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Posted by HyperFreak on Jul-09-2006 17:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Vnatic
sets for people that want them:
Rob Gee ( asif anybody cares )


Haha.. downloaded it to hear the booing.

quote:
Originally posted by error
The HERO of the Sensation Black
http://dump.geenstijl.nl/mediabase/...054b/index.html
check it now



Nice!


Posted by DJ FireWire on Jul-09-2006 17:53:

I didn't dig this year's lineup at all. Like some people said, they had some great moments but also a lot of bad ones. Though of course, Prophet and Zany delivered like they were expected, along with Showtek and Catscan completely surprising the crowd... but the rest...? The rest just wasted a good dance event.

If I had to do the Black lineup, I'd do this:

- DJ Scot Project
- Yoji Biomehanika
- Blutonium Boy
- Lady Dana vs. DJ Luna
- DJ Pavo & The Prophet
- DJ Zany & DJ Isaac
- DJ Promo or DJ Dione or Tommyknocker
- Neophyte


Posted by Zayatz on Jul-09-2006 18:00:

what happened during the rob gee set?


Posted by s3nate on Jul-09-2006 18:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Vnatic
rob gee followup:

http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/...tion_Black.html


short translation for non dutch:

the guy who climbed up on stage and got the shit kicked out of him by rob gee & crew, pressed charges. Rob & crew all have to pay 2500 euro's fine. The guy who climbed up on the stage is going to be called into court ( doesn't say why, probably for bumrushing )



OWNED.


Posted by s3nate on Jul-09-2006 18:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Zayatz
what happened during the rob gee set?



Everyone hated what they were playing and some random dude jumped on the stage and tried beating up the rob gee members, ended up him getting his ass beat down by all of them. However Rob Gee got kicked off the stage so that guy is a hero.


Posted by DJ FireWire on Jul-09-2006 18:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Zayatz
what happened during the rob gee set?


He played like 3-5 songs with his heavy rock/metal band (though incorporating some scratching and some DJing techniques) but still SUCKING so much that a person from the crowd ran up on the stage and knocked Rob Gee to the ground with straight and direct attack from behind. He threw a punch at Rob Gee and then they all flailed to the ground and Rob's band members started all kicking him, and then Rob kicked him in the head a few times. Then the lights in the whole arena went off while the security took them all off the stage.

In other words, what happened was really uncalled for and wouldn't have happened in the first place if they did a good job on the booking. Rob Gee and his crew should NOT have been booked at all. The crowd was constantly booing them and wanted them off the stage, which inspired that person from the crowd to go and start a fight with Rob Gee.


Posted by TigerClaw on Jul-09-2006 18:17:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ FireWire
He played like 3-5 songs with his heavy rock/metal band (though incorporating some scratching and some DJing techniques) but still SUCKING so much that a person from the crowd ran up on the stage and knocked Rob Gee to the ground with straight and direct attack from behind. He threw a punch at Rob Gee and then they all flailed to the ground and Rob's band members started all kicking him, and then Rob kicked him in the head a few times. Then the lights in the whole arena went off while the security took them all off the stage.

In other words, what happened was really uncalled for and wouldn't have happened in the first place if they did a good job on the booking. Rob Gee and his crew should NOT have been booked at all. The crowd was constantly booing them and wanted them off the stage, which inspired that person from the crowd to go and start a fight with Rob Gee.

It goes to show that you cannot mix heavy metal and techno, Its a very unheathy combination which is enough to piss off the EDM crowd. I can see why they were booing them in the first place, Its an event strictly for electronic dance music, Its not a rock concert.


Posted by guvpunx on Jul-09-2006 22:07:

can somebody please give me the download link for the sensation black 2006 megamix? thank you


Posted by s3nate on Jul-09-2006 23:06:

quote:
Originally posted by TigerClaw
It goes to show that you cannot mix heavy metal and techno, Its a very unheathy combination which is enough to piss off the EDM crowd. I can see why they were booing them in the first place, Its an event strictly for electronic dance music, Its not a rock concert.


