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i take it by your silence you agree with me

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Originally posted by Echo of Silence hi whiskers.

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



76 pages, 1126 replies, 36 of them by me AND FINALLY SOMEONE ACKNOWLEDGES MY PRESENCE IN HERE


i'll go cry in my corner now

I hope you didn't think I was attacking you, Orbax, because I was attacking the argument presented by AskMen.com, which I'm sure is fine. When I first read it though, it really hit a nerve. I think you throw girls off because you are atypical of most men. I'd be a little thrown off if I were hitting on you because most guys who don't have sex do it for religious reasons, and those guys tend not to drink. Especially not like fish So you kind of see it coming.

I don't think it's accurate to say that people don't want to be loved. People don't want to be smothered, or feel obligated and guilted in reciprocity. There's a void of neediness that most people leave when they display affection and I can't stand it. Too often, people are "loving" because they need to feel loved -- so they give affection under the expectation that it be returned and things get ugly when/if it isn't. Think about it: how often can you not say, "I love you, too."

Everyone wants to be loved, but most people can't distinguish unconditional and selfless love from the self-serving kind that is prevalent.

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Originally posted by Orbax Daff Daff Daff. Youre a cut above, a breed apart. You have to realize that most women, and I do mean most, are fucked in the head. Either coincidence is amazing, and i just happened to meet all the fucked up girls in the world, which is possible, but... Every girl I have known has reached a point in my relationship where they decide to fuck everything up. I dont have a single female friend at the moment, cuz they all decided to try/actually get me into bed one way or another. Now, this is understandable, because im fucking awesome, but I had made my intentions clear to all of them, and they tried Rung Jumping in the ladder of life. All of the acquaintances Ive had have made similar fucked up decisions. Men are morons too, dont get me wrong. Ive said it a LOT, 90% of people are fucking stupid, and both men and women fill that statement equally. Askmen does cover a lot of relevant issues with women, doesnt mean they condone any of the situations themselves, they just answer the questions. ALL people, and this is the basic principle of askmen, dont want people to always be there. Its referred to as challenge factor. Men challenge women differently than women challenge men, but it all = interest levels. Summary: People are stupid, and dont like being loved.

As for women testing men? It constantly happens...at least I think so.
Hre's an example: I went to go see PvD with some TAs and took this girl along who was a friend of a good friend of mine. So we're all partying it up, then she goes to me "It's ok if you go and talk it up with some of your friends, you don't have to stay here with me the whole night." So I said "ok cool". What I didn't know (yeah I'm inexperienced) is that you are SUPPOSED to stay with the girl the entire night anyway. It's some sort of test to see if you are actually interested in them. I find that to be so fucking stupid. I mean WHY do that? Why not talk to the guy, find out if they're interested that way instead of making them jump through a fucking hoop or lie about it? Meh...women. (also while all this was going on at the party, she met some dude while I was partying it up with the friends and is now awaiting his phonecall).

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Originally posted by Endlesswave As for women testing men? It constantly happens...at least I think so. Hre's an example: I went to go see PvD with some TAs and took this girl along who was a friend of a good friend of mine. So we're all partying it up, then she goes to me "It's ok if you go and talk it up with some of your friends, you don't have to stay here with me the whole night." So I said "ok cool". What I didn't know (yeah I'm inexperienced) is that you are SUPPOSED to stay with the girl the entire night anyway. It's some sort of test to see if you are actually interested in them. I find that to be so fucking stupid. I mean WHY do that? Why not talk to the guy, find out if they're interested that way instead of making them jump through a fucking hoop or lie about it? Meh...women. (also while all this was going on at the party, she met some dude while I was partying it up with the friends and is now awaiting his phonecall).

I will be that last to argue that some girls aren't duplicitous. But guys do the same thing. My big problem with most guys I date is they say they're fine with the kind of person I am, they're fine with everything, but they're not. I can't tell you how many different guys have said they're fine with a situation and blow up over it later.

My problem is the notion that only women act that way, because it is utterly and completely untrue.

what are normal people to do in this crazy crazy world?

sigh.

double sigh...

its just weird that Ive never wanted any of the girls Ive been with

listen to this. I get a call 3 am. Im like booty call woot. So i go over with 6 pack of Guinness (for me, buck a bottle bizatch ) and she makes me some tea, and then gives me a massage cuz my shoulder had been all messed up.

