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Yes UAD runs on their SHARC cards, it's not native. Best copy protection in the bizz, you can't run it on a computer without

It really is a dongle tho isn't it.

To whoever is reviving the old you can't sound analog with digital equipment listing a synth emx1 which is a vst in a box, you are not doing anyone any service. You place emphasis on equipment which given the amount of albums tracks that people start asking how did you make it sound so analog only to hear that they used the stock plugin and good ears.

Analog equipment is a workflow thing. certain chains have been established. Like presets in a way. Software takes a little more skill. Hardware looks nice. You should be in a room that looks nice,

That was fast.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney To whoever is reviving the old you can't sound analog with digital equipment listing a synth emx1 which is a vst in a box, you are not doing anyone any service.

It is a vst in a box, indeed, but it also has two Vacuum tubes (Valve Force Circuitry) which create an analog tube circuit, giving it an original sound that you probably won't achieve with software. I also listed it because it's a "hardware" box, for relatively cheap, and would offer a different "workflow," as you mention, rather than just using software.

I would say software provides more options. Same , I don't know, but consider that almost every engineer is starting to use say impulse response tools for "reamping" a guitar, well ask yourself why. Software does Ot 1000 times faster, sounds identical different or better in the mix.

The valves on Electribes were utter bollocks. I say this as an Electribe owner and fucking loved them but those tubes were for nothing more than show.

A lot of guys were either hard bypassing them or finding old style valves from the Czech republic to replace them.

Dickie is right though; they really were all solidstate machines in the 90's if anyone ever says "analogue sounds of the 90's" you know they;re a rookie. Like working in a studio and saying duct tape instead of gaffer tape. rookie mistake.

The thing with the 90's was the sounds, not really the fidelity or quality of the technology. That and the music was made by real musicians, there was a quality filter from vinyl blah blah blah.

A really talented engineer can exactly imitate that analogue feel with modern digital means - I've seen it done - it's just a very nuanced and subtle thing that takes serious experience, whereas anyone with basic engineering skills can get "that sound" out of true analogue gear. By the same token, anyone with basic engineering skills is going to have a tough time getting anything other than cold and clean from modern plugin fx.

Software does give unlimited options which is great, but it doesn't automatically mean better, unless you actually make it better.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN A really talented engineer can exactly imitate that analogue feel with modern digital means - I've seen it done - it's just a very nuanced and subtle thing that takes serious experience...

Therein lies the rub. How many software bedroom producers are also really talented engineers?

As I said before, I think the best option is probably to incorporate both, which many producers do nowadays. In fact I only hear amateur bedroom producers saying they don't need analog as digital can perfectly emulate it, etc. whereas they're likely unable to do such things in the first place.

Chances are its because they have never had or used anything analog in the first place.

Its not something you can download.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney It really is a dongle tho isn't it

yep it is, sharc, a pityful excuse for processing power, being the key

i love how they redo their initial 1176 essentially saying the original wasn't actually as close as they said it was and charge a premium .

I had the UAd card in 2002 . I still have 2 quads and rarely touch them. They sound as good as the competition. They emulate hardware and fail begging the question, why not just do what software does good and stop trying to recreate something. This is the thing i hate about analog wannabe virtual stuff. Ok, do the original but add on to it. Do what putnam would of done if he could.

great plugins, shitty latency , overpriced. Doesn't sound the same as the hardware. The competition for all those plugins have been done to death.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney i love how they redo their initial 1176 essentially saying the original wasn't actually as close as they said it was and charge a premium . I had the UAd card in 2002 . I still have 2 quads and rarely touch them. They sound as good as the competition. They emulate hardware and fail begging the question, why not just do what software does good and stop trying to recreate something. This is the thing i hate about analog wannabe virtual stuff. Ok, do the original but add on to it. Do what putnam would of done if he could. great plugins, shitty latency , overpriced. Doesn't sound the same as the hardware. The competition for all those plugins have been done to death.

yep, that pretty much sums up my perspective on UAD too

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