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| Originally posted by exstasie you don't need one anymore with Rogers either. I believe this is a result of all the bad press that was brought on by ruinediphone.com and other media outlets! |
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| Originally posted by exstasie PS. I don't understand why Rogers is taking so much heat. So far, from what I've seen, every country that has offered the iPhone (Besides US & UK) have horrible rates... Check out New Zealand: |
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| Originally posted by exstasie Select Rogers Plus stores to open early coast-to-coast on July 11 Launch promotions to include limited time 6GB data offer http://micro.newswire.ca/release.cg...=5804-0&Start=0 Effective July 11, and as a limited time promotional offer for customers who activate by August 31 on a three year contract, a data-only offering of 6GB of data for $30 per month is being made available that can be added to any in-market voice plan. For example, with 6GB of data, iPhone 3G users can visit 35,952 web pages, or send and receive 157,286 emails, or watch 6,292 minutes of YouTube videos each and every month.(xx) New Canadian iPhone 3G customers will also have the choice to select from Rogers Wireless' existing voice and smartphone data plans and/or additional features to best suit their needs, or from Rogers Wireless' value bundled plans specifically for iPhone 3G. Existing Rogers Wireless customers can keep their current voice service plan and select a separate data plan to meet their needs or choose from other plans after checking their individual upgrade eligibility. PS. THIS IS ALSO AVAILABLE ON FIDO... I think Rogers/Fido have finally hit a homerun with the iPhone, considering you can use your current voice plan... |
still no unlimited data, and this offer is only for activations prior to August 31st., but it seems like Rogers is reacting to all the negative publicity by putting a 'band-aid' on the problem to appease early adopters. Check out the areas highlighted in yellow.
You really gotta wonder the choice of words.. you can almost smell their arrogance and contempt of the new age consumer
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Rogers caves on iPhone pricing
July 09, 2008
CHRIS SORENSEN
BUSINESS REPORTER
Rogers Communications Inc. has thrown a bone to potential iPhone customers by offering a limited-time promotional data rate plan that should silence complaints about Canadian pricing for the eagerly-anticipated device.
The wireless giant said today it would give iPhone subscribers who sign up before Aug. 31 the option of purchasing a 6-gigabyte data plan for $30 per month in addition to any voice plan.
While that still doesn�t match the unlimited data plans offered in the United States by AT&T Inc., the promotion offers significantly better value than the rate plans Rogers unveiled earlier this month.
Under that pricing model, the cheapest plan offered just 400 megabytes of data, 150 minutes of weekday talk time and unlimited evenings and weekends for $60 per month plus fees and taxes.
The plans immediately sparked protest in some quarters of the Internet from users who argued the iPhone�s focus on mobile Web browsing and multimedia would quickly propel users over their caps, leaving with hefty overage charges at the end of each month.
John Boynton, the senior vice-president and chief marketing officer of Rogers Wireless, said in an interview the promotional offer is in response to customer concerns.
�We�re responding to our customers that gave us a lot of feedback,� he said, adding that rumours about a spat with Apple over pricing or a limited supply of iPhones were false.
He said Rogers is expecting record sales following the iPhone�s launch on Friday at six Rogers stores across the country, including a Rogers store on Dundas St. in Toronto.
�This will be best-selling phone in Canadian history.�
He added that the 6-gigabyte promotional offer won�t be limited to the iPhone, but will be available on all devices that run on Rogers third generation, or 3G, wireless network. That includes the soon-to-be launched BlackBerry Bold.
Boynton said existing price plans for the iPhone will go back into effect Sept. 1.
�What we�re trying to do is satisfy a very small group of people, the early adopters,� he said. �When those customers are done, we�re back to our basic user.�
Meanwhile, rivals Bell Canada Inc. and Telus Corp. have stepped into a pricing controversy of their own after telling customers they would be charged 15 cents for every text message they receive beginning next month.
At present, subscribers are only charged for outgoing text messages. Users who opt for a plan that includes text messaging won�t be affected.
The phone companies say the move is necessary because of the explosive growth in the popularity of text messaging among Canadians.
While the change would put the Canadian carriers in line with U.S. wireless operators that charge 20 cents per message, some are complaining that it�s a cash grab and that subscribers will be unfairly penalized for cell phone spam.
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http://www.thestar.com/News/article/457180
remember that this is only available on a 3 YEAR CONTRACT
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Rogers/Fido Data users rejoice!
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1395592
According to this you can now get 6GB of data for $30. This 6GB is not IMEI restricted so you can use it on your unlocked gray market phones. You can do whatever you want with it - WAP, tethering, YouTube, etc. Hurray!
The post says it�s for Fido but apparently it will be on Rogers too. Just remember you have to sign a 3 year contract.
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| Originally posted by dEsidEL [color=white] still no unlimited data, and this offer is only for activations prior to August 31st. |
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| Originally posted by harcourt There will never be an unlimited data plan. Other providers don't have one either, they just call it unlimited under the 'fair use' policy. So one disguises it, the other calls it what it is. I think it's pretty fair. |
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| Originally posted by harcourt There will never be an unlimited data plan. Other providers don't have one either, they just call it unlimited under the 'fair use' policy. So one disguises it, the other calls it what it is. I think it's pretty fair. |
Oh man 6GB for $30? Thats $5/gig. For your home connection you pay $45 for 60GB, which is $0.75/gig. That's about 7x the price. I guess if having youtube where ever you go is that important to you, its your money!
I understand one is wireless and one is wired, but I am just amazed people are willing to spend that kind of money. If you are a business person, or if your company is paying for your data so you can work, its great. But the average consumer's life has not changed so dramatically that they need to be connected on the go everywhere.
