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Posted by Vivid Boy on Jun-14-2011 18:13:

The truth is even the most avid baseball fan has no clue what's going on. If a fan was able to read team signals then the other team would be able to read signals thus making signals totally irrevelant to the game. All we have is stats and unless you're a boring sorta stats guy you'll find baseball boring has hell. How often do you witness a very athletic play happen in a 3 hour game? Maybe 3 times.
I admit there's a lot going on in game but the fans have no clue what it actually is.

The lack of athleticism is the reason player can play 162 games or why they can play a double header or why pro athletes can take up baseball as a second sport with limited worries of getting injured.


Posted by Taipan on Jun-14-2011 18:17:

People always say football is boring cause there are not enough goals but thats bullshit. Sure there are less goals but that makes them that much more awesome.

Watching the basketball playoffs this season, more times than not the entire game came down to the last 10 seconds or many times even the last fuckin shot! To me that's boring cause you never really have to start watching the game till the last 3-4 minutes. Football keeps you watching from beginning to end because the game can be won or lost at any point during the match with a red card, penalty or just 1 or 2 goals in a 5 minute span.


Posted by srussell0018 on Jun-14-2011 18:17:

Hitting a 95+ mph fastball, all the while knowing that the pitcher can throw an 85mph changeup, or an 86mph curve that breaks over a foot, is pretty much the hardest thing to do in any sport.


Posted by Taipan on Jun-14-2011 18:22:

quote:
Originally posted by srussell0018
Hitting a 95+ mph fastball, all the while knowing that the pitcher can throw an 85mph changeup, or an 86mph curve that breaks over a foot, is pretty much the hardest thing to do in any sport.


Yea, I'm sure baseball has merit but the main objection most people have with the sport is it doesn't require a whole lot of athleticism. You said baseball is strategic which is great but so is chess. Sports are supposed to be physical.


Posted by Vivid Boy on Jun-14-2011 18:24:

You're talking 2 positions in a game that has how many? Even I can hit a 90 mph baseball thrown down the middle. I'm as amateur as it gets you give me 9 years of practicing on curve balls change ups screwbals and ill be hitting those too


Posted by srussell0018 on Jun-14-2011 18:27:

I guess, but if you are overweight but can throw a ball 98mph, or are an overweight catcher or first baseman who can hit 400ft home runs, I would argue that you're not unathletic. The best hitter of all time was a fat alcoholic who smoked. He was also a great pitcher as well.

You don't see practices. There's endless amounts of running, weight training, batting practice, long tossing, etc. that makes players able to perform at a high level. Overweight players never make it to the majors unless they're exceptionally gifted in one facet of the game (pitching, hitting, catching, etc.).


Just because there are some overweight players (and they're probably 98% pitchers) doesn't mean that anyone who is unathletic can still excel at baseball. In fact, some of the most athletic players who I've seen haven't been very good at baseball.

Case in point:


This guy has barely stayed in the league. He's not skilled, he's just athletic. That's the point I'm trying to make. It takes more than being a mindless animal (with the exception of quarterbacks) like in the NFL to succeed at baseball.


Posted by Vivid Boy on Jun-14-2011 18:38:

Those mindless animals can run close to 10 seconds in a 100m and weigh over 300 pounds. They can hurdle you and have the footing of a mountain goat and have the hand eye coordination of a surgeon.


Ps just because you have muscle does not make you athletic. Stop posting homosexual pictures I'm at the library in public here.


Posted by psymon.d on Jun-14-2011 19:05:

yeah, being conventionally 'ripped' or muscly means very little in terms of athletic ability (taken in before any 'skill' is in the picture). Andy Schleck is 100x the athlete that guy or anyone like that will ever be, and may see him as 'skinny' if you didn't know about cycling fitness/slow twitch muscles




Posted by srussell0018 on Jun-14-2011 19:08:

But slow twitch muscles are boring (but still impressive). Regardless, I'm more impressed by someone who can throw a ball 95+ mph 60.5 feet into a window only a couple inches wide, than someone who can ride a bike for a long time.


Posted by djsaekone on Jun-14-2011 19:27:

redskins vs. cowboys


Posted by Scoops on Jun-14-2011 19:49:

quote:
Originally posted by djsaekone
redskins vs. cowboys



hahahahah not anymore...

its not even relevant anymore


Posted by bas on Jun-14-2011 19:51:

quote:
Originally posted by srussell0018
Dude just stfu, your act is tired.

