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Posted by AlphaStarred on Apr-17-2016 16:37:

Is it just me, or has rubez given himself liberty to talk in a most condescending, disrespectful manner only to those who've never released vinyl before?

If you've released vinyl, are you considered pro and more "experienced?"


Posted by Storyteller on Apr-17-2016 17:38:

I've been released on several vinyls. So, now, why the fuck was this shit thread resurrected after being dead for ~1 year?

edit: Full disclosure: I only read the last post and the date of the OP.


Posted by AlphaStarred on Apr-17-2016 17:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Storyteller
So, now, why the fuck was this shit thread resurrected after being dead for ~1 year?


It's been a hot question since the resurrection. Seems like rubez ain't respondin'


Posted by Vector A on Apr-17-2016 17:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Storyteller
I've been released on several vinyls. So, now, why the fuck was this shit thread resurrected after being dead for ~1 year?

edit: Full disclosure: I only read the last post and the date of the OP.

rubbiez himself resurrected it to showcase the four-bar chefs-d'�uvre he had recently made.


Posted by AlphaStarred on Apr-17-2016 23:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Storyteller
I've been released on several vinyls.


I only noticed one.


Posted by rubez on Apr-18-2016 11:10:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
If you had turned any one of them in to not even a full track but just something with say 2 mins of structure, that might be something, but you haven;t,


two of them are over a minute, and one is 3 minutes. maybe you didn't bother listening. these are JDXI 1, 2 & 3.

these were recorded as audio by playing them live, by unmuting parts. also, the drums are all tied to one track, so that's a pain in the arse to separate them all to build a track... this was basically just a test, finally got audio recorded. was wanting midi recorded, but this will do for now.

would be easier to do everything ITB in a DAW, but that is not really fun - it's more like reverse engineering for me.


Posted by Storyteller on Apr-18-2016 11:48:

quote:
Originally posted by AlphaStarred
I only noticed one.


Try and notice more


Posted by MSZ on Apr-18-2016 17:50:

Wtf, the shit-talk stopped? Say it isnt so.


Posted by AlphaStarred on Apr-18-2016 19:47:

I know, this was actually really fun. Rubez, can I suggest something? Get a fucking drum machine (a la TR-8) so you can do everything real quick, OTB, as you seem to prefer. Otherwise start using a DAW and start putting in the time and effort in learning it. That's of course if you're even remotely interested in doing "tracks."


Posted by rubez on Apr-20-2016 10:58:

got a TR8, but it is less flexible than the drum section on the JDXI for programming.

TR8 is more a live performance instrument.


Posted by AlphaStarred on Apr-20-2016 16:46:

Not really. The programming is similar to the original 909/808, and it is definitely handy for production, as well. Nina Kraviz, among others, uses it solely for production. You can sync it with the JDXI and use both. It's all a matter of wanting to actually produce a track. If you don't have the desire, you obviously won't do it.

If you use the TR-8 with a DAW (e.g. Ableton), you can assign each instrument to an individual channel, so it becomes more flexible still. I personally have been using it OTB, and mostly only for the kick - for percussion I use a 606 - they work together pretty well.

I'll say this again, though - if you want to actually finish a track, you will. If you don't, you won't. Doesn't mean you have to look for excuses, however, to justify not finishing a track.


Posted by rubez on Apr-21-2016 12:20:

my main problem is the DAW... and external hardware integration.

FL is giving me crap while trying to record MIDI. been meaning to trying a new DAW and reason is at the top of my list. it seems the most fun and straightforward.

that or cubase... the full educational version can be bagged for half price

actually, with the JDXI, even though all the drums are on 'one track' on the synth itself, when painted into the DAW all the instruments are represented individually... so that's good. and with the JDXI you can layer drum sounds live, plus also you have the built in arp to use. this is why i feel the TR8 is more of a performance instrument.


Posted by AlphaStarred on Apr-21-2016 14:21:

I don't see how what you wrote makes the TR-8 more of a performance instrument, but regardless - the original 909/808 were convenient for both live pas and in-home/in-the-studio production. Same goes for the TR-8.

That said, if you can individually sequence the percussion of the JDXI in a DAW, then you don't really need the TR-8, as DAW integration would allow you to do the same thing with both machines.


Posted by TranceElevation on Apr-21-2016 14:42:

Guys, stay away from Cubase. Go with Ableton.


Posted by rubez on Apr-21-2016 15:42:

the faders primarily make the TR8 more a live instrument (compared to the JDXI anyway) surely if you were programming in a DAW, you would use automation anyway.

fuck ableton, hate that shit with a passion.

gonna see if i can get the educational version of cubase sent out to me, save myself 100 sheets. will give the demo a bash first.


Posted by TranceElevation on Apr-21-2016 19:00:

Cubase is the most anti-electronic music daw there is. I understood that too late. Ableton is the most friendly towards us.


Posted by rubez on Apr-21-2016 22:41:

after trying it, and most other DAWs, i have to conclude FL is for me. it's the only DAW i can understand intuitively. it has its roots in simplicity after all, so i will try figure out its intricacies also.

i tried ableton before and my brain went into meltdown

i notice the FL tracks are brighter and fuller, where as JDXI are dull and muffled

looking into buying a decent soft synth, and just using the JDXI as a controller.

going to flesh "FL2" out into a track. done it solely inside FL, with the base plugs-ins and samples. much more harder work than the JDXI, but finally got somewhere in the end with lots of tweaking. pretty satisfying.

https://soundcloud.com/rubez-2


Posted by Reckard Cat on May-17-2016 16:45:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceElevation
Cubase is the most anti-electronic music daw there is. I understood that too late. Ableton is the most friendly towards us.


quote:
Originally posted by TranceElevation
Guys, stay away from Cubase. Go with Ableton.



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