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Posted by richwms on Aug-20-2002 18:29:

The only reason he says all that shit about his wife and his mum and stuff is to get popular, its different so ppl think "this is good". He's a money making "rapper" some of his songs are cool, i must addmit.

Greetings

Rich


Posted by mndeg on Nov-20-2002 04:32:

low brow music makes baby jesus cry


Posted by trancedfarmer on Nov-20-2002 04:36:

Eminem sucks! FLAME THE BASTARD! heheh


Posted by FrOstY on Nov-20-2002 04:57:

creative genious IMO. pretty much the only rap i'll listen to anymore


Posted by Killabee on Nov-20-2002 05:01:

I think he has a pretty disturbing voice


Posted by raver31 on Nov-20-2002 05:01:

i dont care what he writes. the media makes him look so fuckin controversial. and that is really gay. he just writes what he feels and is damn fuckin good at it. negros from the zulu nation just cant cope with the fact that hes on top now. so jelous


Posted by Fir3start3r on Nov-20-2002 05:27:

quote:
Originally posted by FrOstY
creative genious IMO. pretty much the only rap i'll listen to anymore


Likewise.
I'm not much for today's rap scene and after seening '8 Mile' I have a different opinion about him.
I think he understands what people want to hear and hey, being controversial sells...just look at what it's done for Madonna.
It's part business and part of who he is.
It's a smart music business move being coated by the great corporate machine to punch out the bucks...
It's part of who he is because rapping is his bag, and he's good at it.

At least I can stomach his stuff...


Posted by mr. poopyhead on Nov-20-2002 06:11:

eminem found commercial success without buying in to the whole big-blingin, thug-4-life image. that alone deserves major props. everyone on the board is mad at his "nobody listens to techno" line. hahaha.... that kind of reaction is exactly what made him rich. he's a genius.

quote:
Originally posted by webmeister
Eminem is a pawn, a tool of the money-making corporations that created him.

I have no idea as to his rapping abilities or whatever as I have jackshit knowledge of these areas (rap does not interest me in the slightest....).

I feel sorry for him in a way, the way that he is forced to swear and do/say stupid things to get attention and sell albums. If the music is really that good, let it speak for itself, rather than swear and offend for itself.

Do a search, I remember a long thread titled "The Eminem Show" a few months back that had some pretty intelligent discussion in it (if u have a serious flame retardant )

Just my $0.02


eminem writes his own lyrics AND produces his own tracks. if that's what you called manufactured, then what do you call britney?? i don't know the guy personally, but i do believe that he made it to the big leagues with real talent and hard work.


Posted by musicaddict on Nov-20-2002 06:28:

my 2 cents.

ok, im pretty damn sure that most of you who hate eminem is because all you ever heard from him was all his shitty commerical songs like "slim shady" and "without me" on the radios and MTV. I hate those myself.

I Gotta admit that he got some shitty songs but he also got a lot of SERIOUS REAL LIFE SHIT THAT HE RAPPED ABOUT.

I.E: Sing for the Moment, Hailie's song, Cleanin' out my closet, stan.
etc.

So after yall heard those songs, u tell yourself "wtf is this? some kinda joke" well i bet 90% of you that hate eminem dont know jack shit about him all u know is that he raps about killing his wife or whatever.

I do agree that he got some issues but on the other hand I think this guy is one of a kind MC. He got powerful lyrical skills that stands out of the rest of the crowd.

His skills improved vastly in his new album "the eminem show". Songs like Hailie's song is some damn serious stuff. I respect the guy just for that one song on that album but he got a few others on that album that really make sense.

I'd choose eminem all those heavy metal bullshit (i.e slipknot) and that fuckin fagget marilyn manson.

I'd choose over all those cheezy cant rap artists like p diddy.

*btw, p diddy: u cant rap brotha.

