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Originally posted by jerZ07002 I agree that we should go for Rowand. Actually the phillies are looking to shop him now. Cashman should see what he can get for him. I've heard the phils have no luck talking deals for rowand at this point. If we can't get rowand, i wouldn't be opposed to the yankees going for eric byrnes. He will be far cheaper than any of them, and he plays the outfield with reckless abandonment. Plus he's having a phenominal season offensively, and the Dbacks can't sign him because he wants too much money from them. Byrnes will definitely bring the biggest bang for the buck.

I love Byrnes. The guys is so fucking cool, I think he would be a hit in NY. He is the kind of guy that NY needs to bring... cool, someone the fans can really connect with.


Edit: Hes also a long term solution for the outfield.

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Originally posted by steven-neil Melke is the best LF in the whole league we dont need one...We just got to figure out what to do with Matsui..Not only that,,,he's a better CF than Damon

Melke still needs to develop, defensively hes great, offensively far far too inconsistent. You cant look at last seasons numbers and expect that to happen. He has the potential, but hes still young and you can see his youth in his at-bats.


Edit: He has the wrong people rubbing off on him... He looks alot like Damon at the plate. Bring in Rowand and Byrnes, you will see Melke turn around.

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Originally posted by Vlad Melke still needs to develop, defensively hes great, offensively far far too inconsistent. You cant look at last seasons numbers and expect that to happen. He has the potential, but hes still young and you can see his youth in his at-bats.

Melke should be in center or right not left. left field is usually reserved for the weakest outfielder.

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Originally posted by Vlad Melke still needs to develop, defensively hes great, offensively far far too inconsistent. You cant look at last seasons numbers and expect that to happen. He has the potential, but hes still young and you can see his youth in his at-bats.

Ok,,,Vlad and James...who stays,,who goes....

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Originally posted by steven-neil Ok,,,Vlad and James...who stays,,who goes....

Who goes? Easy.
- Damon, Giambi, Abreu.

Matsui should be moved to DH. Melke should play RF with that cannon he has. Rowand in CF, Byrnes in LF.

On a side note, with the exception of Wang and Hughes, the entire pitching rotation needs to go. Cashman needs to start looking for a new closer, which would be a good reason why he should start looking now since they are on the market.

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Originally posted by steven-neil Ok,,,Vlad and James...who stays,,who goes....

There's really nothing we can do because these contracts are way too big for other teams to pick up. That said, i would like to see Abreu, Damon, and Giambi gone. Abreu is the only one i think is really going to be out of here next year.

What i would like to see is: matsui play out his contract in LF, Melke move to RF and work with Mattingly on his hitting, and go for Rowand in CF (and if not i like Byrnes, then hunter).

The infield is fine with AROD, Jeter, and Cano. We still have a hole at 1B, but i have no idea what we can get at that spot. There's nothing really on the FA market this offseason. I would love to see Teixiera there, but that doesn't seem feasible.

Pitching: farnsworth (gone), Mussina (gone), Igawa (whatever), Clemens (horrible move), Pettitte(he's showing us why houston didn't offer for him). We seriously need to do something, but i don't know what the pitching market looks like. I'll have to get back to you on this.

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 Pitching: farnsworth (gone), Mussina (gone), Igawa (whatever), Clemens (horrible move), Pettitte(he's showing us why houston didn't offer for him). We seriously need to do something, but i don't know what the pitching market looks like. I'll have to get back to you on this.

There really is no pitching market besides closers. SPs that are on the market are asking too high a price.

Vlad we're definitely on the same page. There's just no way we can move giambi and damon, so getting two outfielders and moving matsui to DH is not realistic. Altough ideally i would like to see two new outfielders.

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Originally posted by Vlad There really is no pitching market besides closers. SPs that are on the market are asking too high a price.

good point about picking up a closer now....any of these guys on the FA market this offseason?

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 Vlad we're definitely on the same page. There's just no way we can move giambi and damon, so getting two outfielders and moving matsui to DH is not realistic. Altough ideally i would like to see two new outfielders.

Unfortunately, that is fact. But I think Id rather have Byrnes instead of Rowand, his youth is a plus, hes got an upside unlike Rowand who is at his plataeu... and hes just an awesome guy.

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Originally posted by Vlad Unfortunately, that is fact. But I think Id rather have Byrnes instead of Rowand, his youth is a plus, hes got an upside unlike Rowand who is at his plataeu... and hes just an awesome guy.

Rowand is 29, and Byrnes is 31. rowand is a career .286 batter who's showing a little power this year. i prefer rowand

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 We still have a hole at 1B, but i have no idea what we can get at that spot.

whats wrong with Philips and what do you do with people like Cairo..

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Originally posted by steven-neil whats wrong with Philips and what do you do with people like Cairo..

cairo is a great utility man....we keep him. If philips has a good year from this point on, maybe we have a solution. The problem with philips is torre never gave him a shot to prove himself. I hope he does well because i like him and he's relatively young 27 i think, and he certainly doesn't have a big head.

