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Posted by Desiderata on Oct-04-2013 08:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Spam
Why settle for just the pieces? The ref will give you 90% of the board. Your opponent gets h1-g3, and also a8-b7.



haha


Posted by Serial Killer on Oct-04-2013 13:26:

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Originally posted by AlphaStarred
I just want to be my old self again.


Read through all your comments. sorry to hear you're going through this. If it's not too private, what caused your issues to develop? A lot of people I know including me, at one point in life went through some kind of phase. some were more extreme than others. It's very tough to find someone to talk to who gets you and what you're going through. I think this quote below is spot on

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You feel the need to speak the truth about how you feel. That's fine but remember less people go through a mental breakdown than do, so you won't find many sympathizers on the issue in real life


People just don't get you, and it would piss me off even more and make me push other people away from me. Do you have any siblings, or someone in the family that you're close with? I'm very close with my sister which I'm thankful for, but I still can't share "all my issues" with her.. Anyways as this herb is wearing off lol, i hope you find your inner peace and share the secrets with others so they have something to look forward to and ignore threads like this

PEACE AND LOVE


Posted by AlphaStarred on Oct-04-2013 14:37:

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Originally posted by Serial Killer
Read through all your comments. sorry to hear you're going through this. If it's not too private, what caused your issues to develop? A lot of people I know including me, at one point in life went through some kind of phase. some were more extreme than others. It's very tough to find someone to talk to who gets you and what you're going through. I think this quote below is spot on


Perhaps it was too much stress, I'm not quite sure. It wasn't issues that gradually developed, it was a sudden breakdown of sorts. All of a sudden I thought I was closer to G-d, and my vision had become brighter. I had extreme racing thoughts, irritability, and aggression. I couldn't sit still or relax, I had to keep walking. My mind felt like it was on overdrive, and I couldn't detach myself from my surroundings. I'm guessing it was clear mania.

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People just don't get you, and it would piss me off even more and make me push other people away from me. Do you have any siblings, or someone in the family that you're close with? I'm very close with my sister which I'm thankful for, but I still can't share "all my issues" with her.. Anyways as this herb is wearing off lol, i hope you find your inner peace and share the secrets with others so they have something to look forward to and ignore threads like this

PEACE AND LOVE


I have a couple of friends who are Bipolar, and they immediately related to my symptoms. Those who aren't Bipolar, or who have never experienced a manic episode, could not understand me (with the exception of a few psychiatrists, who diagnosed me). It's definitely not a phase, as I've been through various phases in my life, but always retained my normalcy and equilibrium.

I also hope I find inner peace, but it seems like the only way to do that is to wait until the medication starts to work, and hopefully bring me back to my old, normal self.

Peace and love, brother.


Posted by Serial Killer on Oct-04-2013 15:19:

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Originally posted by AlphaStarred
I also hope I find inner peace, but it seems like the only way to do that is to wait until the medication starts to work, and hopefully bring me back to my old, normal self.


I think medication serves as a helping push in the beginning, but for me the toughest part was after, to try to control your brain to operate the same or close to it without the medication. that's the toughest step for me.

As for the original title of this thread:

If a person is in lots of pain, he/she should seek medical attention for sure, but who am I to call him selfish or anything else when I'm not in his shoes and not going through the same issues.


Posted by AlphaStarred on Oct-04-2013 15:32:

I would never call the person selfish, only the act itself, and only under the circumstances I've described.

Do you feel you've become your old self again as a result of medication?


Posted by Serial Killer on Oct-04-2013 15:50:

quote:
Originally posted by AlphaStarred
Do you feel you've become your old self again as a result of medication?


not 100% old self.. i'd say 70% since the meds do make you different (not in a bad way). but my issues were different than yours. after the meds settled in the system, it's the mental part that's very overwhelming which causes the anxiety and related negative thoughts that go with it. Basically the reality


Posted by Trance-M on Oct-04-2013 18:56:

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Originally posted by Serial Killer
not 100% old self.. i'd say 70% since the meds do make you different (not in a bad way). but my issues were different than yours. after the meds settled in the system, it's the mental part that's very overwhelming which causes the anxiety and related negative thoughts that go with it. Basically the reality


Very recognizable. I guess it will never be the same again as before, but accepting it doesn't need to be also is an important step.


Posted by Serial Killer on Oct-04-2013 20:33:

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Originally posted by Trance-MB
I guess it will never be the same again as before.


definitely not. but it's better than being without meds.


