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I wonder if there any korean red sox diehards with the last name Park who would name their kid Fenway

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Originally posted by TranceHater 1995 mvp! robinson might have done more for game but mo was better player, he was quite nimble at 1st if you remember too. so he was in top 5 in baseball in 1996 was jackie ever in top 5? or mvp voting? If he didnt get the Mets curse , he would have been a Hall of fame candidate

Jackie Robison was 3rd in OPS in 1949, 4th in 1951, and 2nd in 1952. He also won the NL MVP in 1952. He led the league in BA in 1949. He led the league in OBP in 1952. He was third in SLG in 1949(Interesting...). He led the league in SBs in 1947 (his rookie year [when he won RotY]) and in 1949. Besides his 1 MVP year, he ranked in the top 10 3 additional times in his 10 year career. He was 3rd in Runs Created in 1949, 1951, and 1952.

Mo Vaughn was MVP in 1995. The closest he came to leading the league in OPS was in 1998 when he was 5th. He never ranked higher than 6th in SLG(Interesting...). Besides his 1 MVP, he ranked in the top 10 2 other times in his 12 year career. He led the league in SOs in 1995 and 2000... and that's about it.

Who's better than who now?

Robinson was no Gretzky, but if it wasnt for him, the sport would not have 'evolutionized' the way it did.

I don't know why it is that people have the perception that Jackie Robinson is only famous because he was the first professional black player. He was a damn good baseball player.

he was a damn good player, and he was out out home in the ws.

He was a damn good player that had a TON of extra pressure and hardships, which as a result, makes his achievements all that much more remarkable as a player. But he still wins just as a player too.

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Originally posted by TranceHater he was a damn good player, and he was out out home in the ws.

Way to avoid mentioning the stats that you asked me to look up.

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Originally posted by Shamez214 Way to avoid mentioning the stats that you asked me to look up.

I know he wasnt in the hall of fame entirely for being black he was good, but he was the 3rd best player of his own team during that time duke snider and kofax, drysdale was great too

now that I think about it wasnt there a forgotten war going on during those years, so werent many great players away at war, if im not mistaken?

Hooray.

Okay. First off. "War" had/has nothing to do with anything. If you're willing to bring that up for Jackie Robinson, then what about Ted Williams? Or what about all the black ball players who weren't playing due to the color barrier? You can't bring up things that didn't happen because of a "war."

Second... Koufax wasn't good until 1962. Jackie was way gone at that point. Don Drysdale had 1 year together with Jackie Robinson.

Finally... the point wasn't that the Dodgers were a better team in the 50's then the Red Sox were in the 90's. The point was that Jackie Robinson was a better player than Mo Vaughn. Which I've shown in more ways that one now.

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