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Originally posted by verndogs you're heckling my namsake?

no just the fact that they are canadian lols

We're up by a 1/2 game. I'm not that geared up for that. Last time in July we were up for one day. I want to keep winning and build a tiny cushion if we can before heading into Fenway for the last 3 games. If we're up by 2 or something, I can't see us losing. Boston's pitching has been absolutely horrific lately! Their bullpen is even worse than the Yankees which is quite hard to imagine really. But we got Gordon and Rivera. Timlin is a great middle guy but not a closer.

Let's keep our hats on for awhile. Got to keep winning day after day!

I'm hoping Yanks sneak in and all these trials and tribulations makes them more battle tested for the playoffs. They will have experienced do or die games for a month practically and won't be as susceptible to choking hopefully.

Going to the game tonight and tomorrow, my last two games of the regular season for me. Not the RF bleachers this time though...

My awards: (Not who I think will win, but who I think should win)

AL MVP
David Ortiz/Alex Rodriguez
Ortiz' #'s are better than Rodriquez'. However, everyone makes a big deal about Ortiz not playing defense. Boo hoo. But, to please everyone, including myself, I think they should be co-MVP. Both are incredibly great players. And there was a co-MVP in 1979 when Keith Hernandez and Willie Stargell both won.

NL MVP
Andruw Jones
Well duh. Leads the majors in homers and is having a crazy good year offensively. With a normal AJ year, the Braves would be fighting with the rest of the NL East for a WC spot.

AL RotY
Houston Street
There isn't a truly clear cut winner here. But Street has been almost as good as Mariano this year. He should get it over Johnny Gomes and Robinson Cano.

NL RotY
Jeff Francouer
Yeah. He hasn't been up a whole year. Yeah. He didn't walk unintentionally in over 130 ABs. But the kid is a machine. 20 years old and putting up monstrous numbers. Not to mention the crazy good arm he has. In probably half the games, he is about 3 assists behind the league leader, Cliff Floyd.

NL Cy Young
Roger Clemens
He has a sub-2.00 ERA. Fuck wins. Case closed.

AL Cy Young
Johan Santana
Again, there is no clear cut winner here. And with the White Sox guys sucking and Halladay injured, Johan deserves it again. His numbers are absurd once again.

A sub-3.00 ERA.
9.22 K/9
5.44 K/BB
0.97 WHIP

Yikes. After a not-so-good first half (3.98 ERA), he has been insane (1.64 ERA). Of course, he won't get it because Fatso has 20 wins and Johan only has 14. But the dude deserves it more than anyone else.

I think Ortiz should win the MVP. Ortiz just seems to have a lot more crucial homers/hits to win games vs. A Rod. For half the year, Pay Rod was just compiling stats when the game was 10-2 already. It seems like Ortiz always hits a homer when it's tied or when they're losing already. It's freaking uncanny how many times it happens. Ortiz would scare me more as pitcher than Pay Rod.

It's Huston Street... And he should win I agree. Same for Francouer.

I think Johan should win it because I can't think of anyone in the AL that really stood out for me.

My biggest point about Cris Carpenter for the Cy Young is that he goes deeper into games. He's pitched almost 3 more games than Roger in the same amount of starts. So that's 6 innings, 1 ER vs. 8 innings, 2 ER. I'd take the 8 innings because it doesn't leave it up to the bullpen to decide the game as much (meaning a more quality arm for longer gives the team a better chance to win). Plus it saves their arms more. But really that ERA is just on another planet. Really tough choice for me but I'm going with Carpenter by a hair. Deeper into games and very similar stat numbers anyway.

What about manager of the year? What about comeback? Do you give it to Juiceambi from coming back from being a lying cheater?

^^^^ yea but A-Rod has more to over the team then just being DH!!!! and that should count for something IMO

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Originally posted by phuzzyfish12 ^^^^ yea but A-Rod has more to over the team then just being DH!!!! and that should count for something IMO

Without Ortiz and just a regular avergage DH, the Red Sox are HORRIBLE. Without Rodriguez and just a regualar average 3B, the Yankees are still pretty damn good.

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Originally posted by Member of X My biggest point about Cris Carpenter for the Cy Young is that he goes deeper into games. He's pitched almost 3 more games than Roger in the same amount of starts. So that's 6 innings, 1 ER vs. 8 innings, 2 ER. I'd take the 8 innings because it doesn't leave it up to the bullpen to decide the game as much (meaning a more quality arm for longer gives the team a better chance to win). Plus it saves their arms more. But really that ERA is just on another planet. Really tough choice for me but I'm going with Carpenter by a hair. Deeper into games and very similar stat numbers anyway. What about manager of the year? What about comeback? Do you give it to Juiceambi from coming back from being a lying cheater?

We'll agree to disagree about Carpenter. I don't think Carpenter's IP and what not are more abnormal than Clemens' ERA. Also, call me crazy, but Pedro should get more consideration than he is going to.

As for Manager of the Year? I couldn't care less about that. BUT... I am going to go with:

AL MotY
Eric Wedge or Ken Macha.

NL MoE (Manager of Eternity)
Bobby Cox. IMO, there is no one even in his stratosphere. Of course, a lot of it has to do with Sheurholz being a bonafide genius, but that's besides the point.

