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Posted by Chris Allen on Jul-11-2008 21:04:

Was there at 9am, there was a line.

Rogers servers crashed at 9:30, thus nobody got a phone.

I managed to get into corporate office as a selected customer with 7 other customers. Ordered the iPhone, but since I'm upgrading they would need to call it in to a separate line instead of the normal activation (after 2hrs on hold it was going no-where).

At this point, once everyone had filled out their paperwork, Rogers servers crashed yet again.

I ended up leaving at 2pm and corporate office is going to call me when it's ready to go.

Rogers really didn't plan correctly for this thing (surprise surprise) as though the O2 and China networks crashed, they were back running soon there-after while Rogers is still struggling.

Through conversation however, I did get some information from them that could provide useful for you guys:

- Out of contract iPhone in Canada will run you $850.
- If they sell out of contract iPhones at this time, the store will be prevented from selling them altogether and fined by Apple.
- Shipments WERE re-routed to Europe as rumored, and the stores are only receiving 50 phones max at each delivery (the store I was at was sent 38).
- Next delivery is expected in 2 weeks, though could be longer.

- Corporate office is loads better than the monkeys they have working at their retail outlets

- Blackberry Bold is going to be $500+ with a contract (as far as they know at this point)

But, I DO have my iPhone as it's sitting there waiting to be activated and I have to say it was great finally getting a hold of it, even if it is a brick at the moment. Sitting in a room with 8 iPhones (2 16GB black, 2 16GB white, 4 8GB black) was pretty cool considering there were hundreds of people downstairs begging for them. Looking forward to whenever Rogers can sort out their activation situation so I can actually go ahead and use the phone

Point of interest; it was funny how the security guards kept trying to organize the line of people down the mall like we were being problematic. People were extremely polite and letting anyone through or into any of the stores, everyone was also very quiet, but the security guard was screaming at everyone. Was great when one of the people in the back yelled back at her "we're a bunch of nerds, what could we possibly do?"


Posted by VERTiG0 on Jul-11-2008 21:55:

lol apple lol

It was the iTunes activation servers that crashed. Or did Rogers' shit crash too? That rules.

Hahah, iPhones.


Posted by Jem_hadar on Jul-11-2008 22:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Chris Allen
Was great when one of the people in the back yelled back at her "we're a bunch of nerds, what could we possibly do?"


BWHAHAHAHA


Posted by dEsidEL on Jul-11-2008 22:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Chris Allen

But, I DO have my iPhone as it's sitting there waiting to be activated and I have to say it was great finally getting a hold of it, even if it is a brick at the moment. Sitting in a room with 8 iPhones (2 16GB black, 2 16GB white, 4 8GB black) was pretty cool considering there were hundreds of people downstairs begging for them. Looking forward to whenever Rogers can sort out their activation situation so I can actually go ahead and use the phone




i assume you plan on flipping them?


Posted by VDub on Jul-11-2008 22:14:

Costco's all over the city have iphones in stock...

Ppl got peeved with the morning crash and left without their phones...

Heartland has like 10...8 and 16 gigs..

I got mine from Rogers on the phone to be delivered Tuesday...


And ppl lined up since yesterday...lol...


Posted by dEsidEL on Jul-11-2008 22:36:


quote:



iPhone buzz fails to calm investors

Apple smartphone launched today against backdrop of new competitors
July 11, 2008
Chris Sorensen
Business Reporter

Rogers Communications Inc. is poised to reap the rewards of the most eagerly anticipated product launch in Canadian wireless history, but the coming of the iPhone has done little to soothe investor fears about the prospect of a more competitive industry down the road.

Shares of Rogers have slumped more than 13 per cent since chief executive Ted Rogers revealed in late April he had a deal to bring Apple Inc.'s iPhone to Canada.

The decline comes despite predictions by some analysts that Rogers' launch of the iPhone today across Canada will boost the growth of new post-paid subscriber accounts by 20 per cent over the next year.

John Henderson, an analyst at Scotia Capital, said yesterday he expects the iPhone to snare "at least" 100,000 more monthly-contract customers from Bell, Telus and other Canadian wireless providers over the next 12 months.

