they work better or maybe its the user friendly interfaces or systems integration. maybe people just need simple easy to use things in order for them to like them or think they are better. the interfaces of mac products are also colorful and lively, look more fun and simple. so i can see why people would like to use them.

most pc interfaces seem to be complicated and overbearing. much like cockpit of an airplane. even though people have mostly grown up with pcs and now are getting accustomed to macs, they have found machines easier to use and use lots of shortcuts.

i say this because the programs i use are school are generally better on pcs than mac. 3d modelling programs on pcs kill macs. although autocad and rhino seem to be making their transitions to the mac platform, i still think they are better used on a pc. which i love because i switch over to my bootcamp side and i have the best of both worlds.

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Originally posted by geroin any proof of that?

Proof of my opinion? Yeah, it's my opinion. I meant for me, liking Macs better doesn't have anything to do with the user-friendliness or aesthetics of them.

I've used both Windows and Mac OS, and my opinion is that the Mac OSX is programmed better, runs smoother, and is more secure than Windows.

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Originally posted by Dior Homme Yes, and thats the mentality of most people, although it depends on what that is. Most clueless people just think they work better or maybe its the user friendly interfaces or systems integration. maybe people just need simple easy to use things in order for them to like them or think they are better. the interfaces of mac products are also colorful and lively, look more fun and simple. so i can see why people would like to use them. most pc interfaces seem to be complicated and overbearing. much like cockpit of an airplane. even though people have mostly grown up with pcs and now are getting accustomed to macs, they have found machines easier to use and use lots of shortcuts. i say this because the programs i use are school are generally better on pcs than mac. 3d modelling programs on pcs kill macs. although autocad and rhino seem to be making their transitions to the mac platform, i still think they are better used on a pc. which i love because i switch over to my bootcamp side and i have the best of both worlds.

Just because certain programs work better on Windows platforms doesn't mean Windows is a better OS.

"Running better" although yes, many people blindly think this because of the user-friendly nature of Macs, is an actual discernable difference between Mac and Windows. Mac is a Unix-based system, and a lot of that "user friendly" nature is because Unix is far more stable and runs far smoother than any Windows platforms. Maybe it's easier to use because it's programmed better?

PC interfaces seem complicated and overbearing to not-so-tech-savvy users because Windows frankly isn't programmed all that well. A Mac can do pretty much everything a Windows machine can, it's just that most PC users don't know how to do the equivalent on a Mac, so they just assume that the capability doesn't exist.

I work in IT, and I work with PCs exclusively at work, but I use nothing but Macs at home, because in my opinion, they're just all-around better machines (unless you built your own PC), and use a much better OS.

PS. All of those shortcuts you talk about, if not more, exist on Macs as well.

imo PCs work a lot better than macs.

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Originally posted by geroin any proof of that?

You want proof of his opinion G??

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Originally posted by smuncky imo PCs work a lot better than macs.

You had experience with Macs??

Cause I'm very used to pc and I agree with you but I have no Mac experience so I'm a little ignorant on the comparison...

I do prefer my iPhone head and shoulders above any other though so I wonder if I tinker a lot with a Mac, I might make the switch...

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Originally posted by smuncky imo PCs work a lot better than macs.

Aside from going to the Apple store and playing with one, or using your buddy's, have you ever owned a Mac?

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Originally posted by VDub You had experience with Macs?? Cause I'm very used to pc and I agree with you but I have no Mac experience so I'm a little ignorant on the comparison... I do prefer my iPhone head and shoulders above any other though so I wonder if I tinker a lot with a Mac, I might make the switch...

You should definitely try. The learning curve is nowhere as steep as with a first-time PC user. You have all similar keyboard shortcuts, etc. Give it a whirl. If you prefer your iPhone over anything else, I would imagine you'd feel the same once you got used to a Mac. I still have an old Powerbook from like 5 or 6 years ago back before they even used Intel chips, and I still prefer that to the brand new Dells that we have at work.

I've used both, and yes switching from PC to Mac does take some getting used to, but once you "get it" I don't think you'll want to go back. Everybody that I know that has made the switch from PC to Mac and actually committed to learning the OS as they knew the Windows platform has never gone back.

Ah...the OSX vs Windows argument. First of all, they are all PCs, personal computers, so any of you that are making other statements are idiots.

I am a systems admin for an animation company, and we run a completely mixed environment. Our entire editing department is using Mac Pros, and I must tell you these people know how retarded OSX can be. When most people say one works better than the other, it is because they have not used either system that in depth.

