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Posted by Zewad on Nov-11-2002 16:21:

i have been to club Space(miami) many times, but have never been to a club north of Atlanta,... those of you that have been to both Space and those other northern clubs (glow,arc,nation,roxy,etc...) please compare Space to those, b/c from what ive heard and seen from glow(i know very little about those other 3) it looks like a younger crowd, more casual dress code, and smaller... Space though allows cameras, has some seating that is more valuable than gold-basically somebody in your party needs to occupy the seat the whole night but its right on the dance floor so you are still right in the mix of the masses and is elevated a bit so you can see over everybody, has the outdoor patio to go and cool off and look up at the stars for a breather that everybody needs now and again, a really high dj booth(too high, can barely see some of the djs sometimes), the soundsystem is amazing-a tad loud though, good temperature esp. when the cooling jets shoot out, although im not the biggest fan of vip areas- its vip areas are massive(i saw P. Diddy last dec at while at PVD), and i like wandering around in the 4 rooms (blue[main], red, basement, and patio), ive heard that Space is the best club in the US, i have almost nothing to base that on but i cant disagree, list some pros and cons about those other clubs b/c i am quite curious, merci beaucoup
Zewad


Posted by Highmay on Nov-11-2002 16:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Redeye
Jayme, you making it to AC for Picotto on the 27th???
not sure yet...it' either there or Deep Dish in philly...

trouble is that i have to be in DC because my fam is gonna be down there...i'd be content staying in DC, but theres NOTHING going on on TGE....so let's see what happens...


Posted by Twilogoddess on Nov-11-2002 18:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Redeye
Actually, for the worst scene with a lack of musical knowledge is Exit. Its not even close. I used to walk around in there during Tiesto and I would hear pelpe saying'this guy is from europe, he must be good' or when Tony Draper was on I would hear 'Tiesto is playing some good stuff right now' That place needs to be burned down for the insurance money so Marvisis can get the hell out of NYC and ruin some other city.
You can't compare Glow to Exit. Thats like comparing a peach to a grapefruit.
The crowds at both clubs are there for entirely different reasons. The majority of the friday exit crowd is about congregating and getting into a K hole. The melting pot Glow crowd is more of a meat market pick up scene not so much about drugs. I'm all for a diverse crowd like Body and Soul but glow is filled with poor white trash skanks and sleaze balls making out and grinding on the dancefloor as if we are at a reggae club. Then u have the guys that are trying way too hard with the sunglasses, spiky hair, and fcuk or a/x shirts.


Posted by Dahippieman on Nov-11-2002 18:28:

Thumbs down

quote:
Originally posted by Twilogoddess
You can't compare Glow to Exit. Thats like comparing a peach to a grapefruit.
The crowds at both clubs are there for entirely different reasons. The majority of the friday exit crowd is about congregating and getting into a K hole. The melting pot Glow crowd is more of a meat market pick up scene not so much about drugs. I'm all for a diverse crowd like Body and Soul but glow is filled with poor white trash skanks and sleaze balls making out and grinding on the dancefloor as if we are at a reggae club. Then u have the guys that are trying way too hard with the sunglasses, spiky hair, and fcuk or a/x shirts.
hmmmm caryn is pvd @ glow gonna be another pvd @ exit night


Posted by pyro264jb on Nov-11-2002 18:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Dahippieman
hmmmm caryn is pvd @ glow gonna be another pvd @ exit night

No way bro... This will probably be the Best Pvd Experiance of your life



Facts about GLow.

1) Paul will walk bye you to get into the booth
2) you will be aout 2 fee away from him the whole night
3) He will Walk out of the back left door of the club Right up to the Trance addicts and say hi and mingle a bit.


These 3 things have happened for me the past 3 times I have been there for AVB , Marco V, and Johon Gielen .


Posted by Greedy on Nov-11-2002 19:48:

quote:
Originally posted by pyro264jb
No way bro... This will probably be the Best Pvd Experiance of your life



Facts about GLow.

