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Juno have it now:

PLASTIC BOY feat ROZALLA: Live Another Life (vocal mix) (Inferno) (ASF) (MP3)
pre-release 12": Live Another Life (vocal mix, original mix) (DJXFERN 59) [5.99] - add

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Originally posted by joeh Juno have it now: PLASTIC BOY feat ROZALLA: Live Another Life (vocal mix) (Inferno) (ASF) (MP3) pre-release 12": Live Another Life (vocal mix, original mix) (DJXFERN 59) [5.99] - add

ROFL
stop respecting this guy so much!!! (1# Producer TA).
I see he decided to stop making 120234 remixes that sound the same and start doing the thing that I hate the most : adding vocals to a track... ! if the song was based on the vocals from the begining I'd say its ok but if you add vocals to a good track (which IMO is not even close to silverbath and its preety blah) its only for $$$ , who needs this crap.
Now that's commercializing (altho every track made by anyone and gets released is also commercialize) .
Alot of pplz do this and I'd might do it aswell but still - this guy get so much repsect when is main interst is to make more money and less quality to use, and a perpect exmple is this vocal version...

Greetz ,

/m0sh

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Originally posted by m0sh ROFL stop respecting this guy so much!!! (1# Producer TA). I see he decided to stop making 120234 remixes that sound the same and start doing the thing that I hate the most : adding vocals to a track... ! if the song was based on the vocals from the begining I'd say its ok but if you add vocals to a good track (which IMO is not even close to silverbath and its preety blah) its only for $$$ , who needs this crap. Now that's commercializing (altho every track made by anyone and gets released is also commercialize) . Alot of pplz do this and I'd might do it aswell but still - this guy get so much repsect when is main interst is to make more money and less quality to use, and a perpect exmple is this vocal version... Greetz , /m0sh

he didnt choose to add the vocals. he sued for it last time.

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Originally posted by m0sh ROFL stop respecting this guy so much!!! (1# Producer TA). I see he decided to stop making 120234 remixes that sound the same and start doing the thing that I hate the most : adding vocals to a track... ! if the song was based on the vocals from the begining I'd say its ok but if you add vocals to a good track (which IMO is not even close to silverbath and its preety blah) its only for $$$ , who needs this crap. Now that's commercializing (altho every track made by anyone and gets released is also commercialize) . Alot of pplz do this and I'd might do it aswell but still - this guy get so much repsect when is main interst is to make more money and less quality to use, and a perpect exmple is this vocal version... Greetz , /m0sh

read the whole thread

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Originally posted by tor8024 read the whole thread

What he said.

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Originally posted by Civic never thought that vocals can kill a tune that much Open Your Eyes This could be paradies We live another live omg

open your eyes vocals rocked lol it wasnt even a lot of vocals..u mean the male vocals right

Ok maybe he didn't make that vocal version but :

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First of all, the - crappy - version you heard on that radioshow is NOT a genuine version! Rosalla made vocals to fit the tune, but the people at Inferno Records messed with it without Mike and BMG agreeing. So you're allowed to say that that vocal version sucks, Mike agrees with that, and most important, he had nothing to do with creating it! However, Mike did use the vocals Rosalla made for Live Another Life, but he made sure they fit into the track, not at all like Inferno's child's play! The reason for that is acceptable: Rosalla is still a big icon, so Mike considered it an honour that she wrote lyrics for a tune of his. And, maybe the most important part, Vocal Trance sells nowadays, and even an artist like Mike has to grab every possible opportunity to make money. So the vocal version has a commercial side, but Mike felt it was worth a try, and putting excellent vocals on an excellent tune, who could disagree with him?

Now guys that's commercializing
and it doesn't metter who made the vocals
I think that if you add vocals to a track that is already finished , released and successful is commercializing , so stop denying it

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Originally posted by m0sh Now guys that's commercializing and it doesn't metter who made the vocals I think that if you add vocals to a track that is already finished , released and successful is commercializing , so stop denying it

The main complaint about adding vocals to tracks that were without vocals in the first place is that they usually sound shit and are poorly done. However, we haven't heard the proper vocal version yet, so we really can't start to rant about bad vocals or not. I didn't see anyone complaning when vocals were added to Cass & Slide - Perception. Why? Cos they were good. And until we have heard the proper vocal version, we should really keep our mouths shut.

Yes, this is commercialization of a track, granted. But who cares about that if it sounds good?

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Originally posted by Sand Leaper Yes, this is commercialization of a track, granted. But who cares about that if it sounds good?

Well said.

Tho I fail to see pplz who would agree with u, its just the same as a pop song that sounds good - so I see no diff between mike version and the pop track.

People will say that pop sucks and that mike version is good and that's hypocritical

So I don't respect commercialization much but its ok to listen ... I mean you know...

