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hahaha I think I know a little bit about politics...

LOL at "Clueless soundbite regurgitation"

I think what we really need is more parties.

You can take that to mean whatever you want it to.

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Originally posted by DJRYAN� hahaha I think I know a little bit about politics...

Present your thesis.

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Originally posted by Sushipunk LOL at "Clueless soundbite regurgitation"

I kinda LOL'd at that one too..

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Originally posted by LAdazeNYnights as funny as your comment is- he does always post in the cor, except for when he's banned.

the point ->













































you

^i'm not entirely sure what you're saying. i have an idea. i guess that's the point here.

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Originally posted by srussell0018 Present your thesis.

Well I'm immensly dissapointed in our governments attempts to withdraw monies from students trying to obtain further education. The system in its current form includes encumbrences that prevent students from satisfying their educational requirements by the current and outdated "credit" and "default" system. Institutions need to look at a way for older students to obtain additional financing to either enter trade schools or regular universities. The work environment that currently exists no longer allows for moderatley educated individuals. We also need to promote additional reform in primary and secondary education systems. State and Federal monies need to be more prominent in our nations school systems. Cutting funds is not going to help the next few generations.

Additionally, and as I proposed earlier, we need to stop handing out paychecks to people that are qualified to work, but who choose not to. That single "intitlement" is bankrupting our country. Its not right for someone to sit at home and watch their soaps, get high, use food stamps to go buy filet mignon and not have to do a single thing for it. So, as I suggested, we should mandatory drugtest, at the reciepents expense, in order to receive intitlements. Anyone's test results that turn up positive would be suspended from whatever programs they're participating in.

Also, and probably the most important. We need to go back through our idealogy of blank check spending. Most departments operating within our state and federal governments spend enormeous amounts of money on simple things that ordinary consumers get at more reasonable cost. I think its been told before of a $1k toilet seat- really?

We also need to eliminate (even at the cost of job loss) outdated or unsustainable departments. These departments or organizations that don't pay for themselves should be eliminated. Corporations cutback all the time. The government opperates in reverse, and just creates more money. With the advent of such significant technologies, these individuals, to whom are perceived as qualified, could most likely obtain jobs in the private sector, thus making comparable monies, and spurring economic growth w/ their additional taxes and work place contributions, e.g.: non subsidized healthcare versus subsidized and other contributions.

When we couple these ideas into actions, most likely the result will be a slight double dip in our current recession but a more stable and sustainable long term nation.

Otherwise, I really don't think we're too far off from a civil war from extreme left wingers and conservative right wingers trying to protect the viability of our nation. Right now we're screwed.

what i'm really trying to say, avana, is let's partake in the ritual consumption of alcohol sometime so as to break the ice and become cordial.
whenever you post about parties in bk or nyc i think "fuck. i wish i had heard about that. sounds so awesome"
i go to marcel dettmann in month. idk what else in between. okay.

I'll let Eddie take this one.

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Originally posted by DJRYAN� That single "intitlement"

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Originally posted by DJRYAN� enormeous amounts of money

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Originally posted by DJRYAN� moderatley educated individuals.

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Originally posted by LAdazeNYnights what i'm really trying to say, avana, is let's partake in the ritual consumption of alcohol sometime so as to break the ice and become cordial. whenever you post about parties in bk or nyc i think "fuck. i wish i had heard about that. sounds so awesome" i go to marcel dettmann in month. idk what else in between. okay.

i was talking about your response to the srussell statement you quoted, 'djryan doesnt usually post in the cor but when he does the idiocy is epic'

the point is not how often he posts in the cor, but rather that the idiocy invariably remains epic.


wait... did you just ask me out?

AW NEFARDEC LIKED MY POST

YOU'RE DODGING THE ISSUE AT HAND.

russell can come too. i'll make peace between you two.

I LIKE NEFARDEC SHE JUST DOESN'T LIKE PEOPLE WHO DISAGREE WITH HER

DON'T QUOTE THAT, I DON'T WANT HER TO KNOW

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Originally posted by The17sss No new taxes in the past 3 years? Really? LOL! I'll forgive the class warfare rhetoric because I know you don't know any better or any different. If companies are not hiring now, and you think levying additional taxes and regulations will spur them in the direction of growth, you're beyond help. Companies are not hiring because the climate of fear and uncertainty this inexperienced administration has put on businesses. It's as simple as that. They have no idea what's coming down the pike next week, next month, next year, etc. so they feel it's better to sit on the sidelines till the storm passes.

Regulation of the markets are exactly what's needed. Not necessarily to take down the deficit, but to ensure that another recession does not happen. Already the TBTF banks are up to their old games bringing back sub-prime mortgages. I don't know how you can honestly believe that deregulation of the financial markets will create more jobs when recent history has shown that unchecked greed and corruption only ends up putting the entire system in jeopardy.

I don't care if you do think I'm some little peon who doesn't know any better, the rich should pay their fair share. I don't think I need to remind you of the article that came out a few months ago where GE paid NOTHING in taxes for fiscal year 2010. If they don't then the deficit will never be fixed. Even if you don't tax them, they won't be creating any new jobs anyways for exactly what you just said, so fuck it, tax the shit out of them. Spending cuts alone isn't going to fix this economy. Look what's already happening to the FAA:

http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/07/22/fa....html?hpt=hp_t2

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Almost 4,000 Federal Aviation Administration workers are facing furloughs after Congress adjourned Friday without passing a measure to reauthorize the agency's funding, according to the Transportation Department. A $2.5 billion program providing grants for airport construction projects also will shut down, and thousands of construction jobs could be jeopardized. In a news release, Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood said he was disappointed that lawmakers did not pass a reauthorization and that funding was set to run out at midnight Friday. "Because of their inaction, states and airports won't be able to work on their construction projects, and too many people will have to go without a paycheck," he said. "This is no way to run the best aviation system in the world." The release goes on to say, "The safety of the flying public will not be compromised." Air traffic controllers will remain on the job, but the furloughs will affect many FAA engineers, scientists, computer specialists, community planners and others. According to the Department of Transportation, FAA workers could be furloughed in 35 states, Washington, D.C., and Puerto Rico.

Your Republican masters promised to create jobs in 2010. So far, all they've been doing is the exact opposite.

I'm sorry... Additional regulation is not what's needed. In fact, that's what's hurting small businesses. They can no longer be competitive in a global market because of all the regulation. If the government were to lessen regulation than small businesses could hire more people. Its government oversight that has shifted business to lower levels.

Allow me to share with you that the governement now oversees, telecommunications, transportation, utilities, food and drugs, housing, health care, small and big business.

That's not what our founding fathers wanted. But what's happened is that when there's been trouble in certain industries there was nowhere else to turn so the government intervened.

We're supposed to be a governement by the people for the people.

That's not what's happening.

Viva Le Revolution!!

^
You're a fucking idiot. Try reading up on Alan Greenspan and Larry Summers sometime.

Greenspan was/is a genius

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Originally posted by DJRYAN� Greenspan was/is a genius

Shame his intelligence had to have been balanced out with yours to keep the universe level.

DJ RYAN FOR PRESIDENT!

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Originally posted by stren DJ RYAN FOR PRESIDENT!

Only if Palin is vice.

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