1) Paul will walk bye you to get into the booth
2) you will be aout 2 fee away from him the whole night
3) He will Walk out of the back left door of the club Right up to the Trance addicts and say hi and mingle a bit.


These 3 things have happened for me the past 3 times I have been there for AVB , Marco V, and Johon Gielen .


that is so true. Glow is the only place you can be that close to a DJ in your LIFE. . . .unless youre a hot chixx.
Cool thing about armin was that he was all about taking pics with the TAs. Some DJs would just do some half ass pose for a split second and run off but not Armin. This one guy that was taking a pic of Beema and Armin fucked up and he told the guy to take the pic again. Then he went and took that group with us.
How cool is that?


Posted by pyro264jb on Nov-11-2002 20:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Busy Child
that is so true. Glow is the only place you can be that close to a DJ in your LIFE. . . .unless youre a hot chixx.
Cool thing about armin was that he was all about taking pics with the TAs. Some DJs would just do some half ass pose for a split second and run off but not Armin. This one guy that was taking a pic of Beema and Armin fucked up and he told the guy to take the pic again. Then he went and took that group with us.
How cool is that?


I want to see the pics.


Posted by Twilogoddess on Nov-11-2002 23:14:

quote:
Originally posted by pyro264jb


Facts about GLow.

1) Paul will walk bye you to get into the booth
2) you will be aout 2 fee away from him the whole night
3) He will Walk out of the back left door of the club Right up to the Trance addicts and say hi and mingle a bit.


I wouldn't count on the third one. He'll be putting on his jacket during the last encore and scadaddle.

I'll be at Marco V at Arc.


Posted by Taub on Nov-12-2002 00:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Twilogoddess


I'll be at Marco V at Arc.


me toOOO

This guy will own all of you in a year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Posted by amdmaxx on Nov-12-2002 00:54:

Nah, Amit is only 67lb, there is room for few more..

quote:
Originally posted by arleetec
You and Amit, isn't that full capicity for glow already?


Posted by amdmaxx on Nov-12-2002 00:57:

Love that about glow..

quote:
Originally posted by pyro264jb
No way bro... This will probably be the Best Pvd Experiance of your life



Facts about GLow.

1) Paul will walk bye you to get into the booth
2) you will be aout 2 fee away from him the whole night
3) He will Walk out of the back left door of the club Right up to the Trance addicts and say hi and mingle a bit.


These 3 things have happened for me the past 3 times I have been there for AVB , Marco V, and Johon Gielen .


Posted by Greedy on Nov-12-2002 01:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Twilogoddess
I wouldn't count on the third one. He'll be putting on his jacket during the last encore and scadaddle.


hmmm, sounds like he doesnt feel comfortable being in nyc. Another great reason to go to Glow. I guess he gives more attention to fans in DC than NY possibly.


Posted by Twilogoddess on Nov-12-2002 18:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Busy Child
hmmm, sounds like he doesnt feel comfortable being in nyc. Another great reason to go to Glow. I guess he gives more attention to fans in DC than NY possibly.
No you misunderstood. Paul loves NYC.
He is not goin to mingle and take pix with the ta's. He's puts on his jacket during the encore and jets. He's not friendly and approachable like the dutch guys.


Posted by Taub on Nov-12-2002 18:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Twilogoddess
No you misunderstood. Paul loves NYC.
He is not goin to mingle and take pix with the ta's. He's puts on his jacket during the encore and jets. He's not friendly and approachable like the dutch guys.


or the italian


Posted by pyro264jb on Nov-12-2002 19:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Busy Child
hmmm, sounds like he doesnt feel comfortable being in nyc. Another great reason to go to Glow. I guess he gives more attention to fans in DC than NY possibly.



Any dj who would fly from Europe to NYC to Dallas and then back to

NYC the next day to do a FREE show must like us a little


Posted by Greedy on Nov-12-2002 22:02:

We will have to see if paul sticks around after glow to settle this.


Posted by Rhythm on Nov-14-2002 02:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Busy Child
We will have to see if paul sticks around after glow to settle this.