Heavy metal acually does work well with CERTAIN types of EDM such as Goa and PsyTrance.



And this Dream Catcher thing and the MC is really pissing me off. Thank god they stopped doing that at the end.


Posted by s3nate on Jul-09-2006 23:08:

Oh yeah I would do ANYTHING as well to see everyone dancing to Voodoo People on the Kai Tracid set.


Posted by RebeL9 on Jul-09-2006 23:23:

fighting at Sensation Black. Why am I not surprised. It's like an orgy in serious music


Posted by s3nate on Jul-09-2006 23:28:

God damn this is so funny have everyone is booing when the guy is getting the shit kicked out of him. Then everyone is cheering when Rob Gee leaves the place.


That was the greatest thing ever.


Posted by TigerClaw on Jul-09-2006 23:38:

quote:
Originally posted by s3nate
God damn this is so funny have everyone is booing when the guy is getting the shit kicked out of him. Then everyone is cheering when Rob Gee leaves the place.


That was the greatest thing ever.

We as a community have strong feelings about EDM, I personally hate rock music, And it should not in any shape or form find its way in EDM associated events, What happened last night was a clear example on why you cannot mix two styles of music together, Your gonna get those people who are very passionate about dance music completely pissed off. They came to dance, They didnt came to rock, Heh.


Posted by misiek2006 on Jul-09-2006 23:51:

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Posted by djash on Jul-10-2006 01:28:

quote:
Originally posted by s3nate
Heavy metal acually does work well with CERTAIN types of EDM such as Goa and PsyTrance.


Heavy metal with goa must be terrible collaboration! If you're mixing these style, you gonna be kicked like Rob Gee.

quote:
Originally posted by s3nate
God damn this is so funny have everyone is booing when the guy is getting the shit kicked out of him. Then everyone is cheering when Rob Gee leaves the place.


That was the greatest thing ever.


If it's funny for you, that mean you're a dumb or an idiot, like you write under you name! It's not Rob Gee's fault that he was booked on that event! Actually early he played hardcore, as i know. If Britney Spears will be booked for Sensation White and people will beat her, it would be funny also and thanks to ID&T for great show? If those ID&T bastards invite highed on dope ravers from all Holland, they must think better on lineup!

I hate fucking hip-hop, but i won't beat all rapers. I just won't listen them. I remember near 7 years ago on one discothek were invited some polish rock group for 45 minutes. I just went outside to wait till the end of their performance. In that time you can also buy some drinks or make toilet break. But our people begin to screaming some strong language words like "fuck you" e.t.c. It's our ukrainian culture! It's one of the reasons why i hate ukraine and will move to Italy soon. Noone forces you listen some music you don't like. DJ or artist is just doing his job how he can do. If i play hardtrance & trance i i'll be booking to play at the wedding, it will be fault of the orginizers if people won't like my sound!


Posted by DeRangedMind on Jul-10-2006 01:40:

said very well DJAsh


its messed what happen to the guy who climbed on stage. Also wtf wasn't Marcel Woods added to this for, this pissed me off when he played 30 minute set last year and this time he didn't even play. I hope that Sensation Black adds Marcel Woods, John 00 Fleming and Chris Liebing because even though I love hardstyle/jumpstyle DJ's I still think they need to mix it with other dark edm style.

