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Posted by aNYthing on Sep-25-2011 02:20:

quote:
Originally posted by CalvP
He did mention about depression though, so perhaps he's realised he hasn't been following his heart? - i can attest to the fog it brings, it envelopes you



THIS!!!! FUCKING THIS!!!! THIIIIIIIIIIIS!!! YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD, YOU!!!!

Fuck, I'm making more money in my job right now than I ever made before but my heart is not in it and I am forcing myself HAAAAAAAAAARD to work. There's nothing worse than doing something your heart and mind is not in.

Some much better people than me are OK doing whatever, as long as it pays. ME? I can't. That's why I'm on a self-destructive train now. Avoiding work, procrastinating, FUCK - EVEN HANGING OUT HERE instead of doing work I must do.

THIS. THIS. THIS.

ffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu


Posted by aNYthing on Sep-25-2011 02:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Lolo
no one here hates him. I promise. :-) And I second you when you're saying a part of the scene is a kindergarten. As far as I remember since 1996, it's always been like that. But that said...

I can name you hundreds of artists who constantly release stuff, who eventually get gigs, who have a life dedicated to music yet they've had it as hard as fabio has, as we all have. They do not care about this dj mag thing, we do not care about superstardom, we want to get recognition for our taste and our skills. No more no less. It's very frustrating not to get where you want, but that's the way of the world for thousands others. Yet, I'd like to understand how one can stop making music out of frustration because of a few morons feodalizing a scene and being selfish. I'm open for a direct discussion with fabio if he could make some time and come explain here. I'm sure he has good reasons too.


Listen, I am not supposed to talk about this. But oh well...

I used to work for someone until recently. I kept working for that person for 2 months while he shut my ftp access, the payments and communication with me all behind my back and without notice. After 2 years and 4 months of loyal work... I got to work for nothing and we got to that point I couldn't even pay the doctors to take care of my back then 3 months old daughter who's apparently suffering from a specific disease (CF but still not sure) she'll never recover from, yet I was still hoping that the guy would get back to me!! That's how people treat you inside the music business today. No mercy, no warnings, no friendship.

Does it mean we have to act that way? surely not. That means we just need to shut up, keep that anger for later, and work work work until we can finally break those morons in pieces. In my case this is exactly what is going to happen. There's only one way up, that's the positive one. The bigger the harm, the stronger the evolution.

That's one simple guy talking here, who's been through so much crap in the last 3 months, you can't imagine, but who lives for one thing, a smile on the face of his 3 ladies, and a prayer for his latest one who's suffering in silence.


Lolo, my heart goes out to you, I either got something in my eye or it's dusty in here... I'm not a religious person, so I can't say "you and your family, esp. little one is in my prayers", but definitely in my most sincere and kind wishes and thoughts.

I know you're too humble but I'm sure plenty of people would help if you just nod, myself included. Is there anything we (or I) can do? Just say a word/PM if you'd rather not say it out in open.


Posted by cryophonik on Sep-25-2011 03:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Sukhavati
Anyone who's been in Fabio's shoes also knows there's a difference between a hobby, a paycheck and a passion. If it's a passion then you know it's worth pursuing, both good and bad.


That's a good point, but I think it's worth adding that pursuing your passion does not necessarily mean that it needs to be your career. In my case, I was well into my 4th year as a music major several decades ago when I finally opened my eyes and realized that, as much as I loved music, it wasn't what I wanted to be doing when I'm in my 40s and 50s. So, I took a few years to just work as a musician doing live and session gigs, and spent that time deciding what I really wanted to do. I was making good money and continued to work when I finally went back to school. I got a BS/MS in the sciences and promptly gave up working as a musician after finishing my grad degree and getting a new job. I wasn't fed up with the industry or the competition, nor did I lose the passion for music, although I did admittedly start to get a little burned out by the constant gigs and was definitely ready for a career/lifestyle change.

Now, in my 40s with a family and very successful career, I look back and realize that it was among the 5 smartest things I've done in my life. I'm quite certain that, had I continued along the music career path, I would have lost the passion for it a long time ago, particularly considering how difficult it has become to be successful in the music industry over the past 10-15 years. And the passion is still there because I can make music on my time and terms, and making music is now one of my main releases of stress that comes from my real job.


Posted by aNYthing on Sep-25-2011 03:46:

I'm always so surprised.... Music has got to be one of the most enjoyable yet hardest, most time-consuming and LEAST financially rewarding activities known to mankind.

I find it fascinating that we as species are constantly surrounded by it, yet so few enjoy the financial reward of this insanely complex activity. I know we're venturing waaaaaaaaaaay off topic, but it really is puzzling how is that possible.


Posted by cryophonik on Sep-25-2011 03:51:

Supply is overtaking demand and fewer people are willing to pay for it.


Posted by Sukhavati on Sep-25-2011 05:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler

(although many of you will find this hard to believe at the moment).


You can say that again.


Posted by Sukhavati on Sep-25-2011 05:20:

quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
That's a good point, but I think it's worth adding that pursuing your passion does not necessarily mean that it needs to be your career. In my case, I was well into my 4th year as a music major several decades ago when I finally opened my eyes and realized that, as much as I loved music, it wasn't what I wanted to be doing when I'm in my 40s and 50s. So, I took a few years to just work as a musician doing live and session gigs, and spent that time deciding what I really wanted to do. I was making good money and continued to work when I finally went back to school. I got a BS/MS in the sciences and promptly gave up working as a musician after finishing my grad degree and getting a new job. I wasn't fed up with the industry or the competition, nor did I lose the passion for music, although I did admittedly start to get a little burned out by the constant gigs and was definitely ready for a career/lifestyle change.

Now, in my 40s with a family and very successful career, I look back and realize that it was among the 5 smartest things I've done in my life. I'm quite certain that, had I continued along the music career path, I would have lost the passion for it a long time ago, particularly considering how difficult it has become to be successful in the music industry over the past 10-15 years. And the passion is still there because I can make music on my time and terms, and making music is now one of my main releases of stress that comes from my real job.


I agree 100%. I guess that was the distinction I was trying to make between a passion and a paycheck. And I've been there too. I used to draw every day, but it took only one semester of art school for me to absolutely despise it and anything else to do with fine art. Thankfully, I didn't stay in that place long.

I will say the way I've found around it all is to view everything in a creative spirit. When one thing starts to get to you, you've always got somewhere else to place your efforts. It also works for any creative block to keep from getting stuck in a rut.


Posted by Swamper on Dec-12-2011 18:39:

quote:
Originally posted by aNYthing
I'm always so surprised.... Music has got to be one of the most enjoyable yet hardest, most time-consuming and LEAST financially rewarding activities known to mankind.

I find it fascinating that we as species are constantly surrounded by it, yet so few enjoy the financial reward of this insanely complex activity. I know we're venturing waaaaaaaaaaay off topic, but it really is puzzling how is that possible.


Just landed on this thread and it was a good read - worthy of a bump


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