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Posted by Dykes_on_Jay on Mar-14-2015 12:00:

They should make Palestinians wear brown stars on their clothes.

That'll learn 'em real good.


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Mar-14-2015 16:58:

Ironic,

pre world war II, the jews never wanted their own country.. why would they? after all Judaism was just a religion. Why should they be segregated as per the Haavara Agreement into a country of their ancestral religious roots. They were just like any other relgious group, spread accross the map like christians, muslims, hidnus etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement

I guess after losing half their population they concurred with the nazi ideology to be identified as a segregated people, essentially invoking anti-semitism by the creation of israel.

The obvious irony here is that if they complied with the Nazi regime in the first place, there would have probably been no issue in amalgamating in palestine with the current population living there, and the more obvious plus that they would have not encountered a Genocide. The end result was the same, the european jews would be back in Palestine/Israel.

But obviously the premise was wrong, the Nazi ideology was wrong, so why do the jews want to be segregated? The creation of Israel was essentially a Nazi pipe dream LOL.


of course there was also the madagascar plan. David Ben Gurion - prime minister of Madagascar LOL.


Posted by Serial Killer on Mar-15-2015 15:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Jon_Snow
Israel has the mentality of a insecure kid who was bullied at school. From their inception they've taken and held everything they have by force. Long ago they had an opportunity to be magnanimous victors instead they pursued their advantage, humiliating and oppressing their defeated opponent.


Israel has not started any wars. They were, however, attacked on many occasions. When it comes to Iran, Iran has threatened to destroy Israel on many occasions. Israel is so tiny that one or two nukes would virtually destroy them.
There is no surviving a nuclear war for Israel. Quite frankly, Iran's one of the world's leading sponsors of terror, arming Hezbollah and Hamas.

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
Ironic,

pre world war II, the jews never wanted their own country.. why would they? after all Judaism was just a religion. Why should they be segregated as per the Haavara Agreement into a country of their ancestral religious roots. They were just like any other relgious group, spread accross the map like christians, muslims, hidnus etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement

I guess after losing half their population they concurred with the nazi ideology to be identified as a segregated people, essentially invoking anti-semitism by the creation of israel.

The obvious irony here is that if they complied with the Nazi regime in the first place, there would have probably been no issue in amalgamating in palestine with the current population living there, and the more obvious plus that they would have not encountered a Genocide. The end result was the same, the european jews would be back in Palestine/Israel.

But obviously the premise was wrong, the Nazi ideology was wrong, so why do the jews want to be segregated? The creation of Israel was essentially a Nazi pipe dream LOL.


of course there was also the madagascar plan. David Ben Gurion - prime minister of Madagascar LOL.


geeezzz you def seem like a knuckle dragging ape lol


Posted by Dykes_on_Jay on Mar-15-2015 17:16:

You should really revise your history.


Posted by Dykes_on_Jay on Mar-15-2015 17:17:

Nationalism is fun.


Posted by tranceCDs on Mar-16-2015 18:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Jon_Snow
Israel has the mentality of a insecure kid who was bullied at school. From their inception they've taken and held everything they have by force. Long ago they had an opportunity to be magnanimous victors instead they pursued their advantage, humiliating and oppressing their defeated opponent.

Demonic Arab muslim scum deserve more than being humiliated..its gonna be funny when the god of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob destroys 5/6 Islamic pieces of shit in one sweep.


Posted by Lews on Mar-16-2015 19:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Ali Van Vell
Demonic Arab muslim scum deserve more than being humiliated..its gonna be funny when the god of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob destroys 5/6 Islamic pieces of shit in one sweep.


And there we go.


Posted by enydo on Mar-16-2015 19:10:

Fuck yeah, Vengeful God. That's my shit. The Jews and their Old Testament, oh ffffffuck yeahhhh.


Posted by Viber on Mar-17-2015 13:51:

How do you know he is Jewish?


Posted by Dykes_on_Jay on Mar-17-2015 14:00:

I can smell the jheri curl juice from here. This form of skewed nationalism is blatantly caused by a lack of bacon and common sense.


Posted by Serial Killer on Mar-17-2015 15:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Dykes_on_Jay
I can smell the jheri curl juice from here. This form of skewed nationalism is blatantly caused by a lack of bacon and common sense.


nationalism...lol... dummy
also, there is turkey bacon.