Same goes for Sneation white, what the deal with all house music DJ and no Tiesto's 30 minute set was a joke.Good thing they booked Ferry Corsten atleast


Posted by djash on Jul-10-2006 02:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Vnatic
rob gee followup:

http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/...tion_Black.html


short translation for non dutch:

the guy who climbed up on stage and got the shit kicked out of him by rob gee & crew, pressed charges. Rob & crew all have to pay 2500 euro's fine. The guy who climbed up on the stage is going to be called into court ( doesn't say why, probably for bumrushing )


Are you kidding us??? Rob Gee have to pay 2500 to junkie who began the fight? On my opinion the only one who have to pay, it's ID&T to Rob Gee!!! That band really can't fight, i would make it much better!

in our country you can beat him till broken legs & hands and you will pay a few hundreds bucks max. Actually in our discothecks fights is a usuall thing. Back in 2000, during and after every fucking discothek some people fought near the clubs up to 20-30 people. Just here it's normal that you can fight with someone and it will be only your business! Not like in US, if i hit someone, then i'll pay a few thousands for that. It's fucking stupid. I remeber a few years ago 2 czech guys were beaten & robed by some band with pipes. Then foreighners were in the hostital with broken heads! Sad Story


Posted by djash on Jul-10-2006 02:52:

quote:
Originally posted by pistage
Vnatic, I couldn't have said it better myself! Thanks for sharing and thanks for the review. Let's hope that next years sensation won't be this bad, I'm going there then

Imho, I think that Rob Gee and the crew destroyed the evening completely! Even by watching the video I could see that the atmosphere was not the same in the arena as it was in sensation -03 to -05! They even skipped the "dream-ketchup" mumbo jumbo on the last DJ's because of the fear that the crowd will go bananaz and destroy the place. If I would be there, with the tickets paid and all, I would've demand to get the money refunded! Seriously, this year was VERY unprofessional!

Expectations on the next year lineup(in this order):

Tom Harding - starts up with some hardtrance to get the people going nice and smooth, just like last year!
Scot Project - KICKASS dj with mixed styles
Dana - continues with some good music(she's a sure card)
Pavo - awesome set 2004, capable of doing kick-ass hardstyle sets!
Luna - the hardstyle god (next to zany and technoboy )
The prophet - guy knows how to do it, now doubt
Zany - no words for this guy
Last hardcore Dj should be Promo, he rocked the boat 2004!

Can anyone agree with me on this one?


I repeat, Rob Gee done live act like they dealt with ID&T!!! it's only ID&T fault!!!

About your lineup. It's sucks! Tom harding plays NRG ( dont like that style), Scot sucks last few years, Dana not like, Pavo was very good @ 04, Luna sucks a lot, he's not popular more than a few years. I liked his early sets a lot, but now... Prophet - cool choice, Zany also good. About hardcore DJ promo can't plays again as the same tracks will be repeted again!

As i said earlier, Sensation from the begining was multistyle electronic dance music event! White invites all light electronik genres, black - hardest! As it's a thread for Black i'll post my version of line up.
I'll put a few variants for every style

for the begining hard trance: Kai tRacid, DJ Wag (best hardtrancer for me, you can see his tracklists in his tracklist archive link in my signature) Hennes & Cold, Martin Roth

maybe Techtrance: Sander van Doorn would be the best

hardtechno: Sven Wittekind, Felix Kroecher (heard a few his last shows, very dark schranz would feet to black perfect), e.t.c

maybe drum'n'bass, not sure!!: i don't know that style Djs a lot (really hated that style till i heard some nice sound from D'n'B floor when i moved to Kiev for Blank & Jones

some jump for sure, i like it: Darkraver (but not annually from 2003!), Ruthless & Vorwerk, Norman, Deaz D e.t.c.

hardstyle: Zany, Rob, Prophet, Brennan & Heart, Mondello e.t.c.

hardcore: Unexist, Stunned Guys, Scott Brown, Viper, Neophyte, Nosferatu, Promo, Catscan..

Some kind of that lineup should be great. And no fucking megamix! 1.5 hours to each DJ. As people have to rest sometimes, they can miss some style they don't like.


Posted by shuffler420 on Jul-10-2006 03:35:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ FireWire
I didn't dig this year's lineup at all. Like some people said, they had some great moments but also a lot of bad ones. Though of course, Prophet and Zany delivered like they were expected, along with Showtek and Catscan completely surprising the crowd... but the rest...? The rest just wasted a good dance event.