Posted by itsamemario on Oct-05-2013 20:51:

After opening your Walking Dead thread, where you've got two spoilers right in the OP, I definitely think you should end yourself.
Seriously wtf. It doesnt help writing SPOILERS with a bunch a stars around it, when both it and the spoilers are above mid-screen level.
And at 1920x1080 it most certainly is.
So yeah, go fuck yourself with a big dose of suicide, ya twat-banana!


Im jesting of course, but srsly wtf. Show some internet coutume for fucks sake.


Posted by Psyshell on Oct-06-2013 10:03:

Re: Why nobody should ever commit suicide

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Originally posted by AlphaStarred
It's selfish

Having ultimate ownership over someone's own body should trump everything else. There's possibly an economic argument to be made that it might be selfish to kill yourself if others have invested in you (e.g. public education, before you pay lots of taxes); but even still I think having supreme ownership over your own body should trump any sortof implicit contracts that were forced upon you.

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Originally posted by AlphaStarred
Things may always change for the better (This too shall pass)

Does it really matter? This isn't necessarily the case.
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Originally posted by AlphaStarred
What doesn't kill you may make you stronger

Strength of character/wisdom isn't necessarily the highest of priorities for everyone.

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Originally posted by AlphaStarred
You're a unique individual; there will never be another person like you again

Possibly the dumbest argument ever. What if so far in life the person in question has been cruel to everyone? The (literal) leeches that suck my blood have a unique DNA but that doesn't contribute to them being special in any way whatsoever. It's also worth considering that that each extra person is a drain on the planets resources.
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Originally posted by AlphaStarred
You'll always have something to offer

Generally true yes
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Originally posted by AlphaStarred
You have nothing to lose by continuing to live

That depends on how someone values losing/gaining. They might if continued life means continued unhappiness.
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Originally posted by AlphaStarred
There's purpose to your existence; a reason why you're here (don't argue)

Statements like this is why you lose my respect more and more with every thread
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Originally posted by AlphaStarred
There are people who are worse off than you are

So what? How does that invalidate having ultimate control over your own body?
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Originally posted by AlphaStarred
You should always seek help - talk to someone - before making a move

I'd probably agree on the basis that it's quite difficult for depressed people to predict the future accurately (in particular the probability of things getting better and or them getting happier).


Posted by AlphaStarred on Oct-06-2013 14:29:

When I was your age, I was still an idealistic, happy-go-lucky adolescent. Wait some more years, and perhaps your perspective on life will change (more so if you have a breakdown).

quote:
Originally posted by Psyshell
Statements like this is why you lose my respect more and more with every thread


With what other threads have I lost your respect?


Posted by Psyshell on Oct-06-2013 15:44:

The one where you were linking to christian anti masturbation websites. I've definitely had a major breakdown before though. My views on this were fairly similar before and after.


Posted by AlphaStarred on Oct-06-2013 16:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Psyshell
The one where you were linking to christian anti masturbation websites.


I apologized for the 'christian' website(s), where it was an oversight of mine. The 'masturbation' website had real testimonials from many people who were clearly satisfied with their decision to steer clear of porn and masturbation. I also have several friends who are much happier with such a decision (not that I'm necessarily for, or against it).

quote:
Originally posted by Psyshell
I've definitely had a major breakdown before though. My views on this were fairly similar before and after.


quote:
Originally posted by AlphaStarred
When I was your age, I was still an idealistic, happy-go-lucky adolescent. Wait some more years, and perhaps your perspective on life will change.


Posted by Dykes_on_Jay on Oct-06-2013 16:51:

After reading your posts, it is quite clear that you have no friends.


Posted by AlphaStarred on Oct-06-2013 16:53:

Get lost.


Posted by Dykes_on_Jay on Oct-06-2013 16:55:

Get bacon.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Oct-06-2013 17:48:

i find dealing with this rather sad topic from the point of view of the person being selfish usually pointless and in most cases makes the person more likely to do it. It is not really a decision one makes when thinking clearly so it doesn't really make any sense explaining what something is from your vantage point. I guess a similar thing would be calling drug addicts weak. It doesn't help, probably isn't accurate and just doesn't do any good for anyone.


Posted by Tyler James on Oct-06-2013 22:01:

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
I guess a similar thing would be calling drug addicts weak. It doesn't help, probably isn't accurate and just doesn't do any good for anyone.

Amen, my mother is a recovering addict and is NOT weak. She kicks my ass all the time... although not recently, but still. She is NOT weak.


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