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Posted by diego on Jan-05-2005 21:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
well...recipe?


half a litre of milk (think i'll up it to 3/4 / 1 litre milk when i get back on my bulking diet)
quarter litre of full fat cream
2 scoops protein 90
2 scoops mass builder

bleedin' delish


Posted by Michael19 on Jan-05-2005 21:26:

QUOTE]Before I can answer that need your current height, weight, body type (fat, avg, slim) and your goal/ideal body type[/QUOTE]



my height is about 5'6 or 7, think i am 55kgs or 60, no weighing scales in the gaff

body type is slim. ideally to be a bit bigger, wouldnt say no to a 6 pack either!


joined LA fitness, dont think theres a westwood near me.


Posted by Ygrene on Jan-05-2005 21:28:

Here's a post-workout shake I used to make:

16 ice cubes
2 cups milk
1 banana
1 scoop chocolate whey protein
1 tablespoon vanilla

and every now and then I'd a couple tablespoons of peanut butter

Oh man that shake was the bomb


Posted by diego on Jan-05-2005 21:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Michael19
QUOTE]Before I can answer that need your current height, weight, body type (fat, avg, slim) and your goal/ideal body type


my height is about 5'6 or 7, think i am 55kgs or 60, no weighing scales in the gaff

body type is slim. ideally to be a bit bigger, wouldnt say no to a 6 pack either!


joined LA fitness, dont think theres a westwood near me.


make your goals specific, like how lean, what weight, what measurements, it makes it easier to know what you need to do to get where your going and when you've got there


Posted by Orbax on Jan-05-2005 21:36:

pics help to

uhm lessee here... thats really skinny.

Eat a SMALL meal like a cup full of food thats mostly carbs and some protein. I like a piece of toast with about 3 slices of meat on it.

Drink a glass of water and digest for 45 min.

I usually have a cup of coffee about an hour before as well.

just drink water during the workout and then after drink TONS. Eat a protein bar and go on a run if you want to see how much water gets sucked up by protein haha. You need lots of it. At least a gallon or two a day.

after (within 45 min!!) is a protein bomb like some home made hamburgers, or fish, or a protein drink.

beware though, if you arent working out really hard and then eat tons of protein itll turn to fat. But youll neeed that fat to have more energy to gain weight... its a cycle. Try to get fat and chubby for a month or so then start leaning down and focusing more on protein than carbs...

but carbs are GOOD for energy gives you a better work out...


my 2c. Im a lean fellow myself so gaining mass has always been a challenge and I had to eat fatty, carbed out food to gain weight.


Posted by diego on Jan-05-2005 21:38:

i've been told drinking water with meals disrupts digestion


Posted by Michael19 on Jan-05-2005 21:39:

quote:
Originally posted by diego
make your goals specific, like how lean, what weight, what measurements, it makes it easier to know what you need to do to get where your going and when you've got there




i'll have to get my full measurements, then i will stick them up and go from there.


dont really how a specific worry about weight, if i lose some or gain some it would matter. i suppose i would just like to look more definied, haha probaly no help at tall with out the measurements!


Posted by Orbax on Jan-05-2005 21:39:

lol dunno. have a glass of wine then hehe


Posted by diego on Jan-05-2005 21:43:

the idea is that if you drink water with meals, the body thinks it's getting all this liquid so it doesn't bother producing saliva, i don't drink water for an hour after meals and a half hour before


Posted by Floorfiller on Jan-05-2005 21:45:

yeah...everyone should drink tons of water...i think the most i've ever drank was 3 gallons in a day, but you should be definitely hitting the one gallon mark easily...


Posted by Michael19 on Jan-05-2005 21:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
pics help to

uhm lessee here... thats really skinny.

Eat a SMALL meal like a cup full of food thats mostly carbs and some protein. I like a piece of toast with about 3 slices of meat on it.

Drink a glass of water and digest for 45 min.

