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Well, this should get interesting

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Originally posted by Adam420 psychological/sociological point of view.

... physiological is more appropriate... I think...

No definitely psychological. Homosexuality is a mental disorder. It was in the DSM guys.

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Originally posted by DJRYAN� That's what's wrong with the world.

and you constantly keep trying to change the world via the c0r.


whatever dude, good luck

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Originally posted by srussell0018 No definitely psychological. Homosexuality is a mental disorder. It was in the DSM guys.

Yea I disagree. I think there's the same attraction for the same sex as I would have for the opposite sex. That's not psychological its physiological.

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Although I do believe environment influences the creation of that physiological need which I suppose blurs the lines between the two.

I think that penises which are attracted to other penises suffer from a mental disorder, and the penises should be treated as such.

[Assuming he is not trolling...]

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Originally posted by Adam420 Man it must really suck to be gay when you're 13 years old. I still don't get how the whole gay thing works, tbh, from a mental/physical point of view, let alone when you're that age. That kid must be really really confused. I blame society mostly, not necessarily for treating him the way it has but for actually creating an environment where a 13 year old kid can actually be led to become gay. Nonetheless, he should be old enough to realize that being gay, especially at his age, is an incredibly unnatural thing, and that if he has to insist on following that orientation, and even going as far as making it known to other people, then he should already know what the consequences are likely going to be. One other thing I'd like to mention, on the subject of homosexuality as a whole. Forget about the fact that we have been/are moving towards a society where being gay is not met with criticism/outward displays of intolerance. What kind of bothers me is that I feel that we are slowly moving beyond that, to the point where it's "ok to be gay" or that it's even accepted as a natural thing and that the general public not only not hate it, but actually begin to embrace it. Obviously I don't mean for an oneself to embrace the possibility of becoming gay, but for the average person to accept gay behavior as a regular and natural part of society and to even openly express their joy at the fact that gay people should be and are free to behave as they wish. Basically what I mean is that I'm all for not being against gay people and gayness, not hating on them etc because we all have things we want to do, but to actually embrace it and accept it. I'm with the "I don't hate it, I just don't like it" group. Anyway I'm ranting here but it does kind of fascinate me how a child that young can be so sure of the fact that he is gay from a psychological/sociological point of view.

Yikes, my opinion of you dropped after reading that.

Gay people finally being able (at least in some parts of the world) to pursue sex and love like anybody else -- and yes, even publicly discuss and celebrate their experiences doing that -- is something to feel joy about. The fact that it makes you uncomfortable is just too bad, so here's a tiny violin playing all for you.



But perhaps you think "teh gays" ought to take whatever they can get. I suppose the attitude of "Do whatever you want, but keep it entirely out of my sight and hearing, and don't say it's natural or normal!" is better than the beatings and killings of the past.

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Originally posted by srussell0018 I think that penises which are attracted to other penises suffer from a mental disorder, and the penises should be treated as such.

and your entitled to your opinion. well, unless the government labels you a terrorist. Then they'll lock you up and throw away the key. That is, if you were in America.

But no seriously, I don't advocate homesexuality. I think it contradicts nature however, I do believe people from a young age are different sexually. Now whether that was because of environmental influences, or whether they were born that way, that's the way they are. They certainly have the right to live that way so long as they're happy.

Not sure if Adam is srs.

How do people still have these views?

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Originally posted by DJRYAN� But no seriously, I don't advocate homesexuality. I think it contradicts nature

DJRYAN HATES FAGS PASS IT ON

how is homosexuality against nature? hundreds of species of animals exhibit homosexual behavior. also, unless you're fucking them, another person's sexuality is really none of your business. much less do you have the right to say whether they are legally entitled to be together.

I think he meant it's wrong on an evolutionary basis.

If all the animals did was fuck the same sex then they'd die off.


Just saying.

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Originally posted by srussell0018 DJRYAN HATES FAGS PASS IT ON

No I dont. In fact some of my best friends are gay. I don't have any issue with it whatsoever. Would I change the way they are- No. Do I wish they were different- No. Do I think their lifestyle is abnormal or wrong- No. They are who they are and they have deserving qualties that make them my friends regardless of their orientation.

and it being against nature.

The human species procreates naturally between a male and a female. A male and a male cannot reproduce nor can a female and a female. That's what I meant by unnatural.