Posted by Dykes_on_Jay on Mar-17-2015 15:56:

Only a jew would accept disgusting turkey bacon out of jealousy.

Nationalism applies. Zionism knows no borders...only hypocrisy.


Posted by Dykes_on_Jay on Mar-17-2015 16:08:

Man, the thought of turkey bacon being a satisfactory substitute for anything other than cardboard is the most delusional thing I have ever seen posted on these forums.


Posted by Serial Killer on Mar-17-2015 17:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Dykes_on_Jay
Man, the thought of turkey bacon being a satisfactory substitute for anything other than cardboard is the most delusional thing I have ever seen posted on these forums.


i think this is more delusional. lolz.. dummy

quote:
Originally posted by Dykes_on_Jay
Nationalism applies. Zionism knows no borders...only hypocrisy.


Posted by AlphaStarred on Mar-17-2015 19:13:

Speaking of G-d and how merciful towards us he actually is: we may be liable to harsher punishment when we sin against each other, as opposed to when we sin against G-d - the accounts of the Flood and the tower of Babel in the Torah come to mind. G-d's punishment was far more severe when man sinned against man, as opposed to when men sinned against G-d.

I've also recently noticed that when I wasted seed and watched porn, I didn't feel as bad, down and guilty as when I sinned against my fellow Jew at the local synagogue. Both were quite apparently bad, and I definitely noticed myself operating in a kind of lower spiritual level, or "lower frequency," if you will, but the connection to the Torah's aforementioned accounts certainly came to mind, as well.


Posted by enydo on Mar-17-2015 19:38:

You're insane.


Posted by Viber on Mar-17-2015 19:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Dykes_on_Jay
Only a jew would accept disgusting turkey bacon out of jealousy.

Nationalism applies. Zionism knows no borders...only hypocrisy.



Look at him overcompensating...It isn't hard to believe this man is a Jew.

Someday you will learn to love yourself for who you are, Jay.


Posted by on Mar-17-2015 20:48:

Thread needs to be retitled "Joo mad?"


Posted by DJ RANN on Mar-17-2015 23:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Viber
So why aren't they revolting? why aren't they demonstrating for PLUR in the streets?


Er, ever seen what the IDF do to peaceful EUROPEAN protesters, let alone any group of Palestinians taking to the streets. Sure, they should just paint rainbows on flags and ask that those pesky bulldozers just turn right around.

I honestly don't know if you're just ignorant, too young to understand or simply too naive to assess the situation.


quote:
Originally posted by Viber
There can't be any true two states solution because the Palestinians will always decline any solution which doesn't compromise the security of Israel.

Are you familiar with the Egyptian initiative? The Palestinians received an offer from Egypt to form an independent state 5 times bigger than GAZA + autonomy for the PLO in the West Bank, yet they refused like they always do.


Wait, you mean the "initiative" that was all over the Isreali press, but both Egypt themselves and the PLO said had never been offered or existed? It also helps if the country allegedly offering a big swathe of land, er, you know, actually has the land to offer.

quote:
Originally posted by Viber
Why would you take care of your children when you can make them a soldier for Allah?


Yes, because that's all the palestinians want. Little death minions to offer up to Allah.

quote:
Originally posted by Viber
What about Israelis having missiles being launched on them daily? what about Israelis getting stabbed and run over by terrorists?


The rockets are inexcusable. However, with funding in the region of $1 billions from the USA, the Iron Dome, at recent estimates, stops 95% of all rockets, so essentially these attacks are really quite pathetic and futile.

That's why those death stats are that way - the iron dome has really made them irrelevant. Still the rockets should stop none the less.

quote:
Originally posted by Viber
Why are those houses demolished exactly? fill me up on the details on that because right next to me there is a friendly,loyal Arab village and no houses are demolished over there.


I won't "fill you up" - I don't play for that team - but just saying you have some Friendly arab neighbors (I thought all Arabs in your eyes just want "little soldiers for Allah"?) does not mean that irael isn't bulldozing houses.

Maybe do some research:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_...tinian_conflict

c0r version in case you're too lazy to read and understand it all: Every country, the UN and Geneva conventions deem the behavior as illegal, except Israel.

quote:
Originally posted by Viber
And now you are showing your discontent about the fact that Israelis have defense systems and Shelters while the Palestinians don't have a better arsenal of weapons.
THIS ISN'T FAIR!
Would more Jews being killed satisfy you more? will it make things more even? Or should Israel stand by while hundred of missiles are fired on it's citizens? (which are Jews,Muslims,Christians,Druze,Atheists etc)


Wow. I don't know which cretinous part of brain makes that jump but how about rather than more Israeli's dying, HOW ABOUT A FUCKLOAD LESS PALESTINIAN CIVILIANS DYING?

