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Originally posted by nefardec so you don't think caricatures are funny? granted, they were mean spirited, but at least they weren't dehumanizing for the most part until the last one. that was a classically racist joke made into a picture, not a caricature of an individual.

I didn't find this joke funny, so I don't have to assuage any guilt with bullshit convoluted escape clauses. I don't think this joke perpetuates institutionalised racism any more than it perpetuates institutionalised discrimination against people who don't fit a certain idea of physical attractiveness. I think in real, practical terms, a personal insult against an individual is more emotionally damaging than a generalised one against a group. I think on a dating site, accentuating a single woman's negative features is probably going to make her feel a lot shittier than making a childish joke about her skin colour.

But above all, I don't think that laughing at something means you believe in it, or agree with it. I don't even think telling a joke means you believe the content of that joke. I don't judge anyone on here for making obviously ironic comments about race, where as you're having to build some sort of special inverse periscope to see all the way down your nose at guys around here who do it. And you know perfectly well you're not going to alter shit with your whiny little comments. You do it entirely for the personal gratification.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On I have no idea what Wolf & Lamb is.

Shit scarf-haus duo who can't mix and just make and play a lot of crap re-edits of old tracks. Usually tracks originally made by black people, which presumably explains Avana's jihad against them.

I heard Wolf & Lamb are also really into doing drugs.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Usually tracks originally made by black people, which presumably explains Avana's jihad against them.

Are you saying that Avana only plays tracks that were made by white people because he doesn't want to step on darky's little, purple piggly-wigglies? Aww, that's awfully courteous.

And racist. Jeez, nef.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On Are you saying that Avana only plays tracks that were made by white people because he doesn't want to step on darky's little, purple piggly-wigglies? Aww, that's awfully courteous.

In all fairness, re-editing old disco tracks and releasing them under your own name while paying zero royalties to the poor bastards who actually wrote those parts is a Dick Move. But the fact it's done by white middle class guys with beards towards poor black guys from NYC is what really tips Avana over into white-guilt apoplexy.

Fuck Ivano. and fuck wasting money on surgery. You should become less of a man by sticking a cherry bomb in your pisshole lighting the wick and then shoving your dick in a glass jar. I hope your kind is not only oppressed but also sold into the slave trade made into sex slaves and sold to native indians to siphon gas for them for their friday night pow wows where you will be speared and fucked and your kind slowly go extinct like wild buffalo

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On Racial communities do not need your valiance nor your voice undermining their autonomy, especially since you're still limiting yourself to 'sides'.

This.

While I'm happy to be racist and insensitive most of the time (it's just too fun), I think no less of any particular race. The general American method for handling racism seems unbelievably ham-fisted and condescending to my ears. It's hard for me to put myself in the position of a minority, but I'm pretty sure I'd be pissed off if someone was constantly trying to defend me in the manner Avana, the media and other politically correct outlets do.

The ironic thing is, I find these kind of defensive tactics more racist than any of the average jokes. It implies that, firstly, a person is above being made fun of. If everyone is truly equal, then everyone should be equally liable to attack - whether in a fun or genuinely derogatory manner. Secondly, it also implies that said minority is incapable of defending themselves, and that they need to be babied around. That it itself is far more offensive than any picture of black skin on a black background.

http://centralny.ynn.com/content/al...-to-end-racism/

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SYRACUSE, N.Y. -- Some colorful ducks made their annual appearance at Syracuse's Inner Harbor Saturday. The ninth annual Duck Race to End Racism kicked off at noon. The day included three different duck races, one for corporate sponsors, one for third grade students and one for community members. Community Wide Dialogue, a program of InterFaith Works, organizes the event. They want to keep the community from "ducking" the issue of racism. "We want a day when we can show the community what it will be like when the world has ended racism. If you look around this day there are people here from all over the world, with different skin colors, working together, playing together," said Beth Broadway, InterFaith Works CNY Executive Director.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I think in real, practical terms, a personal insult against an individual is more emotionally damaging than a generalised one against a group.

well that would explain why you are so very kind to me.

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Originally posted by Vivid Boy Fuck Ivano. and fuck wasting money on surgery. You should become less of a man by sticking a cherry bomb in your pisshole lighting the wick and then shoving your dick in a glass jar. I hope your kind is not only oppressed but also sold into the slave trade made into sex slaves and sold to native indians to siphon gas for them for their friday night pow wows where you will be speared and fucked and your kind slowly go extinct like wild buffalo

it's ok, if i lived with my parents i would feel the same way.


hang in there, big boy.

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Originally posted by nefardec well that would explain why you are so very kind to me.

I have the guts to be open about it.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I have the guts to be open about it.

what good are guts when you don't have a life?

Ooh bringing out the personal insults, now. Good thing Jack's not black or you'd be racist!

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I really hope there was some sort of ironic or oblique point to such a playground-level retort.

Why is it okay to make fun of people with large foreheads and not okay to make fun of people with black skin?

If you (nerfadec) use skin color as the defining factor for identity or to group people over any other physical trait than you are more racist than the person who made the drawings.

It's sort of like that Curb your enthusiasm when Larry David claims he was discriminated against for being Bald. As bald people too are a group.

Same applies with Gingers - no one cares about them.

If you only take offense to slurs regarding skin color than you are the one perpetuating the segregation.

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Originally posted by nefardec it's shitty to make fun of people any time. but people with big foreheads were never enslaved or denied civil rights.

My apologies, I should have read the entire thread before posting as you answered my above question previously.

But I don't buy it.

I think if you sympathize with the current generation of Blacks because of the enslavery of their ancestors - then by the same logic you should condemn the current generation of Germans because of the assaults inflicted by their ancestors.

The point is - the people today are not the same people of the past.

And before I get misunderstood - I have nothing against Germans.

I'm with you, man. Fuckin' Germans.

And Now for Something Completely Different

Are black comedians that base their whole act on racial humour racist?

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Originally posted by Meat187

that's the best one of those I've seen. nothing matches the anticipation in the eyes.

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Originally posted by infiniteJEST Been a while since I saw Coneheads but wasn't there like a gladiator ring thing? That's a lot worse dude.

NARFLE THE GARTHOK!

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Originally posted by nefardec postscript - my girlfriend wants it to be known that she no longer attends wolf and lamb parties.

Well yeah, they live in Miami now.

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Originally posted by nefardec because i side with the palestinians

Is this statement supposed to be ironic?

He said "Jews", not "Israelis".

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J In all fairness, re-editing old disco tracks and releasing them under your own name while paying zero royalties to the poor bastards who actually wrote those parts is a Dick Move. But the fact it's done by white middle class guys with beards towards poor black guys from NYC is what really tips Avana over into white-guilt apoplexy.

whoah whoah slow down buddy!

You do know what house music is right?

right?

Not everyone can be PRETTY, AVANA. Or should we all just go hack our faces off and sew something else on there???

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