Yah. I agree with Busy Child all the way here. Call it a hunch, but I don't think that Paul will jet past 20 of some of his best fans, ya know? (especially if we're all in VANDIT shirts) He may only stay for a couple mins, but I still think he'll do it!! The trick is to park your car in the lot across from GLOW... then run to it after the set, and rush back to the entrance to get your pics haha.


Posted by Rhythm on Nov-14-2002 02:35:

GLOW's sound system

Hey guys... this was posted recently on GLOW's forum coming from Pete Moutso (weekly resident dj and music director at GLOW). He talks about the sound system, it's specs, and how they're workin to fix some of the probs.

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Hi, I hear your needs and I understand completely. Just to give you a brief background...we own the whole light, sound system and dj booth at insomnia. Last year when we moved the Glow party from Zei club to Insomnia we realized that changes had to be made at Insomnia. To be fair, at the time, the new owners of the venue did not have the funds to do this. So, we knew that we had to take a big risk and invest our own money to make Glow what we wanted it to be. The first thing was get a completely new sound system. I am not exaggerating when I tell you that the original system was maybe 6 mids/highs and maybe 4 sub cabinets. We had arguably the best speaker manufacturers, EAW (Eastern Acoustical Works�the same guys who make Avalon and the mids/highs of Phazon) come to Insomnia and measure the main room and recommend to us what sound to get. In other words, what you see in the main room is a custom built sound system. I made it clear that I wanted more sound/power than we needed in order to have no compression and to be able to support live bands and anything that the room would ever need. What did they make me? An awesome 42,000 (continuous) EAW sound system. To give you an idea about its power�when you hear it full blast on Saturday�s�the system is only running at � of its capabilities. We did this because; we would rather spend a lot of money up front for a great sound system�and not have to worry about blowing speakers and amps every week. And to say the sound system runs on one amp is totally absurd! This is 2002, and the days of having a designated room with fans, cooling units and 30 amps are over. Our sound system has 16 mid/high speakers all around the room to give it a surround effect and they all have built in amps. We have two 11,000 watt QSC amps running 8 double 18� sub cabinets. Everything is running on digital processing. The beauty of this system is that it has so much headroom, that it is pretty difficult to blow anything.

The problem with the main room is that it is all concrete. I�m sorry, but as promoters (not club owners) we don�t have 200,000 lying around to buy a hardwood floor, or spend 40,000 to spray the ceiling with acoustical foam. So, we did what EAW recommended and placed 16 speakers around the room to give it a warmer feel and surround sound. So, the sound system is not a problem, we did not go �cheap� on it and I am not ashamed of saying that we as promoters went above and beyond what we should do. Do I wish I was at a venue with hardwood floors and new everything? Yes I do! It would be great to just show up, throw a party, and go home at the end of the day instead of worrying about, sound, lights, maintenance�etc. But we are not, so we make the best of what we have.

Another problem at Insomnia was their DJ booth. It is located on a balcony (where our light jockey is located). What�s the point of bringing the best djs�if nobody can see them (this is the biggest problem I had at Zei)? So we custom built the Glow DJ booth. Every guest dj LOVES the booth. Instead of dj�s being �gods� in some high far away, vip booth�they are on the same level with you. As I had hoped, the DJ-Crowd interaction has been incredible, leading to some great dj sets (In the new DJMag Top 100 issue, #9 Glow Resident Ferry Corsten said that his �gig of 2002� was Glow!). I can�t wait to see PvD in an intimate room like Glow�s in December!

Insomnia originally had 6 intelligent lights. Now it has an amazing 36 Coemar lighting fixtures, two lasers and three projectors all purchased by us.