I usually have a cup of coffee about an hour before as well.

just drink water during the workout and then after drink TONS. Eat a protein bar and go on a run if you want to see how much water gets sucked up by protein haha. You need lots of it. At least a gallon or two a day.

after (within 45 min!!) is a protein bomb like some home made hamburgers, or fish, or a protein drink.

beware though, if you arent working out really hard and then eat tons of protein itll turn to fat. But youll neeed that fat to have more energy to gain weight... its a cycle. Try to get fat and chubby for a month or so then start leaning down and focusing more on protein than carbs...

but carbs are GOOD for energy gives you a better work out...


my 2c. Im a lean fellow myself so gaining mass has always been a challenge and I had to eat fatty, carbed out food to gain weight.



cheers, seems some good advice there!

yea, always been real skinny, and had a very small frame.

i will try gets pics tomorrow, i will pm them to you, no way am i sticking them up in this thread!


Posted by N|te-L|fe on Jan-05-2005 23:29:

my question is... will water help you loose weight?

In some way I feel like since I began drinking more I "evacuate" more often, it feels like water is cleaning my body and accelerating the food digestion process... guess it has to help in some way..


Posted by Floorfiller on Jan-05-2005 23:36:

quote:
Originally posted by N|te-L|fe
my question is... will water help you loose weight?

In some way I feel like since I began drinking more I "evacuate" more often, it feels like water is cleaning my body and accelerating the food digestion process... guess it has to help in some way..


it is cleaning your body. drinking lots of water cleans out your kidneys and keeps things working well...i don't know if it accelerates the food digestion process, but it is great to drink a lot. i don't know about it helping you loose weight, but i would say it promotes an overall feeling of health because you're system is clean and hydrated...


Posted by Orbax on Jan-05-2005 23:48:



my second meal "dinner" 3 scrambled eggs and a cup of split pea soup. For breakfast I had 2 eggs and half a cup of already cooked pasta. so like 4 bites hehe. Ive had a pot of coffee and a gallon water.

I just got back from a 3.5 mile run TO the gym where I did

4x20 with 90 lbs on seated row
4x15 with 15 lb DBs of lateral shoulder raises
4x20 with 15 lb DBs bicep curls
4x12 with 60 lb DB side bends
4x15 with 100 lb on machine for kneeling stomach crunches

and then ran BACK home

was about 30 degrees out

uhm.

as far as water, it takes calories to heat up and process, but its main benefit is that of purification and providing a neutral chemical bath in which reactions can take place in (thats why you also need to have salts and minerals in diet because whole body runs off of salt water/chlorine bath stuff )


Posted by N|te-L|fe on Jan-05-2005 23:50:

you really like that webcam do you


Posted by Orbax on Jan-05-2005 23:52:

lol yeah adds interactivity or sumfin


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Jan-06-2005 14:59:

ok i decided to take the pics today.. the stats as of these pics

im at 141 lbs.. 5"11, not an all time high but none the less..









Posted by Steven Hays on Jan-06-2005 15:25:

Hey Orbax, are you looking to build or tone?


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Jan-06-2005 15:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Steven Hays
Hey Orbax, are you looking to build or tone?



judgeing by his weights and reps it looks like hes trying to tone..


Posted by Floorfiller on Jan-06-2005 17:22:

alright fuck it...here are the pics i was trying to hide from hahahaa....yes i know i'm fat right now...but that's alright...it'll be gone by the next pictures...that's just what happens when you're depressed for six months...sorry to disappoint...next pics will be better i promise hehe...




Height: 6'
Weight: 191
Chest: 42
Waist: 34
Left Bicep: 15 1/4
Left Forearm: 12
Right Bicep: 15
Right Forarm: 11 7/8
Left Thigh: 24.5
Left Calf: 15
Right Thigh: 24.5
Right Calf: 15





Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Jan-06-2005 18:00:

not bad your triceps are comming in nicely, as well as your obliques !


Posted by Floorfiller on Jan-06-2005 18:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
not bad your triceps are comming in nicely, as well as your obliques !


there is a lot of hard work buried under that layer of neglect hehehe...hopefully everyone will see when the next pics come about...


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Jan-06-2005 18:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
there is a lot of hard work buried under that layer of neglect hehehe...hopefully everyone will see when the next pics come about...


haha.. gimme some of that neglect

what are your stats as of now height and weight?


Posted by Floorfiller on Jan-06-2005 18:16:

right now...i'm around 190...6'ish...


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Jan-06-2005 18:26:

not bad.. keep up the good work.. you probably want to keep at around that weight and maybe just tone up a tad


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