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Originally posted by m0sh Well said. Tho I fail to see pplz who would agree with u, its just the same as a pop song that sounds good - so I see no diff between mike version and the pop track. People will say that pop sucks and that mike version is good and that's hypocritical So I don't respect commercialization much but its ok to listen ... I mean you know...

according to your statement, 'perception' is a pop song?

anyway, you're right that it is commercial. but there's a difference in that mike has added vocals that he likes himself. sure it results in some extra cash, but Milk inc. for example produce only to make money. they use some random bla bla vocals about love and release it. i'm pretty sure the producers don't really like any of their tracks. mike would do no such thing, i'm certain he would not have made a vocal version if he thought the vocals were dreadful.

wtf is this?????? i have the vocal version of this song with rozalla but it doesnt sound nething like this ...i didnt like that one either at first but i grew on me like crazy.. but this 1 sounds like the outtake version of it ...

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Originally posted by tor8024 according to your statement, 'perception' is a pop song? anyway, you're right that it is commercial. but there's a difference in that mike has added vocals that he likes himself. sure it results in some extra cash, but Milk inc. for example produce only to make money. they use some random bla bla vocals about love and release it. i'm pretty sure the producers don't really like any of their tracks. mike would do no such thing, i'm certain he would not have made a vocal version if he thought the vocals were dreadful.

its the same thing milk inc and that vocal version

don't be so naive, everyone wants money and need to for a living but it doesnt make them better

of course it is commercializing and the finished version is gonna sound shite even if mike puts out a thousand FX on top of that vocal.

but this crap incident is not enough for me to stop respecting this guy as m0sh suggested. he made way too many good tunes.

and i still think producers should have the right to make a few crap comercial tunes to get $$$. as long as they keep feeding us with quality tunes, like m.i.k.e. have been doing.

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Originally posted by paranoik0 and i still think producers should have the right to make a few crap comercial tunes to get $$$. as long as they keep feeding us with quality tunes, like m.i.k.e. have been doing.

That is the most ridiculous thing I heard

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Originally posted by m0sh That is the most ridiculous thing I heard

why? if you have the skills why don't make a few extra bucks?

well if he made a crap track under a new alias (or.. wait.. he did.. Positive Energy ) it wouldn't bother as much as turning a good track into shit.. but still.. if a producer keeps loyal to his fan base putting out good underground music regularly i don't see what's wrong to put out some obvious cheese on other project.

well it is ok , but after that I wouldn't deny the fact that he is "cheesey" and the respect for him will be much less.

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Originally posted by m0sh its the same thing milk inc and that vocal version don't be so naive, everyone wants money and need to for a living but it doesnt make them better

read my post again.

milk inc. release tunes they don't even like themselves, mike made sure he got a vocalist he respects. he'd never consider throwing a meaningless vocal on top of his track. he'll make sure the track sounds good before he releases it.

from milk inc.'s point of view, it would be something like "well it's not something i'd buy myself, but anyway we'll make lots of money with this!"

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Originally posted by paranoik0 well if he made a crap track under a new alias (or.. wait.. he did.. Positive Energy )

Oi! Positive Energy is great!

All these producers make endless music, but none of you buy it. Half of you are 'mp3kiddies' who just download everything, then complain when your favourite artists have to do the odd commercial track just to make ends meet.

Maybe when you all buy a few M.I.K.E records, then you can come back and call him a sellout, ok?

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Originally posted by joeh All these producers make endless music, but none of you buy it. Half of you are 'mp3kiddies' who just download everything, then complain when your favourite artists have to do the odd commercial track just to make ends meet. Maybe when you all buy a few M.I.K.E records, then you can come back and call him a sellout, ok?

tbh i agree but most people who download the tracks will buy them if they like them. It's rare that many of these tunes come out as cd singles and are infact just usually found on vinyl and not many people like the idea of buying a vinyl to just listen to it or dont have a turntable.

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Originally posted by Hequn tbh i agree but most people who download the tracks will buy them if they like them. It's rare that many of these tunes come out as cd singles and are infact just usually found on vinyl and not many people like the idea of buying a vinyl to just listen to it or dont have a turntable.

Well yeh, it is hard for people to get vinyl if they don't have a turntable, however I'm sure that you can get a cheap hi-fi turntable for �40 or something.

What really pisses me off, was like in a thread yesterday when people were sharing full artist albums and saying its just promotion for the artist. If downloading a full album is promotion, then what is it promotion for??

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Originally posted by joeh Well yeh, it is hard for people to get vinyl if they don't have a turntable, however I'm sure that you can get a cheap hi-fi turntable for �40 or something. What really pisses me off, was like in a thread yesterday when people were sharing full artist albums and saying its just promotion for the artist. If downloading a full album is promotion, then what is it promotion for??

yeh but like i said people find vinyl an inconvenience with the storage hassle, higher costs and such.

im not gonna lie and say i havent and dont download albums, because i do, but i for one am one who likes to know whats on the album, if the songs are any good or not etc. but if i like it then i WILL buy it and i know like you are stating, some dont.

But also tell me you've never bought and album that you didnt like and of course you didnt listen to before hand or you wouldnt of got it, then ill be astounded.

It's a never ending argument and no-one will ever win, my 64p's worth.

maybe m.i.k.e. can actually make some money for the first time

...and i really don't mind the vocals.

-reZ

Deja-vu.

Let's see: some vocals, destroyed a great track. Where have I seen this before?
Oh yes: Gouryella - Walhalla.

it wasn't that bad......

bwahahaha, who am I kidding here.......it was horrid.

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