**too bad eminem is working with DRE . Dre used to be cool. But things changes.

so in conclusion: Eminem for sure got some real skills but also got some serious stupid issues to deal with. I'm for him though coz of the real shit that he raps about not his bullshit controversial (i.e hating techno and disco)


Posted by LuckE on Nov-20-2002 06:35:

I admire his skill as an MC, I also admire his ability to tell it like it is... look at "The Way I Am" off of the Marshall Mathers LP


quote:

...
but at least have the decency in you
to leave me alone, when you freaks see me out
in the streets when I'm eatin or feedin my daughter
to not come and speak to me (speak to me)..
I don't know you and no,
I don't owe you a mo-therfuck-in thing
I'm not Mr. N'Sync, I'm not what your friends think
I'm not Mr. Friendly, I can be a prick
if you tempt me my tank is on empty (is on empty)..
No patience is in me and if you offend me
I'm liftin you 10 feet (liftin you 10 feet).. in the air
I don't care who is there and who saw me destroy you
Go call you a lawyer, file you a lawsuit
I'll smile in the courtroom and buy you a wardrobe
I'm tired of all you (of all you)..
I don't mean to be mean but that's all I can be is just me


He's saying what most artists are too weak to say, he just wants to make music, he doesn't want that kind of fame.

Now I agree he could tone it down a bit, but then it wouldn't have the same effect.

thats just what i think...


Posted by neovalkyr on Nov-20-2002 07:11:

i think his songs like "without me" are total commercial crap, what's the point of that stupid song?


Posted by musicaddict on Nov-20-2002 07:14:

quote:
Originally posted by neovalkyr
i think his songs like "without me" are total commercial crap, what's the point of that stupid song?

i second that. Don't forget "the real slim shady".


Posted by DJDigDug on Nov-20-2002 07:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Sand Leaper
Simply put:

Eminem is a talented rapper that can write good lyrics if he wants to.(just check out "White America".You have to admit that he's right about a lot of things that he's saying here.)The problem is that he cares too much about being a total asshole and making money,rather than making good music.


is this not the goal of modern hip hop???

K i think Eminem is pretty poor as a rapper. Most i get out of him is a chuckle. I used to be into rap before i got into electronic music and there is much better more talented less obscene rappers out there. I think Eminem is the Perfect representation of american pop. A guy who has more money than he knows what to do with pretending to be white trash for show running around grabbing his nuts swearing making a killing off music which took no talent to make. I could freestyle as well as he raps it aint hard to rap when you drop the "F" word every 3 words. As for his lyrics being about his life most of that is shit, it's his show buiseness facade, he never murdered his babys momma or any of that shit. I think the most hilarious part of it all is he sits bitching about how he has so many fans and they love him for it. he says shit like no i wont sign your autograph call me an asshole im glad. yadda yadda. Is that how to appeal to americans, tell them to fuck off? Seems brittish people do that plenty why dont we buy stuff from them more often?? well thats my two cents haha EminEm suxors. And his beats are shite compared to the underground rappers as well as his message, in Hip Hop underground is much better it still has the soul....


Posted by escee on Nov-20-2002 07:37:

i dont like his music, but his money making ability is good


Posted by VaNFeCto on Nov-20-2002 08:31:

All these bias views from people who prolly have the slightest interest in rap, not that theres nething wrong with that, to each his own. Emenim is the best lyricist to grace the hip hop world, at this point in time, the only reason most of u are dissing the man is because he said that comment about techno, other than that u have no clue about wat ure talking about. All these attacks on Emenim's character and hes a tool of the govt, and a hypocrite, WTF ARE U talking about that makes no sense wat so ever. I f nething he opposes the govt., i mean if u KNEW wat u were talking about u would know that the govt. and Emenim are bitter adversaries. So in short becasue there are more important threads ABOUT TRANCE, that need to be answered i will end this with saying, u all should get more info before u start to bash someone, i mean lest do some educated bashing for godsakes, by the way NO ONE LISTENS TO TECHNO!!!!!








OMG PLEASE FORGIVE ME, I LOVE TECHNO I JUS NEEDED A CLEVER WAY TO END MY RANT, IM SORRY I WILL NEVER DEFACE THE PAGES OF TA WITH SUCH A BLASPHEMOUS COMMENT AGAIN ONCE AGAIN TO EVERYONE I APOLOGIZE FOR THE LAST COMMMENT, I AND IM SURE U TO DO IN FACT LISTEN TO TECHNO.