Rogers forecast in January an increase of 550,000 to 625,000 postpaid subscribers in 2008 before the deal with Apple � which is rolling out the iPhone in 22 nations today � was announced.

Henderson also predicted that Rogers and its Fido subsidiary would sell another 100,000 to 150,000 iPhones to its existing subscriber base of 7.4 million.

While some have attempted to link the slumping stock price with consumer dissatisfaction over Rogers' iPhone rate plans, Henderson said in a recent note the real culprit is the uncertainty created by the threat of new wireless competitors emerging as the result of Ottawa's wireless spectrum auction.

The process, which is nearing its final stage, was designed by the federal government to encourage new entrants to challenge the dominance of Rogers, Bell Canada Inc. and Telus Corp.

That's potentially good news for consumers, but bad news for Rogers and its current monopoly on GSM wireless technology, which gave it exclusive access to the iPhone in Canada.

Shares of Telus have also fallen more than 10 per cent over the past few months amid similar competition concerns. Analysts, though, are split about the impact of more competition on the existing players.

While some have argued that lower prices are inevitable, others such as National Bank Financial's Greg MacDonald say intense auction bidding � the total value of bids is nearly $4.2 billion, about double original estimates � means any new players will have far less money to throw around.

"Given the relatively high spectrum bill for the new entrants, we suspect they will look to partner as much as possible on network deployment and may even be less aggressive on pricing than the market currently assumes," MacDonald argued in a note to clients this week.

The biggest threat comes from Globalive Communications Inc., which is being backed by deep-pocketed European investors with previous experience in the wireless industry. The parent of the Yak long-distance service has successfully bid on licences across the country, with the notable exception of Quebec, and is expected to launch a GSM-based service.Another question mark hanging over the industry is the future of Bell Canada, whose parent is in the process of being taken over for $52 billion, including debt, by the Ontario Teachers' Pension Plan and U.S. private equity investors.


source:
http://www.thestar.com/Business/article/458316


Posted by malek on Jul-11-2008 23:16:

got the samsun jack for 80$ with 2 years contract, unlmtd emails comes free because of a 15$/month credit i got and i get 50 more mins.

Not bad, all i want is emails anyways, surfing on the mobile is ghey.


Posted by E2EK1EL on Jul-12-2008 06:35:

quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL
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lol .. check out of the video the launch at Yonge and Dundas this morning:


That line was shit ... japan and NYC had nice massive lines.


Posted by Chris Allen on Jul-12-2008 09:28:

quote:
Originally posted by VERTiG0
lol apple lol

It was the iTunes activation servers that crashed. Or did Rogers' shit crash too? That rules.

Hahah, iPhones.

Nope, Rogers crashed bigtime too. First it was a general outage from too many people trying to activate, and then the entire system went tits up.

Combine that with iTunes being hammered for activation and you have a shit-storm of a day.


Posted by Chris Allen on Jul-13-2008 23:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Z
that blackberry is photoshopped, it doesn't actually exist


Touchscreen BlackBerry Thunder First Live Shots



The burning question answered: What does the touchscreen BlackBerry's keyboard look like? As rumored, landscape gets you full QWERTY, while portrait mode drops you to SureType to squeeze in all the buttons. It's straightforwardly utilitarian�taking up a massive amount of screen real estate, it definitely lacks in the glitz department, so I'm hoping they sex it up a bit before launch. Here's a shot of the SureType keyboard:



Crackberry also reiterates the past bit that it'll be a glass multi-touch screen with dual tactile feedback�it pushes in just a bit like a giant button and has localized haptics (it vibrates where you push it). However, the BlackBerry button will still be in heavy use to navigate around the OS. No further info on the delayed/not delayed spat, or on the name (which we've heard is actually Storm).

Source: Gizmodo


Posted by Dr. Z on Jul-14-2008 03:12:

^ thats a photoshopped 8800


Posted by Chris Allen on Jul-14-2008 03:38:


Posted by Orko on Jul-14-2008 15:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Chris Allen
Nope, Rogers crashed bigtime too. First it was a general outage from too many people trying to activate, and then the entire system went tits up.

Combine that with iTunes being hammered for activation and you have a shit-storm of a day.