For the last month I have not been happy with our sound system. I am not going to say it sounds like crap, because I still think its one of the best, but I think it should sound better. So, a month ago I arranged to have one of the best sound guys in the US, Bob Linkas, come and �tweak/EQ� the system. This will be done NEXT week. Thanks for your concerns, but I just wanted to state the record that we are not sitting on our asses, being greedy promoters ;-)

Pete Moutso
Music Director-Club GLOW


Posted by pyro264jb on Nov-14-2002 03:20:

Re: GLOW's sound system

quote:
Originally posted by Rhythm
Hey guys... this was posted recently on GLOW's forum coming from Pete Moutso (weekly resident dj and music director at GLOW). He talks about the sound system, it's specs, and how they're workin to fix some of the probs.

----------------------------------------------------------------

Hi, I hear your needs and I understand completely. Just to give you a brief background...we own the whole light, sound system and dj booth at insomnia. Last year when we moved the Glow party from Zei club to Insomnia we realized that changes had to be made at Insomnia. To be fair, at the time, the new owners of the venue did not have the funds to do this. So, we knew that we had to take a big risk and invest our own money to make Glow what we wanted it to be. The first thing was get a completely new sound system. I am not exaggerating when I tell you that the original system was maybe 6 mids/highs and maybe 4 sub cabinets. We had arguably the best speaker manufacturers, EAW (Eastern Acoustical Works�the same guys who make Avalon and the mids/highs of Phazon) come to Insomnia and measure the main room and recommend to us what sound to get. In other words, what you see in the main room is a custom built sound system. I made it clear that I wanted more sound/power than we needed in order to have no compression and to be able to support live bands and anything that the room would ever need. What did they make me? An awesome 42,000 (continuous) EAW sound system. To give you an idea about its power�when you hear it full blast on Saturday�s�the system is only running at � of its capabilities. We did this because; we would rather spend a lot of money up front for a great sound system�and not have to worry about blowing speakers and amps every week. And to say the sound system runs on one amp is totally absurd! This is 2002, and the days of having a designated room with fans, cooling units and 30 amps are over. Our sound system has 16 mid/high speakers all around the room to give it a surround effect and they all have built in amps. We have two 11,000 watt QSC amps running 8 double 18� sub cabinets. Everything is running on digital processing. The beauty of this system is that it has so much headroom, that it is pretty difficult to blow anything.

The problem with the main room is that it is all concrete. I�m sorry, but as promoters (not club owners) we don�t have 200,000 lying around to buy a hardwood floor, or spend 40,000 to spray the ceiling with acoustical foam. So, we did what EAW recommended and placed 16 speakers around the room to give it a warmer feel and surround sound. So, the sound system is not a problem, we did not go �cheap� on it and I am not ashamed of saying that we as promoters went above and beyond what we should do. Do I wish I was at a venue with hardwood floors and new everything? Yes I do! It would be great to just show up, throw a party, and go home at the end of the day instead of worrying about, sound, lights, maintenance�etc. But we are not, so we make the best of what we have.

Another problem at Insomnia was their DJ booth. It is located on a balcony (where our light jockey is located). What�s the point of bringing the best djs�if nobody can see them (this is the biggest problem I had at Zei)? So we custom built the Glow DJ booth. Every guest dj LOVES the booth. Instead of dj�s being �gods� in some high far away, vip booth�they are on the same level with you. As I had hoped, the DJ-Crowd interaction has been incredible, leading to some great dj sets (In the new DJMag Top 100 issue, #9 Glow Resident Ferry Corsten said that his �gig of 2002� was Glow!). I can�t wait to see PvD in an intimate room like Glow�s in December!

Insomnia originally had 6 intelligent lights. Now it has an amazing 36 Coemar lighting fixtures, two lasers and three projectors all purchased by us.

For the last month I have not been happy with our sound system. I am not going to say it sounds like crap, because I still think its one of the best, but I think it should sound better. So, a month ago I arranged to have one of the best sound guys in the US, Bob Linkas, come and �tweak/EQ� the system. This will be done NEXT week. Thanks for your concerns, but I just wanted to state the record that we are not sitting on our asses, being greedy promoters ;-)

Pete Moutso
Music Director-Club GLOW


The floors are still made out of concrete
But I hope that Paul has a good time at glow......... because next time if there is a next time I will be there.














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