Again, you have a defense system that by and large is paid for by the USA which destroys all but 5% of Hamas rockets, and have one of the best equipped and trained military forces which was used to crush civilians and destroy their homes. It's like using canons to kill mosquitos.

quote:
Originally posted by Viber
No IDF soldiers are brought into account here.

Yes, because those stats were just comparing civilians to civilians.

But hey, let's add the 60 IDF soldiers that were killed. Yes, total of 60 or to put it another way, about how many palestinians were killed in 3 days (of a seven week conflict).

Any loss of life on either side is still tragic, but statistically, it's like pissing in to the ocean.

quote:
Originally posted by Viber
And again, i apologize no more Jews were killed to make things more fair in your eyes.

You should apologize, but again, not for that, but for that you think it's OK that Israel kills civilians like it did.

quote:
Originally posted by Viber
Want me to show you a graph about Arabs killed in America vs Americans killed by Muslims? will it make 9\11 OK in your eyes?

Sure, while you're at it, make sure the graph has the ratio of the price of fish included. That will make the comparison even more legitimate, no?

quote:
Originally posted by Viber
Of course i do, that's exactly why i want them to get better education,rebel against whoever is using them as pawns and then prosper in their own country.
Happy ADVANCED Muslims=Happy Israel.


Sure, why don't we start with giving them the means to trade with outside nations, free travel, their own protected land ownership rights? Oh snap. That doesn't gel with current Israeli politics.


Posted by Viber on Mar-18-2015 00:42:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
Er, ever seen what the IDF do to peaceful EUROPEAN protesters, let alone any group of Palestinians taking to the streets. Sure, they should just paint rainbows on flags and ask that those pesky bulldozers just turn right around.

I honestly don't know if you're just ignorant, too young to understand or simply too naive to assess the situation.


wut?
Simple question: if they can do this:


Why can't they do this:
http://www.haaretz.com/polopoly_fs/1.607391.1408193855!/image/3333688356.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_640/3333688356.jpg


What bulldozers are you talking about? the only thing that will stop it will be Hamas "fighters" who will execute everyone involved.


quote:

Wait, you mean the "initiative" that was all over the Isreali press, but both Egypt themselves and the PLO said had never been offered or existed? It also helps if the country allegedly offering a big swathe of land, er, you know, actually has the land to offer.


AFAIK the Sinai Peninsula belongs to Egypt so where is the problem?
Of course the Egyptians will deny it, why would anyone confirm a deal of this nature at this stage?

Anyway, some sources say Abbas declined it and some say he never heard of it.




quote:

Yes, because that's all the palestinians want. Little death minions to offer up to Allah.


Here you go again, nice try but i didn't generalize an entire population like you are making it seem.

That's not what the people of Gaza want, it's what whoever is in charge over there wants and that includes power figures from nations like Iran and Qatar.


quote:

The rockets are inexcusable. However, with funding in the region of $1 billions from the USA, the Iron Dome, at recent estimates, stops 95% of all rockets, so essentially these attacks are really quite pathetic and futile.

That's why those death stats are that way - the iron dome has really made them irrelevant. Still the rockets should stop none the less.


You want better "stats"? don't house armories or launch missiles from schools, civilian buildings,hospitals etc.
You want WAY better stats? don't fire missiles.



quote:

I won't "fill you up" - I don't play for that team - but just saying you have some Friendly arab neighbors (I thought all Arabs in your eyes just want "little soldiers for Allah"?) does not mean that irael isn't bulldozing houses.

Maybe do some research:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_...tinian_conflict

c0r version in case you're too lazy to read and understand it all: Every country, the UN and Geneva conventions deem the behavior as illegal, except Israel.


Yes, Israel is bulldozing houses "against Palestinians and in some cases Israeli settlers."

Did you bother reading the IDF arguments or do you think Jewish people are evil and therefor they demolish innocent civilian houses for their pleasure?

Personally i can't justify this policy nor can i be against it, it's like the effects prisons have on society or the effects Guantanamo has on Terrorism.



quote:

Wow. I don't know which cretinous part of brain makes that jump but how about rather than more Israeli's dying, HOW ABOUT A FUCKLOAD LESS PALESTINIAN CIVILIANS DYING?