If I had to do the Black lineup, I'd do this:

- DJ Scot Project
- Yoji Biomehanika
- Blutonium Boy
- Lady Dana vs. DJ Luna
- DJ Pavo & The Prophet
- DJ Zany & DJ Isaac
- DJ Promo or DJ Dione or Tommyknocker
- Neophyte


+1

hell yeh! thats a wicked lineup. couldnt have put it better myself!


Posted by shuffler420 on Jul-10-2006 03:47:

a new addition to the lineup of sensation black could be this dj i saw on friday nite. a japanese dj called energy dai (student of yoji i think). he played sum wicked hard trance/sum hardstyle. they need to get sum new, young talented djs into the bookings as well as keeping the old favourites. add sum new djs to the lineup, not just young upcoming djs, but old faves who havent played before, just to keep some variety into the party. sensation white this year was pitiful, mostly house with barely any variety. im shure ppl dont want this to happen to black id hope. sum djs for the lineup could be:

energy dai
organ donors
blutonium boy
proteus
alex szahala vs. Rx (Finnish djs - so awesum live!!!)
etc

new talent would be much appreciated im shure along with all the old favourites in my opinion...


Posted by s3nate on Jul-10-2006 04:44:

quote:
Originally posted by djash
Heavy metal with goa must be terrible collaboration! If you're mixing these style, you gonna be kicked like Rob Gee.



Then why is Infected Mushroom so popular? Same with 1200 mics?


All of them contain some heavy metal guitar riffs in some of their songs.


Posted by criticalpath on Jul-10-2006 05:49:

You guys and your hardstyle. What would make SB great would be to have a mix of hard trance, techno, hardstyle, and hardcore in the lineup... If it's all hardstyle DJs, then they better play hardstyle, not jumpstyle.

For those who thought Kai Tracid's set was kind of weird (I thought that too), you should all give it another listen. After my second listen, I thought his set was very good.


Posted by djash on Jul-10-2006 10:25:

quote:
Originally posted by s3nate
Then why is Infected Mushroom so popular? Same with 1200 mics?


All of them contain some heavy metal guitar riffs in some of their songs.


Have to download some of their livesets and listen!

You said mixing heavy metal with goa trance, not inserting guitar riffs!!! Mixing means one heavy metal track is mixed to goa trance. For example mix Manowar track with Astral Projection! It's absolutely different things mixing and insert samples


Posted by THE_Chris on Jul-10-2006 10:35:

quote:
Originally posted by s3nate
Then why is Infected Mushroom so popular? Same with 1200 mics?


All of them contain some heavy metal guitar riffs in some of their songs.


Skazi.


Posted by error on Jul-10-2006 12:21:

Megamix
01. S.O. Project - Direkt Dizko (Sander Van Doorn Remix)
02. Marcel Woods - Monotone
03. Abel Ramos - Electro Fun (E-Craig Remix)
04. Randy Katana - Play it louder
05. Ramirez - Hablando
06. Lars Tindy vs Vega - Fly with me
07. Derb - Derbus
08. Tatarola - Who's Calling?
19. Deepack & The Prophet - Stampuh !
10. Jesselyn - Iron
11. A*S*Y*S - No More Fuckin' Rock N Roll
12. A-Lusion - Perfect It
13. Vorwerk - Cambodia
14. DJ Zany vs DJ Isaac - What U Need
15. DJ Gizmo vs Showtek - 3 The Hard Way
16. Technoboy - Gun's N Noses (Supa Bass Mix)
17. DJ Luna - Bring That Shit Back
18. Marshall Masters - Stereo Murder
19. DJ Tony - Afraid Of The Dark
20. DJ Zany - Spunk
21. Donkey Rollers - Followers
22. Neophyte - Brain Crackin'
23. Turbulence n Terrorists - Six million ways


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