The amount of mysterious events, and errors we see in OSX, is just as high, or higher than our Windows based machines.

The single biggest reason people are over whelmed with Windows, is because the errors they get are actually descriptive. When you get an error in OSx, it is "error 12" and that is it. So the user does not see any extra info, which they do not understand, and they get the feeling that things are simple. But as an admin, trying to track down errors, and fixes in OSX is a nightmare.

Our game development team feels the same way here. The amount of frustration they go through, dealing with obscure, and poorly documented errors in OSX causes a lot frustration and lost time and money.

I personally used a mac for 7 months an a job before I installed Windows on it so that I could actually get work done in a more efficient manner.

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Originally posted by Orko Ah...the OSX vs Windows argument. First of all, they are all PCs, personal computers, so any of you that are making other statements are idiots. I am a systems admin for an animation company, and we run a completely mixed environment. Our entire editing department is using Mac Pros, and I must tell you these people know how retarded OSX can be. When most people say one works better than the other, it is because they have not used either system that in depth. The amount of mysterious events, and errors we see in OSX, is just as high, or higher than our Windows based machines. The single biggest reason people are over whelmed with Windows, is because the errors they get are actually descriptive. When you get an error in OSx, it is "error 12" and that is it. So the user does not see any extra info, which they do not understand, and they get the feeling that things are simple. But as an admin, trying to track down errors, and fixes in OSX is a nightmare. Our game development team feels the same way here. The amount of frustration they go through, dealing with obscure, and poorly documented errors in OSX causes a lot frustration and lost time and money. I personally used a mac for 7 months an a job before I installed Windows on it so that I could actually get work done in a more efficient manner.

I don't think anyone was saying that either one were not PCs? The only thing I said was that Macs have Unix-based OS's and Windows platforms do not.

As I said before, my company uses almost exclusively PCs and I still prefer Macs at home. Either way, somebody's claims on a web forum shouldn't sway your decision. The only thing I can say is that you should try both and see which one you prefer. If you're used to PCs, however, it may take more than a 5 minute play around with an Apple store demo before you figure everything out, so don't give up too quickly.

To the Orko, god forbid you have to google what an error means in OSX. The kinds of errors you're getting typically never happen when you're using a Mac for personal use, or at least they rarely (if ever) happen to me. Objectively, you really can't argue that OSX is more stable than Windows. When is the last time you've seen a Mac crash right after start-up? I get the blue screen of death at work right after hitting the power button probably once every month or so. A lot of PC owners even admit that OSX is more stable, but not as ideal for what they're using it for, can't afford the price, etc.

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Originally posted by srussell0018 I don't think anyone was saying that either one were not PCs? The only thing I said was that Macs have Unix-based OS's and Windows platforms do not. As I said before, my company uses almost exclusively PCs and I still prefer Macs at home. Either way, somebody's claims on a web forum shouldn't sway your decision. The only thing I can say is that you should try both and see which one you prefer. If you're used to PCs, however, it may take more than a 5 minute play around with an Apple store demo before you figure everything out, so don't give up too quickly. To the Orko, god forbid you have to google what an error means in OSX. The kinds of errors you're getting typically never happen when you're using a Mac for personal use, or at least they rarely (if ever) happen to me. Objectively, you really can't argue that OSX is more stable than Windows. When is the last time you've seen a Mac crash right after start-up? I get the blue screen of death at work right after hitting the power button probably once every month or so. A lot of PC owners even admit that OSX is more stable, but not as ideal for what they're using it for, can't afford the price, etc.

Reminds me of Stephen Colbert's "whatever just happened is the only thing that is happening."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/...r_n_458075.html

I cannot wait for my tablet to come in. I just hope this pre-order mess gets sorted out, and I have it soon. Been waiting sooooooooo long!

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Originally posted by Dr. Z Reminds me of Steven Colbert's "whatever just happened is the only thing that is happening." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/...r_n_458075.html

I'm guessing comparisons aren't your strong suit then? Me using personal experience reminds you of Fox news disproving a widely accepted scientific theory because of a snowstorm?

It sounds like you're the type to hear what you want to hear

Like I've said many times, I use both PC and Mac, and I use PC far more because that's exclusively what I use at work. I also run Windows and OSX on my home computer, and I prefer OSX because it's a more stable operating system.

Does that remind you of some Hitler speech sometime in history? Perhaps the Columbine shooting?
*Hint* argument ad hominem is a logical fallacy

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