No it's not

Greatest modern soccer rivalry:

Liverpool vs winning the premier league. Some day, some day!


Posted by LAdazeNYnights on Jun-14-2011 20:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Vivid Boy
Stop posting homosexual pictures I'm at the library in public here.



Posted by srussell0018 on Jun-14-2011 20:09:

Untrue. I'm sure Vivid hasn't been in a library since grade school.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jun-14-2011 22:38:

quote:
Originally posted by srussell0018
It's a lot more interesting than a bunch of fags in short shorts running around chasing other fags in short shorts with a ball.


Baseball is one of the most boring team sports ever invented. Only challenged by cricket for the ultimate crown of boredom.


Posted by srussell0018 on Jun-14-2011 22:45:

quote:
Originally posted by srussell0018
It's a lot more interesting than a bunch of fags in short shorts running around chasing other fags in short shorts with a ball.


Stop lying to yourselves and call it rugby.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jun-14-2011 22:51:

quote:
Originally posted by srussell0018
Stop lying to yourselves and call it rugby.


aussie rules is nothing like rugby you fucking dickhead.


Posted by Lira on Jun-14-2011 23:07:

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True that. Despite the dubious nature of the physical contacts in both sports, at least in Aussie footie you earn points if you score a behind!


All my knowledge about Australian rules football comes from the Wikipedia article I just skimmed over. I don't even know if there's any similar gayness involved... is there?


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jun-14-2011 23:18:

Re: 1]

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
True that. Despite the dubious nature of the physical contacts in both sports, at least in Aussie footie you earn points if you score a behind!


All my knowledge about Australian rules football comes from the Wikipedia article I just skimmed over. I don't even know if there's any similar gayness involved... is there?


What do you mean by dubious nature of the physical contact? AFL is fucking hard. Been at least 4 KOs this year already!


Posted by Lira on Jun-14-2011 23:26:

The poetic lack of consent in the Koala kingdom

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
What do you mean by dubious nature of the physical contact? AFL is fucking hard. Been at least 4 KOs this year already!

Which is the sports version of a date rape!

I rest my case


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jun-14-2011 23:31:

That�s not dubious, that�s awesome!


Posted by Lira on Jun-14-2011 23:39:

Oh, wait, I just noticed I made a cross-linguistic brainfart. By dubious I meant "potentially gay", not "apparently non-existent".

My bad.


Posted by Zyklon_Jay on Jun-14-2011 23:44:

quote:
Originally posted by srussell0018
Hitting a 95+ mph fastball, all the while knowing that the pitcher can throw an 85mph changeup, or an 86mph curve that breaks over a foot, is pretty much the hardest thing to do in any sport.


try stopping a 100 mile an hour slap shot you can't see through traffic, and after covering the rebound getting plowed over by a few large men trying to push you into a net all while getting a few hard smacks with a composite stick on the unprotected part of your hand to get you to release the puck.

or

try out running a saftey for 30 yards in double coverage and stealing a pass that either 3 of the people in that part of the field could grab (all while playing smartly as to not get concussed by a blind side hit while jumping in the air...note to self i didn't play smartly)

or

playing SF and trying to box out a player that is way bigger than you to get an offensive rebound while eating their elbows to your head.

or

playing sweeper and having the need for impeccable cardio to cover the most ground on the field for 90+ minutes (well not if you get subbed out) all while destroying your knees from abuse and shady challenges.

These are all sports i played (baseball just for fun, not competitive.) Yeah standing there and swinging at something is so much harder and requires so much endurance and skill :sarcasm:. Yes it is impressive to hit 90+ miles an hour pitches, I will never argue that...the reality though is that any hockey player with a good set of hands could do it to, in fact they practice deflecting a smaller object with a thinner stick moving just as fast daily.

Basball players have skill, so do chess players...as far as athleticism goes, they can't even compete with the fake WWE guys....its the simple truth.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jun-14-2011 23:49:

I don�t care how much skill something takes necessarily (ie NFL is awesome but it doesn�t take too much skill to be a fat fuck on the defensive line) but baseball is just fucking boring to watch. Absolute snoozeville.


Posted by Vivid Boy on Jun-14-2011 23:50:

Athleticism!!!!


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