I'm not swearing why are you?
can't we have a friendly discussion?

"A FUCKLOAD LESS PALESTINIAN CIVILIANS DYING" is achievable, but only if Israel inserts more ground troops.
Why would a country in war jeopardize it's own sons just so it can save more lives at the aggressor's side? especially when said country didn't start the escalation?

Israel is not like America, Israel doesn't leave soldiers behind and Israel cares about the well being of it's soldiers.

quote:

Again, you have a defense system that by and large is paid for by the USA which destroys all but 5% of Hamas rockets, and have one of the best equipped and trained military forces which was used to crush civilians and destroy their homes. It's like using canons to kill mosquitos.


You are right, Israel should do nothing about hundreds of missiles being fired into it's territories.
Israel Should just pay billions on iron dome rockets until Hamas will get tired.

Let me ask you something: what happens if 20 missiles are launched at once from the Gaza strip? how effective is Iron Dome then?


quote:

You should apologize, but again, not for that, but for that you think it's OK that Israel kills civilians like it did.


I don't think it's ok, i'm a fucking hippie. I wish there were no wars in the world and i'm sure humanity has more to offer than all of this pointless bullshit.

But i'm not going to apologize that more of my people didn't die so it will look more proportionate to the rest of the world, i blame these deaths on Hamas and on extreme Muslims who insist on perpetuating the Palestinian problem.



quote:

Sure, while you're at it, make sure the graph has the ratio of the price of fish included. That will make the comparison even more legitimate, no?


I meant Arabs being killed BY america lol

quote:

Sure, why we don't with giving them the means to trade with outside nations, free travel, their own protected land ownership rights? Oh snap. That doesn't gel with current Israeli politics.


Why That doesn't gel with current Israeli politics? because the Israelis WANT to hurt innocent Palestinians or is it because of security reasons?

How can i allow you to import cement when you use it to dig terror tunnels below my house? fertilizers to make bombs etc...

How can i allow you to travel freely in Israel when many of your people are murderous fanatics who blew buses,stabbed and launched missiles at civilians?


Posted by on Mar-18-2015 01:17:

Joo madder not really


Posted by Serial Killer on Mar-18-2015 01:59:

http://news.yahoo.com/king-bibis-re...-061428651.html


Posted by AlphaStarred on Mar-18-2015 03:01:

Let's not forget the millions of dollars Hamas spent to build terror tunnels (used primarily to ambush and kill innocent civilians), instead of using that money to increase the standard of living for the people in Gaza. I'd like someone to try and justify this, please.

A key difference between Hamas (or/and whoever else is doing the rocket firing, etc.) and Israel is that the former targets civilians, whereas the latter targets the attackers. And as Viber already pointed out, if Hamas/Gaza didn't start firing hundreds of rockets into Israel's civilian territories daily, - causing people to flee for bomb shelters every time a rocket was fired and a bomb alarm went off - there wouldn't be any casualties in Gaza in the first place!


Posted by on Mar-18-2015 03:48:

We would never have massacred the native americans if they didn't resist us when we took away their lands and confined them to reservations.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Mar-18-2015 04:01:

quote:
Originally posted by AlphaStarred
Let's not forget the millions of dollars Hamas spent to build terror tunnels (used primarily to ambush and kill innocent civilians), instead of using that money to increase the standard of living for the people in Gaza. I'd like someone to try and justify this, please.

A key difference between Hamas (or/and whoever else is doing the rocket firing, etc.) and Israel is that the former targets civilians, whereas the latter targets the attackers. And as Viber already pointed out, if Hamas/Gaza didn't start firing hundreds of rockets into Israel's civilian territories daily, - causing people to flee for bomb shelters every time a rocket was fired and a bomb alarm went off - there wouldn't be any casualties in Gaza in the first place!




pretty hard to justify an illegal occupation and say you aren't the bad guys. No matter how you add the numbers. Those casualties on the palestinian side are mostly civilians. Isreal is killing far more civilians wether that is their official stance or not. Asymmetrical warfare forces tactics that are less than ideal. These tactics would not be necessary or used if Israel would fuck off.

it seems really fucking simple. The only people that don't seem to get it are idiot jews, 3-4 nations that have an interest in having an ally close to oil that won't pull a ribbentrov.


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