Our championship teams were filled with role players. we need to get back to that. enough already with building a team with superstars.

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 good point about picking up a closer now....any of these guys on the FA market this offseason?

1. Armando Benitez. No.
2. Octavio Dotel. No.
3. Francisco Cordero. He was driven out of the AL. No.
4. Joe Nathan. YES!
5. Jason Isringhausen. No.
6. Eric Gagne. Only as a setup guy.

Side note.

Scott Linebrink is a FA, he would be a nice pickup for the bullpen.

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 cairo is a great utility man....we keep him. If philips has a good year from this point on, maybe we have a solution. The problem with philips is torre never gave him a shot to prove himself. I hope he does well because i like him and he's relatively young 27 i think, and he certainly doesn't have a big head. Our championship teams were filled with role players. we need to get back to that. enough already with building a team with superstars.

So youre both agreed on who should stay and who should go..and youre both agreed on who we need....have we got a chance of getting them...

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Originally posted by steven-neil So youre both agreed on who should stay and who should go..and youre both agreed on who we need....have we got a chance of getting them...

Sry James, I misread the DOB's.

We definitely have a shot at Rowand.

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Originally posted by Vlad 1. Armando Benitez. No. 2. Octavio Dotel. No. 3. Francisco Cordero. He was driven out of the AL. No. 4. Joe Nathan. YES! 5. Jason Isringhausen. No. 6. Eric Gagne. Only as a setup guy. Side note. Scott Linebrink is a FA, he would be a nice pickup for the bullpen.

Haha...remember we had dotel last year and he pitched all of 3 games or something like that. what a waste of one million.

i agree with nathan.


Steven....we have a shot with the outfielders because they are free agents at the end of the season. As for pitchers, i'm at a loss. hopefully we can find some internal solutions.

I just checked the relief pitching free agent market this offseason, it doesn't look good. We have to trade for someone. It looks like cordero is teh best FA on the offseason market

Yankee FAs:

Bobby Abreu - bye
Jim Brower - bye
Miguel Cairo - shrugs
Roger Clemens - shrugs
Erubiel Durazo - bye
Terrence Long - bye
Doug Mientkiewicz - bye
Mike Myers - stay
Jeff Nelson - retired
Andy Pettitte - one more year
Jorge Posada - retire in pinstripes
Todd Pratt - bye
Mariano Rivera - retire in pinstripes
Alex Rodriguez - retire in pinstripes
Ron Villone - bye
Luis Vizcaino - bye

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Originally posted by Vlad Yankee FAs: Bobby Abreu - bye Jim Brower - bye Miguel Cairo - shrugs Roger Clemens - shrugs Erubiel Durazo - bye Terrence Long - bye Doug Mientkiewicz - bye Mike Myers - stay Jeff Nelson - retired Andy Pettitte - one more year Jorge Posada - retire in pinstripes Todd Pratt - bye Mariano Rivera - retire in pinstripes Alex Rodriguez - retire in pinstripes Ron Villone - bye Luis Vizcaino - bye

i don't agree with Vizcaino. he looks to be improving when torre doesn't overwork him.

i think our bullpen could improve if used the correct way...torre sucks at managing the bullpen.

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 i think our bullpen could improve if used the correct way...torre sucks at managing the bullpen.

I couldnt agree more.

Edit: The proof is in the 2+ innings Mike Myers pitched today.

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Originally posted by Vlad I couldnt agree more.

he needs to let the starters go deeper into games, and maybe get out of their own messes. He needs to stop using proctor every day. He needs to bring in the worst pitchers in the mop up situations. He needs to stop bringing in farnsworth, period.

on a side note, i think we can unload farnsworth to an NL team.

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Originally posted by Vlad I couldnt agree more.

quick change of topic for a minute...Sheila wants to know why you aint studying...and i wanna know why james aint studying....

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Originally posted by steven-neil quick change of topic for a minute...Sheila wants to know why you aint studying...and i wanna know why james aint studying....

good point, i should be studying. im so fucking lazy.

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Originally posted by steven-neil quick change of topic for a minute...Sheila wants to know why you aint studying...and i wanna know why james aint studying....

i was at the library working since noon, and i was studying the whole time until i started chatting it up with you and vlad. I was actually kicked out of the lib at midnight. tomorrow its back to the library at 9am - midnight.

Thanks for the concern.

Vlad, you taking the MCAT on the 24th? Good luck bro, i'll be in hell with you. That's the first day of my bar exam.

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 Vlad, you taking the MCAT on the 24th? Good luck bro, i'll be in hell with you. That's the first day of my bar exam.

Yea man, Ive been taking it alittle too easy though. Sat-Mon Ill be putting the pressure on, since thats when I shine.

For some reason I think alot better and clearer under pressure. I guess thats why surgury fits me.

Good luck to you as well.

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