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Originally posted by BiG-_BoSS I have no problems with my sexual background if you didn't come here to chat about girls than take the whore out of your avatar you stupid bitch.

oh boy what's your problem...didn't u get enough attention from the girls in russia I can t help you adn I m not interested in you so stop talking to me like that ok. live you own fantasie

Back on Topic: Has anybody read the thread I made on Israel and the military??

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid Back on Topic: Has anybody read the thread I made on Israel and the military??

no what is it about?>

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Originally posted by Dunya no what is it about?>

feel free to read it...right about now
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"The current crisis is part of a larger struggle between the forces of freedom and the forces of terror in the Middle East," Bush said Monday. "When democracy spreads in the Middle East, the people of that troubled region will have a better future." Apparently, Bush is unclear on the fact that Lebanon's prime minister -- elected after the country's celebrated "cedar revolution" -- has condemned the uncritical support provided by the United States for Israel since this conflagration began. Or that Hezbollah is an important part of that democratic government because of its popularity among the Shiite Muslims of southern Lebanon. Bush's neoconservative foreign-policy cabal argued that troublesome regimes, such as that of Saddam Hussein, could be easily transformed into pliable, West-leaning democracies. Instead, the opposite has happened. Throughout the region, elections hyped by Bush have turned out to be a vehicle for the expression of religion-fueled rage against Israel and its U.S. sponsor.

Even the elected leaders in "liberated" Iraq are denouncing Israel and the United States. On Monday, the Iraqi prime minister appeared at a memorial service in which he and other speakers condemned Israel. Grand Ayatollah Ali al Sistani, the most important leader in post-Hussein Iraq, broke from his usually circumspect public statements to denounce this "outrageous crime," while Moqtada al Sadr, leader of the country's most powerful militia and a key parliamentary bloc, railed against "the ominous trio of the United States, Israel and Britain, which is terrorizing Iraq, Lebanon, Afghanistan and other occupied nations."


Meanwhile, Israel, with U.S. support, has ignored what it had learned through its occupation of Palestinian territories and previous disastrous attempts to subdue Lebanon: Compromise from a position of strength is more effective than seeking a pyrrhic total victory. Not only has each attempt to crush local resistance begat more radical and disciplined enemies, such as Hezbollah and Hamas, but the likelihood of rage-fueled "blowback" is exponentially increased.

"There's going to be another 9/11, and then we're going to hear all the usual claptrap about how it's good versus evil, and they hate us because we're good and democratic, and they hate our values and all the other material that comes out of the rear end of a bull," London Independent correspondent Robert Fisk told interviewer Amy Goodman of the radio program "Democracy Now!" after watching dozens of children's corpses being stuffed into plastic bags or wrapped in rugs.

It is true that the Israeli withdrawals of the past half-decade, nearly complete in the case of Lebanon and cynically minimal in the Palestinian territories, did not resolve all the disputes or stop all violence. Yet the abandonment of the peace process and the renewed reliance on bombs will prove far more costly for Israel. Long after Bush is gone from office, Israel will be threatened by a new generation of enemies whose political memory was decisively shaped by these horrible images emerging from Lebanon. At that point, Israelis attempting to make peace with those they must coexist with will recognize that with friends such as Bush and his neoconservative mentors, they would not lack for enemies.

I don't think it's there is something new about the thread.The Us is supporting the zionists because they want to have influences in the important region (oil)

Uhm...where is this dude talking coming from!?

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Originally posted by weymouth Uhm...where is this dude talking coming from!?

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Originally posted by Dunya I don't think it's there is something new about the thread.The Us is supporting the zionists because they want to have influences in the important region (oil)

See.. thats where I dont know what the US its really thinking right now. Its obvious and logical that the US its feeling the heat when it comes to supporting Israelis actions. In the beginning it gave Israel the full green light, but after all the civilian casualties and an apparent Israeli failure on dissarming Hezbullah as they had previously thought, may cause the turn around of some of US' closests allies ( economically and democratically ).. Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and Iraq ( it's leaders clearly stated that as you all know ).. in other words, all Middle Eastern leaders are calling for a cease fire, and have called against Israeli's actions. It's gone too far, and US international policy its having? ( or may, most likely will ) have a huge retract on all of the accomplishments that it has "supposedly " created. It will weaken the democratic leaders in the regin, and this will just FUEl extremists all over the place. Israel its getting on a shit hole, and so is the US for not telling them STOP it. US's interest on OIL relies on Saudi Arabia and all the other countries more then Israel..

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Originally posted by Dunya The Us is supporting the zionists because they want to have influences in the important region (oil)

Do you have a timeframe as to how long it's been happening?

If someone here can interject with an answer go right ahead. Let's see how many people have brain cells.

something I've just noticed...
BBC hasn't reported about the 8 Israeli civilians killed today (Aug 3rd). they keep reporting every minute on what's going on in Lebanon, yet they ignore Israeli deaths. I hope they're not using their media exposure as a propaganda 'tool'...
and this leads me to the next thought: why hasn't the UN condemned that act? where are all those human rights groups when Israeli civilians are murdered? and why the international community stays quite? where the hell is Kofi Anan?