I'm surprised they could not have taken care of this, ahead of time. There are a finite number of phones to be activated, because there is a finite shipment of physical phones. It just amazing that these insanely large companies did not have the capacity to handle all the transactions.

Could they not have done tests before hand?


Posted by OrZonE on Jul-14-2008 15:12:

I know in the midst of the iPhone excitement my question most likely got lost between the posts. So I shall ask again.

quote:
Originally posted by OrZonE
Anyone know of a good place to buy a flash cable from? Preferably downtown...


Any help is appreciated.


Posted by exstasie on Jul-14-2008 16:22:

quote:
Originally posted by OrZonE
I know in the midst of the iPhone excitement my question most likely got lost between the posts. So I shall ask again.



Any help is appreciated.


no idea...but if you want to buy anything like that, and don't need it ASAP, buy it from Monoprice.com

They have by far the best prices for anything cable related.


Posted by Rodrico on Jul-14-2008 17:47:

Anyone tried to upgrade to the $30/6GB plan they have on rogers without an iPhone, I've heard already that if you dont have a 3G phone, they wont let you change the plan. But so far all ive read here is that they should be allowing anyone to upgrade to that limited offer plan.


Posted by VERTiG0 on Jul-14-2008 19:57:

quote:
Originally posted by OrZonE
I know in the midst of the iPhone excitement my question most likely got lost between the posts. So I shall ask again.



Any help is appreciated.


What the hell is a "flash cable?" Are you looking for a cable to connect to your PC to your phone so you can flash the firmware of your phone to unlock/debrand it?


Posted by Chris Allen on Jul-14-2008 20:14:

Got the iPhone, finally.

Worth the wait? Of course


Posted by VERTiG0 on Jul-14-2008 20:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Chris Allen
Got the iPhone, finally.

Worth the wait? Of course


Enjoy your yellow screen and awful battery life


Posted by exstasie on Jul-14-2008 20:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Rodrico
Anyone tried to upgrade to the $30/6GB plan they have on rogers without an iPhone, I've heard already that if you dont have a 3G phone, they wont let you change the plan. But so far all ive read here is that they should be allowing anyone to upgrade to that limited offer plan.


I have a non-3G apple phoned and upgraded without any issue at all!

BB 8100!


Posted by VERTiG0 on Jul-14-2008 21:01:

quote:
Originally posted by exstasie
I have a non-3G apple phoned and upgraded without any issue at all!

BB 8100!



Wait, you have a Blackberry Pearl 8100 and it does not have 3G, yet you signed up for the 6GB/mo data thing?


Posted by OrZonE on Jul-14-2008 21:54:

quote:
Originally posted by VERTiG0
What the hell is a "flash cable?" Are you looking for a cable to connect to your PC to your phone so you can flash the firmware of your phone to unlock/debrand it?


AFAIK that's what the cable is called, "flash cable"/"unlock cable" not to be confused with the regular "data cable" . Looking to flash the firmware. I really would like to find a place in the downtown core, rather than ordering online (which unfortunately seems like the best option atm)


BTW, exstasie, that site doesn't carry them (or I'm blind...).


Posted by Chris Allen on Jul-14-2008 22:17:

quote:
Originally posted by VERTiG0
Enjoy your yellow screen and awful battery life


No yellow screen here, quite a lovely display actually. Battery life will be TBD though as it came fully charged.


Posted by VERTiG0 on Jul-14-2008 22:34:

quote:
Originally posted by OrZonE
AFAIK that's what the cable is called, "flash cable"/"unlock cable" not to be confused with the regular "data cable" . Looking to flash the firmware. I really would like to find a place in the downtown core, rather than ordering online (which unfortunately seems like the best option atm)


BTW, exstasie, that site doesn't carry them (or I'm blind...).


Okay well what phone is it that you wish to flash? They are all very different, and there are a ton of different connectors.


Posted by Rodrico on Jul-14-2008 23:01:

quote:
Originally posted by exstasie
I have a non-3G apple phoned and upgraded without any issue at all!

BB 8100!



nice, i wanna put opera browser on my curve so I can surf, lol. but Im waiting to see if I could get this plan without problems.


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