So the saying is true: 'if you build it, they will come'.
Just to let you guys know, right now Rogers has one of (if not THE) best data rates in the world right now.
AT&T in the US has $30 Unlimited Data, except that it has a soft cap of 5GB.
I'm not sure what the cap is for the UK carriers, but Rogers definitely has one of the most competitive rates for data usage. PS, you can tether on this plan!
The only major issue is that this is only a limited promotion until the end of August and not permanent.
hilarious .. you really gotta wonder whether Bell and Telus may have planned their announcements in line with all the negative press that Rogers has been getting for their iPhone 3G data rates to help deflect the attention ..
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Ottawa calls Bell, Telus on carpet
July 09, 2008
Allan Woods
Ottawa Bureau
OTTAWA�The federal Industry Minister is calling the chiefs of Bell Mobility and Telus to a meeting to explain an "ill-thought out decision" to charge cell phone users for incoming text messages.
Jim Prentice issued a statement saying he doesn't want to interfere in the operations of two private companies but has "serious concerns" that they will begin charging customers 15 cents for text messages they receive starting next month.
Bell plans to levy the new charge starting Aug. 8. Telus will follow suit Aug. 24.
"I do have a duty as Minister of Industry, when necessary, to protect the interests of the consuming public," Prentice wrote in a statement. "I believe this was an ill-thought-out decision."
One of the chief concerns is that cell-phone users, particularly the young, will be charged for spam text messages that they receive.
According to the Canadian Wireless Telecommunications Association, an average of 45.3-million text messages are sent by Canadians each day.
Spokespeople for the two firms have said that customers can contact them to have charges for spam messages deleted from their bills. Heavy text message users also have the option of signing up for a special plan that could reduce overall costs.
Prentice has sent letters to the chief executives of the two companies asking for a meeting before the new charges come into effect Aug. 8 to explain the decision "with a view to finding a solution that provides the best service to consumers at the best price."
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http://www.thestar.com/News/GTA/article/457302
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| Originally posted by exstasie Just to let you guys know, right now Rogers has one of (if not THE) best data rates in the world right now. AT&T in the US has $30 Unlimited Data, except that it has a soft cap of 5GB. I'm not sure what the cap is for the UK carriers, but Rogers definitely has one of the most competitive rates for data usage. PS, you can tether on this plan! The only major issue is that this is only a limited promotion until the end of August and not permanent. |
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John Boynton, the senior vice-president and chief marketing officer of Rogers Wireless, said in an interview the promotional offer is in response to customer concerns. �What we�re trying to do is satisfy a very small group of people, the early adopters,� he said. �When those customers are done, we�re back to our basic user.� |
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| Originally posted by Orko Finally you listen to reason and get a Nokia. They make the best phones, hands down. Maybe not the best media centers, but everything to do with phoning is top notch. |
It's rumoured that the prepaid iPhone will be $730. What a waste of money.
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| Originally posted by me@t k@tie It's rumoured that the prepaid iPhone will be $730. What a waste of money. |
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| Originally posted by me@t k@tie It's rumoured that the prepaid iPhone will be $730. What a waste of money. |
my biggest concern: will the iphone last the 3 years????
My phones never last more than one year... how will this be different?
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| Originally posted by malek my biggest concern: will the iphone last the 3 years???? My phones never last more than one year... how will this be different? |
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| Originally posted by exstasie You pay for another one...or you just start using a different phone? No different than if you signed a 3-year contract with any other phone. |
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| Originally posted by malek yes but that first iphone is subsidized at 200$, the next ones won't cost me that cheap... do you see my drift here? especially if they charge 700$ for one without a contract. |
I am going out like a grizzly!
I am going to add 4 lines to my account, "mysteriously" loose all 4 iphones then cancel all 4 added lines before the "grace" period.
I just hope they sell out FAST!
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| Originally posted by malek my biggest concern: will the iphone last the 3 years???? My phones never last more than one year... how will this be different? |
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| Originally posted by exstasie I definitely get what your saying, But its no different than any other phone. It's just like a blackberry. You can get the curve subsidized for $199, but to buy a brand new one is over $500. All phones are crazily subsized. Those phones that you get for $0 cost around $250 without a contract, because the cell companies make all of their money by locking you into long term contracts. Say you have 1-year left on your contract and lose your phone, you either buy a brand new one from a little chinese man on the street, or you can buy a new one from Rogers, and they'll give you $100-$200 off called a HUP (Hardware Upgrade Plan). The amount you will get back for a HUP depends on how much time you have left on your contract. This will cause you to re-new your contract, and you start back again at the beginning of 3-years. Or, you just use a crappy phone for like $5 for the remainder of your contract and then get another new iPhone for the original $299. OR, you can talk to a CSR (Customer Sales Representative) and *negotiate* some kind of deal and they may give your more towards the phone or something like that. |
I don't work in construction, but my phone is in a pretty bad shape after a year too. It's just wear and tear - I don't baby my phone.
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| Originally posted by malek i know all that, my concern is that you'll be stuck with a 30$ data plan and don't have the phone to use it for... |
In most cases, the contract does not stipulate that you have to continue on the same plan for 3 years, but simply that you are contracted to the carrier for three years, what ever the plan.
This is what I was told by a Rogers rep about 2 years ago, and sure enough it was true. I was able to change my plan no problem but I had to stay with the company. Another one of my friends went through the same thing.
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| Originally posted by Orko In most cases, the contract does not stipulate that you have to continue on the same plan for 3 years, but simply that you are contracted to the carrier for three years, what ever the plan. This is what I was told by a Rogers rep about 2 years ago, and sure enough it was true. I was able to change my plan no problem but I had to stay with the company. Another one of my friends went through the same thing. |
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