Comeback of the Year AL
I would give it to Giambi... but I dunno. Something about him rubs me the wrong way. So I'll go with Richie Sexson.

Comeback of the Year NL
Man... I so bad want to give it to Cornelius. He's one of my favorite players and seeing him do as well as he has makes me really happy. However... we ALL know that Griff deserves that. So, to Griffey it goes.

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Originally posted by Shamez214 Without Ortiz and just a regular avergage DH, the Red Sox are HORRIBLE. Without Rodriguez and just a regualar average 3B, the Yankees are still pretty damn good.

That is very true. Ortiz is definitely more valuable for the Red Sox than A-Rod is for the Yankees - shit, Im sitting behind a TV screen and I get nervous for any pitcher that is pitching to him. The way he covers the batters box, to his stance, to his demeaner when hes standing in the box, just intimidates you.

You look at A-Rod, and you know you gotta be careful, but youre like - aww aint he pretty... but when you see Ortiz coming up, the only thought thats running through your head is - FUCK!

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Originally posted by Vlad That is very true. Ortiz is definitely more valuable for the Red Sox than A-Rod is for the Yankees - shit, Im sitting behind a TV screen and I get nervous for any pitcher that is pitching to him. The way he covers the batters box, to his stance, to his demeaner when hes standing in the box, just intimidates you. You look at A-Rod, and you know you gotta be careful, but youre like - aww aint he pretty... but when you see Ortiz coming up, the only thought thats running through your head is - FUCK!

Ortiz is the closest thing that the American League has to Barry Bonds.

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Originally posted by Shamez214 Ortiz is the closest thing that the American League has to Barry Bonds.

Speaking of Bonds, the guy has been back for several games, and its almost like he never left, jackin' home runs out the park like nothing. I wonder how much longer til he break's 800 - he knows he's not winning a championship, so I guess he's gonna have to settle with the home run title.

CANT WAIT FOR THE WEEKEND

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Originally posted by Vlad Speaking of Bonds, the guy has been back for several games, and its almost like he never left, jackin' home runs out the park like nothing. I wonder how much longer til he break's 800 - he knows he's not winning a championship, so I guess he's gonna have to settle with the home run title.

He won't be hitting 800. And, honestly, despite the HRs, he's not the same player he was. He's only got 1 more BB than he has walks.

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Originally posted by Shamez214 He won't be hitting 800. And, honestly, despite the HRs, he's not the same player he was. He's only got 1 more BB than he has walks.

vlad stick to college football! maybe a dh but hes untradeable with his huge contract and baggage

GARY SHEFFIELD? WHAT? maybe....lol high fastball cmon now....you serious right.....

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Originally posted by TranceHater vlad stick to college football! maybe a dh but hes untradeable with his huge contract and baggage

Well, I'm not Vlad, but Bonds is far from 'untradeable.' It's a one year deal for 20M. And we all see the impact that he has on a team.

I'm gonna light myself on fire if I continue to watch the Yankees middle relievers....

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Originally posted by Member of X I'm gonna light myself on fire if I continue to watch the Yankees middle relievers....

+1

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Originally posted by kid nyce +1

Can anybody get a freakin out other than Mo and gorden!

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Originally posted by TranceHater Can anybody get a freakin out other than Mo and gorden!

AL LEITER BABY lols...

its funny how you can have a guy like gary sheffield hit 2 homer runs (one of which is a grand slam) and at the same time lose the game. i don't know how that works, ain't grand slams suppose to make everyone else rise to the occassion? doesn't it amp up pitchers to feel like they own this game? I dunno maybe it has to do with their subconcious but when i pitched in highschool and my boys were smacking the shit out of the ball, i felt like this game was mine every inning i went out there. when the bats speak, you should have ever confidence in your team to support you so they need to go out there, throw strikes, and make them hit ground balls.

pitchers these days, i don't know...

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Originally posted by kid nyce AL LEITER BABY lols... its funny how you can have a guy like gary sheffield hit 2 homer runs (one of which is a grand slam) and at the same time lose the game. i don't know how that works, ain't grand slams suppose to make everyone else rise to the occassion? doesn't it amp up pitchers to feel like they own this game? I dunno maybe it has to do with their subconcious but when i pitched in highschool and my boys were smacking the shit out of the ball, i felt like this game was mine every inning i went out there. when the bats speak, you should have ever confidence in your team to support you so they need to go out there, throw strikes, and make them hit ground balls. pitchers these days, i don't know...

Leiter and mussina are too old to remember HS. They scored enough runs to win, but I agree when i used to play hitting pumped up the pitchers not these guys

BTW al leiter should retire TODAY!

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Originally posted by Member of X I'm gonna light myself on fire if I continue to watch the Yankees middle relievers....

omg if u were talkin about LAST night vs. the Orioles, hell fuckin yeah +1 a promising start (that first run and then that grand slam) that was later rendered meaningless. ehhh

this weekend
Sox vs. Yanks: whose bullpen is worse?

I LOVE Chaka Cone... he's been quite an amazing steal from Colorado!!

Its only proper that the 1000th post in this baseball thread be...



LETS GO YANKEES!!!

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