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Originally posted by ronk something I've just noticed... BBC hasn't reported about the 8 Israeli civilians killed today (Aug 3rd). they keep reporting every minute on what's going on in Lebanon, yet they ignore Israeli deaths. I hope they're not using their media exposure as a propaganda 'tool'... and this leads me to the next thought: why hasn't the UN condemned that act? where are all those human rights groups when Israeli civilians are murdered? and why the international community stays quite? where the hell is Kofi Anan?

are you expecting the world to feel sorry for you?dont count on that.

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Originally posted by ogvh5150 Do you have a timeframe as to how long it's been happening? If someone here can interject with an answer go right ahead.

sure. i believe it began with the dinosaurs.

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Originally posted by Shakka Sweet. That seemed to work. Of course I have no idea how to add play/pause controls.

From video: "hezbollah has 12,000 missiles capable of hitting most cities in Israel".
So why aren't they hitting most cities? i've seen on news coverage Isreal thinks Hez has bigger missiles thean what they have been using - so why wouldn't they use them? I mean if they had them, you'd expect they would have been firing them by now. It's not like they'd be waiting for the start of September before they bring them out. Maybe they just don't have them, and Isreal has poor intelligence.

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Originally posted by skot_e Maybe they just don't have them, and Isreal has poor intelligence.

or maybe Israel is full of shit and this is all excuses to destroy Lebenon.

Remember the WMD of Iraq and the excuse for the American invasion?Israel is pulling the same shi on Lebenon

That's been my thinking too.

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Originally posted by skot_e From video: "hezbollah has 12,000 missiles capable of hitting most cities in Israel". So why aren't they hitting most cities? i've seen on news coverage Isreal thinks Hez has bigger missiles thean what they have been using - so why wouldn't they use them? I mean if they had them, you'd expect they would have been firing them by now. It's not like they'd be waiting for the start of September before they bring them out. Maybe they just don't have them, and Isreal has poor intelligence.

A guy on the BBC was talking about the disinformation and propaganda being used on both sides, and said that Hezbollah claimed that they had missiles that could reach far into Israel which was "obviously a lie" and then mentioned Israel bombing the Lebanon airport to stop the flow of Iranian and Syrian arms was also a lie.

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Originally posted by tathi A guy on the BBC was talking about the disinformation and propaganda being used on both sides, and said that Hezbollah claimed that they had missiles that could reach far into Israel which was "obviously a lie" and then mentioned Israel bombing the Lebanon airport to stop the flow of Iranian and Syrian arms was also a lie.

you should call'em and ask what they meant.





these are scans of Hez'z Media Relations business cards. no shit.

call'em.

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Originally posted by ronk where the hell is Kofi Anan?

smokin' dat ganja, mon

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Originally posted by ronk something I've just noticed... BBC hasn't reported about the 8 Israeli civilians killed today (Aug 3rd). they keep reporting every minute on what's going on in Lebanon, yet they ignore Israeli deaths. I hope they're not using their media exposure as a propaganda 'tool'... and this leads me to the next thought: why hasn't the UN condemned that act? where are all those human rights groups when Israeli civilians are murdered? and why the international community stays quite? where the hell is Kofi Anan?

Who gives a fuc what Kofi Anan has to say? Fuc him.

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Originally posted by Purple Who gives a fuc what Kofi Anan has to say? Fuc him.

That reminds me of a Dave Chapelle Skit, you know the one about "Black Bush"

Bush: Annan, you think I am going to take orders from an African?? I know gucci when I see it, I'm rich bitch! Go sell some medicine, bitches! SO what if you can speak 4 languages, you going to need it selling hats in Time's Square! " ha ha classic...

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer are you expecting the world to feel sorry for you?dont count on that.

well that just shows how hypocrite some of the world is. they scream at Lebanese deaths, and stay quiet at Israeli deaths.
while I somehow understand why the arab countries didn't respond, the rest of the world should have condemned that act, don't you think? or at least say something.
just like they comndemned the IAF strike on Qana (which many sources say was aimed at rocket launchers, and many civilians were killed because of Hezbollah), they should have definitely at least (!) condemn that Hezbollah strike on civilians (on purpose).
this is funny. Hezbollah fires at civilians in order to kill them and the rest of the world has nothing to say?!

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Originally posted by ronk something I've just noticed... BBC hasn't reported about the 8 Israeli civilians killed today (Aug 3rd). they keep reporting every minute on what's going on in Lebanon, yet they ignore Israeli deaths. I hope they're not using their media exposure as a propaganda 'tool'... and this leads me to the next thought: why hasn't the UN condemned that act? where are all those human rights groups when Israeli civilians are murdered? and why the international community stays quite? where the hell is Kofi Anan?

Well Al jazeera have said that so it must be true...by the way the media in Belguim said the same thing.

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Originally posted by skot_e From video: "hezbollah has 12,000 missiles capable of hitting most cities in Israel". So why aren't they hitting most cities? i've seen on news coverage Isreal thinks Hez has bigger missiles thean what they have been using - so why wouldn't they use them? I mean if they had them, you'd expect they would have been firing them by now. It's not like they'd be waiting for the start of September before they bring them out. Maybe they just don't have them, and Isreal has poor intelligence.

Strategery. Don't blow your load on the first thrust.

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Originally posted by Shakka Strategery. Don't blow your load on the first thrust.

ewwww..........

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Originally posted by Shakka Strategery. Don't blow your load on the first thrust.

Wait too long and you'll have no-one left to aim the weapon.

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