She lives in a loft. So her couch (which i found out exactly 1.5 hours later) is her bed (it unfolds). So were watchin a movie, and I had thought I liked her. I just reach a point like 20 mins into the movie and say "Why dont you just come sit with me"

she scoots over, i hold her.

yada yada yada

so the couch is unfolded into a bed now. Now im totally into the movie so Im not holding her anymore haha. So she kisses my cheek.

at that instant i realize that 1)I dont like her like that even though I thought i might and 2) I am obligated to kiss her.

so I just kinda roll over her and start kissin to get it over with. and she was terrible. after a minute or so i (still cant believe i did this) roll BACK over and say "ite, well lets watch the movie for a bit"

she starts goin after me and I dont be on bottom no matter what so I gotta do that. Finally i get up to piss and just kind of stare at myself in the mirror for a while thinking "What the fuck are you doing, you like her as a friend , she isnt datable" so I walk out its now 5 am and ive had a few beers and I say im outtie, see her later.

Im always questioning if I like someone and I never make a move, then they move on me and I realize, nope...dont like em. But im totally neutral until that point.

It actually kind of bugs me ive never liked anyone. Theres been some hotties, but I always get turned off, even when they are straddling me trying to excavate my tonsils with their tongue and I want to leave.

and no im not gay lol

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Originally posted by Orbax what are normal people to do in this crazy crazy world? sigh. double sigh...

I dunno, but it's certainly making me feel abnormal.

edit above hehe

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Originally posted by Orbax edit above hehe

yeah, i know what you mean (i don't feel like quoting your edit). it funny how if the mystery is shattered too soon you lose interest quickly. i've established two groups of guys for my purposes: the ones i talk to, and the ones i, um... yeah. we'll call them the others.

anyway, with the ones i talk to, i like them. and i want them to like me. the others, well, i want them to serve their purposed and not talk to me. i always know if i potentially like a guy because i'm not wondering how long it will be until, uh, things get "underway." it's such a delicate time because if he makes a move when i'm actually enjoying talking to him, it's all over and he becomes one of the others.

typing that out made me realize that i'm pretty weird.

?

i understand what youre saying, and at first I thought it was because they had done something wrong and not seduced me properly lol. But about 4 nights ago i was thinking...who do i really LOVE. It was kinda spooky answer. Like my parents said "we might put the dog down, shes old, pisses everywhere, and attacks people and other dogs"

my response was "oh , well if you guys have already thought about it..."

All my best friends, some 10 years +, have been cut off by me, cuz theyll move out of convenience range (ie california, me in seattle) so I see no logical point in continuing talking to them.

Like if someone is around Im an awesome friend, Ill hop in the car so you can use carpool lane and take a 3 hour trip to pick up a disc or something, but if you move away, im like, ah well thats over, no regrets.

Its my latest neurosis, thinking that I dont care about anything, and then not caring if I dont or do...its a vicious cycle.

Plus I tend to set my bars high, so pretty much every girl I meet is immediately placed on a friendship rung.



PS. are these "others" your tennis partners?

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Originally posted by daffodil i wanted to be there more than anything because i absolutely love gabriel and dresden, the night they played at glow was one of the best nights i've ever had

Agreed! best night ever!

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Originally posted by Orbax Every girl I have known has reached a point in my relationship where they decide to fuck everything up. I dont have a single female friend at the moment, cuz they all decided to try/actually get me into bed one way or another. Now, this is understandable, because im fucking awesome,

Heh!

Re: ?

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Originally posted by Orbax i understand what youre saying, and at first I thought it was because they had done something wrong and not seduced me properly lol. But about 4 nights ago i was thinking...who do i really LOVE. It was kinda spooky answer. Like my parents said "we might put the dog down, shes old, pisses everywhere, and attacks people and other dogs" my response was "oh , well if you guys have already thought about it..." All my best friends, some 10 years +, have been cut off by me, cuz theyll move out of convenience range (ie california, me in seattle) so I see no logical point in continuing talking to them. Like if someone is around Im an awesome friend, Ill hop in the car so you can use carpool lane and take a 3 hour trip to pick up a disc or something, but if you move away, im like, ah well thats over, no regrets. Its my latest neurosis, thinking that I dont care about anything, and then not caring if I dont or do...its a vicious cycle. Plus I tend to set my bars high, so pretty much every girl I meet is immediately placed on a friendship rung. PS. are these "others" your tennis partners?

interesting... sounds a bit familiar. and no, these others are not tennis partners. they're running buddies.

Do you run?

Ok....I am home now.

This weekend was not so bad...we really did not work as hard as the last time and we did more hanign out in the hot tub drinkin Shiner Bock than working it seems hehe.

Branson is still scary as hell. And yes, I did take pictures of the hideous Yakov billboard for occrider

As to all the posts above and such. I will start here.

A) daff, I deserve pictures more than Orbax does hehe j/k

B) whiskers - I ackowledged your presence the last time you did a post rundown...which I think might have been the last time you posted in here before your "hi" post on the previous page.