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Originally posted by Vector A [Assuming he is not trolling...] Yikes, my opinion of you dropped after reading that. Gay people finally being able (at least in some part of the world) to pursue sex and love like anybody else -- and yes, even publicly discuss and celebrate their experiences doing that -- is something to feel joy about. The fact that it makes you uncomfortable is just too bad, so here's a tiny violin playing all for you. But perhaps you think "teh gays" ought to take whatever they can get. I suppose the attitude of "Do whatever you want, but keep it entirely out of my sight and hearing, and don't say it's natural or normal!" is better than the beatings and killings of the past.

No but you're wrong in that it doesn't make me uncomfortable, at all. Call me old school or tell me that my mentality is out-dated or something. Perhaps it was the environment I grew up in. I can tolerate homosexuality, but I will never be able to accept it as a natural behavior. It just physically, doesn't make any sense. I mean I suppose a man can have natural feelings for another man, but no, we shouldn't celebrate it.

Anyway I never had it in mind that you had an opinion of me at all and this is a music forum and that is my only reason for being here at the end of the day so nothing gained nothing lost

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Originally posted by Alex I think he meant it's wrong on an evolutionary basis. If all the animals did was fuck the same sex then they'd die off. Just saying.

yep, pretty much

good thing there is more to life than fucking!

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Originally posted by Lews How do people still have these views?

Dude, what the fuck are you on, seriously? I am one of the most open-minded, liberal and [I like to think] forward-thinking people that I know, but unless you are gay, the only reason you would see homosexuality as a positive thing is that society fed you the idea that it's ok, and in fact encouraged to think so. Like I said let gay people be gay, I don't care. Let them be happy and let them enjoy the world the way that anybody else would. I have no problems with that. But for lack of better words (and I really do hate to use these words when I'm making a serious argument like this) that is not what they were created to be.

Ya. Like wanking it to nyan cat loops.

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Originally posted by DJRYAN� the gayest person in the world!! http://facebook.com/profile.php?=73322363

ya!

and trust me guys I'm not homophobic. I wouldn't be going to gay afterhours if I was and I wouldn't have spent any time in the company of gay people and at their homes. But I have.

I guess it's kind of a weird place to be. To be totally accepting of somebody yet not at the least bit embracing them.

And fuck you Ryan, you fucking f@ggot.

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Originally posted by Adam420 No but you're wrong in that it doesn't make me uncomfortable, at all. Call me old school or tell me that my mentality is out-dated or something. Perhaps it was the environment I grew up in. I can tolerate homosexuality, but I will never be able to accept it as a natural behavior. It just physically, doesn't make any sense. I mean I suppose a man can have natural feelings for another man, but no, we shouldn't celebrate it. Anyway I never had it in mind that you had an opinion of me at all and this is a music forum and that is my only reason for being here at the end of the day so nothing gained nothing lost

First of all, Adam, I like you and consider you a friend. K?

Second, your mentality is extremely out-dated.

You must not know many open-minded or forward-thinking people.


I don't see homosexuality as a positive thing for society. I also don't see it as a negative thing. I see it as something that just is. However, I do see acceptance of homosexuality as a positive thing for society. Different people have different brains and are attracted to different things. I don't see how that is bad for society in any way whatsoever.

Society hasn't fed me the idea that its okay, actually; I grew up going to an extremely conservative school that basically told me that all gay people should be killed. Science has just told me that there is nothing wrong with being homosexual and it's natural.

People are born gay. People are born straight. People are born bisexual, transexual, pansexual, etc, etc. People are born asexual. It doesn't matter. Everyone's brain is just wired different.

The only reason you dislike the idea of homosexuality is because you have been fed the idea that it's bad, unnatural, and wrong.

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Originally posted by Alex I think he meant it's wrong on an evolutionary basis. If all the animals did was fuck the same sex then they'd die off. Just saying.

A rebuttal: male seahorses. What's up with that shit?

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Originally posted by Adam420 and trust me guys I'm not homophobic. I wouldn't be going to gay afterhours if I was and I wouldn't have spent any time in the company of gay people and at their homes. But I have.

Trust me guys, I'm not racist at all. I have several black friends.

Same exact argument

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Originally posted by Ted Promo A rebuttal: male seahorses. What's up with that shit?

Not enough dadding.

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