Posted by Cyberwoo on Nov-20-2002 10:01:

quote:
Eminem is a pawn, a tool of the money-making corporations that created him.


I agree. I dont feel sorry for him though. Nobody is forcing him to do anything. I also can't stand any group or individual who gets successful off of offending others or how higb their shock value is. It gisgusts me.


Posted by Vestan_Pance on Nov-20-2002 10:06:

I think he's got a unique talent. However, his single releases are pretty dire, commercial efforts.

When he came on the scene he was something different (a white rapper). The problem is he hasnt changed very much since then. How many songs can you write about hating your mom & wife, loving your daughter and being Slim Shady??

The guy needs some fresh ideas for his next album.

Also his attitude sucks. I hate it when famous people think they need to have this aura of unapproachability and act like a complete arsehole in interviews etc. Accept your fame and respect the people who put you there (a bit hypocritical considering the lyrics in Stan!)


Posted by AntronVee on Nov-20-2002 13:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Vestan_Pance
The problem is he hasnt changed very much since then. How many songs can you write about hating your mom & wife, loving your daughter and being Slim Shady??

The guy needs some fresh ideas for his next album.


i have a huuuuuuuge disliking for eminem. i mean seriously, how the hell is he gonna rap about the same old crap every single lame album. right now he is over played, now i CAN NOT wait till he is played out!!!! he raps and wines about his childhood as if he's the only one in the world who has gone through that! i can't stand his attitude one bit.


Posted by [N]�k|��[Z] on Nov-20-2002 14:39:

well, i didnt bother reading anyones replies.... but....

i think eminem is an absolute genius, you can call him what you want, but this guys has balls... talent.....and his tunes r all awesome.

the guy has so much talent its untrue, all of his tracks r great, funny, and tell a meaningful story.

love him or hate him.. i think hes werth every penny he;s earnt! respesct to the one like slim shady, you rool man


Posted by vandit_freak on Nov-20-2002 14:51:

poor music for poor people...


Posted by [N]�k|��[Z] on Nov-20-2002 16:58:

quote:
Originally posted by vandit_freak
poor music for poor people...


poor reply, from someone with a piss poor attitude


Posted by Fresh on Nov-20-2002 16:59:

quote:
Originally posted by vandit_freak
poor music for poor people...


lol

anyway as for eminem.. i think hes a twat. C'mon, he raps about other stars in his songs to get attention (even tho the star he would talk shit and rap about hadnt even done anything!) I mean c'mon, all that business with moby? and the refrences to techno? eesh

i dont think moby was even that aware of eminem before that shit 'without me' song..

and also i saw an article in a magazine with a quote from eminem about sharing his songs over the internet.

it was somthing along the lines of "if i meet that mother****** who put my album on the internet i will rip his throat out"

lol it makes me laugh because he acts like he is some elite gangster


Posted by vandit_freak on Nov-20-2002 17:03:

I'm open-minded and I do not have anything against hip hop but eminem just disses his mom and other people in a very primitive way...to me eminem's style is very poor.


Posted by Bullet on Nov-20-2002 18:05:

I like him u guys just don't like him, cos u don't like hip-hop, eh ? well, I don't like that stuff 2 normally, like D12 or Snoop Dog, but Eminem is pretty cool IMO. Yeah u can say what u want, hate him. Go ahead. Just think about it and say "hey, I hate him". Go to your friends and say "hey guys, let's just hate eminem, he's a cock sucker"
"man, I hate him". lol, yeah just do it. But what I like, is his thinking and appearance. He is NOT a "fuckin' cool ghetto pimp". He has serious songs (i.e. Stan or White America) and funny/crazy songs (i.e. my name is, without me). I like both styles. He just doesn't bring big breasted, nice assed girls in his music-videos, or puts his head between to chicks' asses. No! I don't know if anyone understands what I mean, but I'm pretty sure, that you guys just don't like him cos: He uses bad words, dirty lyrics (yes, sick lyrics, too), crazy lyrics and lyrics that doesn't make sense. And because u don't like hip-hop of course. mywords.

- Bullet


Posted by George Kendall on Nov-20-2002 18:11:

Hes a whiny little butt plug imo

this is tranceaddict not shittyrapaddict


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