C) To all this askmen/ask cosmo bullshit. That is what it is, bullshit. No two men or tow women on the planet are alike. So everyone should stop making all these fucking generalizations and just let people be who they are. Women are not all psycho (unless they are actresses or dancers....they are definitely all psychos ) and trying to control men through this and that. Not all men are "players" nor are they all going about it all wrong by doing what a woman would like them to do.

Bah, I will admit it, I am not the luckiest guy with the ladies cause I am a big chicken 99.99% of the time and don't have any clue as to how to read the signals. Thusly, I probably have missed dozens of good chances because I am either oblivious to the signals or too shy to talk to people I find attractive. I can talk to women fine in a professional setting or when I am around them and I know they are involved with someone (I have always had a personal rule that women who are involved are off-limits...I think it is unfair to all parties involoved to even think abotu going down that road) but I end up being quiet and a little bumbling in other social situations. My mind does not work like other people's do and conversations usually becoming odd because I have all this weird trivial crap that pops up for no reason. I am a freak But I still think all of this bullshit from both sides is wrong and just complicates the matter more than it should.

That all being said any mildly to very attractive young ladies between the ages of 18-28 who are interested in having a pet squirrel are free to apply at the office.


So ya, I am back. I have the rest of today off and then the old nose goes back on the grindstone tomorrow at 8 a.m. And then I leave you all for 2 more days as I travel to sunny Fort Wayne IN to install a weird ass children's playroom at one of those crazy giant church complexes they like so much out here in the Midwest.

MrS

Good to hear you made it back alright.

My weekend was alright, went and saw my friend down at USC (University of South Carolina , not Southern California..

hmm, i seem to be in the same boat with ya MrS. I'm shy and cant for the life of me iniate conversation, but when I do, I really dont know what to say so I start talking about random things.. in a way though this works because it makes them laugh. And i've always heard that girls look for a sense of humor in a guy.


But i still think that the whole "dont look for love, love will find you when you least expect it" is a load of bullcrap. You have to go out and find love or else u'll stay at home all day waiting for love and you'll waste your whole life

I'm more outgoing and extroverted on this forum, which is cool, but if u meet me in person i'm not as outgoing.

hmm well im done ranting i dont know what else to say, heh.

Nice car ther ein your sig Mebot....what is that an 82 Cavalier hatchback?

Funny tidbit of useless trivia....our renatl car, a silver taurus, had 166 CAR as it's plate number. Which we found kinda funny. Got out of the hotel this morning and there was a second silver taurus 2 spots away from ours with 158 CAR as it's plates.

Odd is it not?

HOLY FUCKIN SWEEET! I just realized I am going to Indiana on Wed. which means I can buy Powerball tickets since we didn't stop for tickets on our way out of Branson. I need to win the lotto so I can buy/build a house with a hottub....man the hot tub at teh hotel felt good after a day of work.


MrS

Hey almost correct. Right make, wrong model. Its a 1982 Chevrolet Citation X-11. Kinda like mine.. only mine is a 1984 model, and its not cool enuff to fly like this one. In fact mine really isnt a Citation, it's more of a Butt. A Chevy Butt. Which is what I call it.


BTW if you win powerball, remember all the little guys IE.. all of us here on TA!

i miss the little banshee... i neeeeeed her!

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Originally posted by Mebot Hey almost correct. Right make, wrong model. Its a 1982 Chevrolet Citation X-11. Kinda like mine.. only mine is a 1984 model, and its not cool enuff to fly like this one. In fact mine really isnt a Citation, it's more of a Butt. A Chevy Butt. Which is what I call it. BTW if you win powerball, remember all the little guys IE.. all of us here on TA!

Ahh I thought it was a Citation at first but it looked too short to be one. Citation = bigger Chevette hehe.

Little people? What little people?

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Originally posted by arturob i miss the little banshee... i neeeeeed her!

You gonna be alright there son?

hehe.

MrS

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Originally posted by Orbax Do you run?

Yes, I do run. To the wine bottle. Or the couch. Or my bed.

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Originally posted by Mebot Good to hear you made it back alright. My weekend was alright, went and saw my friend down at USC (University of South Carolina , not Southern California..

heh heh... cocks. hehe.

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But i still think that the whole "dont look for love, love will find you when you least expect it" is a load of bullcrap. You have to go out and find love or else u'll stay at home all day waiting for love and you'll waste your whole life

It usually turns out that way for me. Not necessarily with love, but some interesting guy always walks into my life when I don't really want one. It's a matter of not trying to make every girl/guy you meet "the one!" because it's counter-productive. I think that adage is more along the lines of, "Just let it happen, asshole."

I think I might be more extroverted in person than on the boards.

I feel dirty....daff has posted replies to both the post before and the post after mine and still has not said Hello.

I am cryin now


MrS

You also run to the toilet to throw up alcohol from what I have heard, also hehe.

What up Busta-nut (squirrel man)

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