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man this thread is fucking awesome...im loving every second of it
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| Originally posted by TuanAnh213 ah shutup and go jizz over phalastine  |
I cant be taken seriouselly because Im looking for excuses? How am I looking for excuses? everything I've said it completelly true. If I said that Iraq was a horrible place because it had a horrible dictator is that looking for an excuse? If you can disprove any of what Ive said then go right ahead.
The high rate of gun crime: The majority of gun crimes and violence is not in any ghettos. Statisticly domestic violence and murder is much much more common. The sollution to ghettos that are very violent is not to have more police but to target the poverty that creates such a situation. Another solution would be to ban the sale of guns. It's true some people would still buy them illegaly, but there would be many many less.
Legal system: I will refer to three examples. One was a kid who was 18 and was arrested selling one ounce of pot. This was his first offence and he was in college. He got 20 years in jail. Example two: That article someone posted where the person threw shit at a prison guard and got 50 years for it. Example three: If you are caught selling drugs within 100 metres of a housing project you recieve several additional years in jail. This is clearly very discriminatory against poor people, and since the majority of poor people in the states are black or espanic it is in effect racist.
gap between rich and poor: I judge this simply by looking at the gini index. This is the globaly recognized statistical measure of inequality and the U.S. does quite badly compared to other rich nations.
Civil Liberties: Im judging this based on powers of the FBI and CIA. And anti-drug and terrorist bills that allow your liberties to be completely suspended.
Jails: It has been clearly shown time and time again that putting people in jails does not lower crime. It doesn't deal with the problems that cause crime in the slightest. It such huge amounts of money that states are falling apart. In Florida they had to let schools out three weeks early because they couldnt afford to pay the teachers passed that. theres a bill in Texas to cut the school week to 4 days because theyve spent all their money on prisons.
You may be part of the lucky class of people in the States who has lots of money and these problems don't impact. But they do impact a lot of people and it's completelly ignorant to say just because you do fine it means that your country isn't a bad place overall.
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| Originally posted by TuanAnh213 4.lack of civil liberties? what are you basing this on? the increased airport stops against middle eastern men suspected of being terrorists? considering what happened after 9/11 there are gonna be some disillusional people who will be prejudice against middle eastern descent but since then it has toned completely down besides THIS how are we lacking in civil liberties? america has one of the most diverse population in the world...if we lacked civil liberties we'd all be suffering here including myself 5.huge amount of people in jails? so what? well i agree that there have been many people thrown in jail for minor crimes like the 3 strikes law we have in california but if you wanna fuck up and end up in jail its your problem...people should know the consequences |
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| Originally posted by dj adagnitio I cant be taken seriouselly because Im looking for excuses? How am I looking for excuses? everything I've said it completelly true. If I said that Iraq was a horrible place because it had a horrible dictator is that looking for an excuse? If you can disprove any of what Ive said then go right ahead. The high rate of gun crime: The majority of gun crimes and violence is not in any ghettos. Statisticly domestic violence and murder is much much more common. The sollution to ghettos that are very violent is not to have more police but to target the poverty that creates such a situation. Another solution would be to ban the sale of guns. It's true some people would still buy them illegaly, but there would be many many less. Legal system: I will refer to three examples. One was a kid who was 18 and was arrested selling one ounce of pot. This was his first offence and he was in college. He got 20 years in jail. Example two: That article someone posted where the person threw shit at a prison guard and got 50 years for it. Example three: If you are caught selling drugs within 100 metres of a housing project you recieve several additional years in jail. This is clearly very discriminatory against poor people, and since the majority of poor people in the states are black or espanic it is in effect racist. gap between rich and poor: I judge this simply by looking at the gini index. This is the globaly recognized statistical measure of inequality and the U.S. does quite badly compared to other rich nations. Civil Liberties: Im judging this based on powers of the FBI and CIA. And anti-drug and terrorist bills that allow your liberties to be completely suspended. Jails: It has been clearly shown time and time again that putting people in jails does not lower crime. It doesn't deal with the problems that cause crime in the slightest. It such huge amounts of money that states are falling apart. In Florida they had to let schools out three weeks early because they couldnt afford to pay the teachers passed that. theres a bill in Texas to cut the school week to 4 days because theyve spent all their money on prisons. You may be part of the lucky class of people in the States who has lots of money and these problems don't impact. But they do impact a lot of people and it's completelly ignorant to say just because you do fine it means that your country isn't a bad place overall. |
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| Originally posted by hardcore trancer aah good comeback,at least you know it is true,so you are not denying the fact that your country occupies any country it wishes!! |
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| Originally posted by TuanAnh213 OH BOO FUCKING HOO...so you think america can just haul ass into any country and make a complete takeover???? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA if that was case president bush would be Emperor Bush of Earth by now...yeah im sure we can just go into china and fight off 6 billion people, send over a couple nukes and take over china...im sure the internation community would quite enjoy that...yeah man whatever you say ... in the mean time go KHALALALALALA your dick up a donkey's ass |
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| Originally posted by Cyrus King You never cease to amaze me how misinformed you are about the implications that your govenrment was warned about before heading to war.... But people like you were probably waving their American flags around, proud your dispicable govenrment, whom has made the US basically the worlds most hated nation, cheer on the selfish intenetions that most people like you were probably to blinded by your own ignorance to see. Im glad at least you removed the picture of your mother from your avatar... at least people wont directly know you came out of a gorillas womb. |
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| Originally posted by TuanAnh213 OH BOO FUCKING HOO...so you think america can just haul ass into any country and make a complete takeover???? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA if that was case president bush would be Emperor Bush of Earth by now...yeah im sure we can just go into china and fight off 6 billion people, send over a couple nukes and take over china...im sure the internation community would quite enjoy that...yeah man whatever you say ... in the mean time go KHALALALALALA your dick up a donkey's ass |
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| Originally posted by TuanAnh213 wow there Cyrus...everyone take a deep breath and calm down lets start from the beginning first off...until today i barely ever posted in this forum...so i dont quite understand your statement about you never cease to be amazed by me...anyway i am not a tiesto14...i am not an overzealous patriotic ignorant flag waving american...i never supported GW hauling ass into iraq without ANY substantial reason other than saddam hussein is evil...so trust me im not misinformed our government may be despicable RIGHT NOW...im not gonna argue with that...not once did i ever say i supported GW and his regime i only started posting here because i was angered by unneeded bashing and ignorance towards america...look there is nothing wrong with criticism towards america considering everything that has happened is definetly debatable...but i couldn't ignore people calling america a horrible and despicable country because it is not anyway...hope u understand |
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| Originally posted by hardcore trancer go ahead go suck Bushes ass you cracker!!!!at least I dont have my mothers picture on my avatar,or have some fag dancing on my cig!! |
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| Originally posted by hardcore trancer go ahead go suck Bushes ass you cracker!!!!at least I dont have my mothers picture on my avatar,or have some fag dancing on my cig!! |
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| Originally posted by Cyrus King I agree with you that America is a great country....but its government is dispicable.. and more bad things out weight the good.... I also have a problem with the mind set that many americans have.. and i dont care if you call me prejudice or whatever..... but i truly beleive that many many many ameircans are disgustingly ignorant... YOu even have a show decicated at how stupid an average american person may possibly be....its called "street smarts" and its actually sad. Though there are many stupid canadians.... i dont beleive they are as ignorant as the American populace. |
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| Originally posted by Cyrus King ..... but i truly beleive that many many many ameircans are disgustingly ignorant... |
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| Originally posted by TuanAnh213 about many americans being disgustingly ignorant...blame it on our biased media...whatever the media tells the average american that average american is gonna believe it no matter what...its sickening i know |
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| Originally posted by MrSquirrel You will not find an argument from me (an American) on that point. In recent years it seems the proportion of ignorance has gotten worse, though it may just be that I am noticing it more because things like the internet have exposed me to more of them... MrS |
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| Originally posted by DrummeRaver86 the worst part is that people just don't want to learn. |
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| Originally posted by TuanAnh213 obviously you cannot retort or reply at even a semi - intelligent level...you have to resort to racist and homophobic insults...that already is enough for me to not take you seriously...anyway its way past your bedtime |
hardcore..let's be fair. you're not exactly "not talkin shit".
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| Originally posted by Izzy maybe you just got smarter and therefore everyone around you seems more ignorant to you now, maybe |
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| Originally posted by DrummeRaver86 hardcore..let's be fair. you're not exactly "not talkin shit". |
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| Originally posted by TuanAnh213 about many americans being disgustingly ignorant...blame it on our biased media...whatever the media tells the average american that average american is gonna believe it no matter what...its sickening i know |
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| Originally posted by TuanAnh213 lucky class? the fuck you smoking? im just another average middle class member of society...i live in a two story house, we got three cars...there are countless millions of other fellow american citizens living like that...its not like 90 percent of the american population are lower class poverty stricken people like in mexico...every country has its poor, middle class and rich people...for you to generalize on america and calling it a horrible place to live shows your true ignorance |
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| Originally posted by ProDiGaL at one stage 2/3rds of the american public thought saddam hussein was behind the 911 attacks, this is one of my favourite stats (source is bbc by the way) |
Some more facts which baffle the average human being....
before the 2nd Gulf war started, there was a high percentage of americans against it.
After the 1st bomb fell, the tides turned and most of the nation supported the war???
In australia, 70% or so were against the war as well, but our dickhead prime minister still sent our soldiers in.... Talk about democracy?
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