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Posted by igottaknow on Sep-06-2003 15:39:

quote:
Originally posted by trancEyes22
people like you guys should be banned from having sex until you are fully educated on the dangers of having unprotected sex.

true dat, we have more than enough qualified canidates to start the Toothless, Non-condom wearing, STD alliance. I'm nominating clyde as President.


Posted by MrSquirrel on Sep-06-2003 16:49:

quote:
Originally posted by igottaknow
true dat, we have more than enough qualified canidates to start the Toothless, Non-condom wearing, STD alliance. I'm nominating clyde as President.


Second that.

MrS


Posted by SuperFarStucker on Sep-06-2003 18:18:

quote:
Originally posted by daffodil
although i'm tempted, i won't flame you for your ignorance because nobody knows everything.

gay people did not "start" AIDS, the HIV virus that causes AIDS developed in africa. it developed from transmissions between humans and monkeys but was only virulent to humans. some theories hypothesize that HIV is a mutation of the ebola virus. monkeys are not harmed when they are infected with the HIV virus.

comparison: rats carried the plague all the hell over europe during the middle ages and it was transmitted to humans when fleas that had bitten infected rats bit a human. no one knows why it didn't kill rats and was so devastating to humans, but it's the same deal with HIV between monkeys and humans.

if i have anything wrong here, please correct me because i went on memory and didn't double check anything.
They really don't know how HIV crossed the species barrier and it's not necessarily true that it came from monkeys. There are many unknowns about HIV and sadly their is a low chance of it ever being cured (or rather a cure found) with current medicinal technology. On a tangent here, it's more or less incontrevertible that the problem , ultimately is a social one and social reform is probably the only way it will ever stop spreading (i.e. never). It's a sad fact of life...

While it's probably true gay people didn't "start" aid's it is also true that the first diagnosed cases (and recognized deaths) from the disease were among homosexual men in the bay area (IIRC). I think, however, that homosexual subculture aided in the spread of the disease, especially before it was recognized.

On a side note, I'm 17, worn protection everytime I had sex, and have only had intercourse with 2 people.. My tool isn't falling off and the people I have had sex with weren't sluts... so I'd say with a degree of certainty I'm clean although I really want to get tested just to be sure, uncertainty about such issues,(even in small amounts) really freaks me out..


Posted by Orbax on Sep-06-2003 18:58:

quote:
Originally posted by trancEyes22
are you people RETARDED???? i'm beginning to think most of you in here bragging about all the STD's you've had and women you've had unprotected sex with, belong in the virgin thread cuz you know NOTHING about sex!!! clyde, i love ya babe, but you must be the dumbest man alive. you've already had 2 STD's and you wonder why!!! you've never worn a condom in your life?!?! you seem to get a lot of girls, and i know sex isnt as great with a condom on, but hell...i'd rather have a guy wear a condom once than suffer from HIV for the rest of my life. not only regarding STD's, but a girl can get pregnant ya know...and guys, this would be your problem too, not just the girls.

and orbax- THERE IS NO SAFE WAY TO HAVE UNPROTECTED SEX!! pulling out, or not using a condom are not safe ways. for the first time in my life, i agree with Mikey Mike.

people like you guys should be banned from having sex until you are fully educated on the dangers of having unprotected sex.


im talking about monogamous relationships, apparently this is an alien concept to you people


Posted by DaveSZ on Sep-06-2003 21:50:

quote:
Originally posted by astroboy
Just to play devil's advocate here: I know heaps of people who have been in long-term relationships and have switched from condoms to other forms of contraception. Because of the trust involved in these relationships, STD'a are not an issue and the methods of contraception they use are just as effective at preventing pregnancy as condoms... In this case it seems sex without a condom can be justified...



Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that as long as both people get tested and remain faithful to each other. Those viral STDS are scary shit/


Posted by MrSquirrel on Sep-06-2003 22:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
im talking about monogamous relationships, apparently this is an alien concept to you people


Maybe the concept was so alien that it became cylde's "personal reasons" ?

MrS


Posted by speedracer_mec on Sep-08-2003 02:56:

i need new pistons and rods


Posted by mute79 on Sep-08-2003 10:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Clyde77
ive never worn a condom in my whole life

condoms take away the happiness.! and they smell bad


true, they do suck, especially if you end up getting non lubricated ones, ugh... anyways, i'd rather wear it and not play russian roulette... i used to have a gf that was quite, ehm, experienced, ya, she was great, umm, right, ok, so yea, we fucked for a while with a condom until we both agreed to go together and get tested... fuck it, i dunno where she's been, and i really didnt care either, lol... it was prolly the only 'relationship' i enjoyed... i hate relationships, one night stands are much better, no headaches, no obligations, no responsibilities, etc...

yeah, ok, enough from me, its 6am, i know, shut up


Posted by montie on Sep-08-2003 10:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Vanilla
I got mono a week after the first time I ate a girl out. You think that would scare me away, but it doesnt.


me too!


Posted by chojin on Sep-08-2003 10:58:

Read This!

no STD for me, no sex for me neither.


Posted by montie on Sep-08-2003 10:59:

quote:
Originally posted by SuperFarStucker
They really don't know how HIV crossed the species barrier and it's not necessarily true that it came from monkeys. There are many unknowns about HIV and sadly their is a low chance of it ever being cured (or rather a cure found) with current medicinal technology. On a tangent here, it's more or less incontrevertible that the problem , ultimately is a social one and social reform is probably the only way it will ever stop spreading (i.e. never). It's a sad fact of life...

While it's probably true gay people didn't "start" aid's it is also true that the first diagnosed cases (and recognized deaths) from the disease were among homosexual men in the bay area (IIRC). I think, however, that homosexual subculture aided in the spread of the disease, especially before it was recognized.

On a side note, I'm 17, worn protection everytime I had sex, and have only had intercourse with 2 people.. My tool isn't falling off and the people I have had sex with weren't sluts... so I'd say with a degree of certainty I'm clean although I really want to get tested just to be sure, uncertainty about such issues,(even in small amounts) really freaks me out..


one of the reasons they think it was so prevelent in the gay community was because of a person called agent x.
agent x was a gay individual who worked as a steward for some airline. he worked a regular route form san fran to nyc (i think). anyway this guy somehow picked up the virus and was very very promiscuous. having sex with a different person almost every nite he went out to party. now he would go out and party in san fran. and nyc along with any other cities he visited whilst working for hte airline.
so you have a guy flying all over the place who has a minimum of two new sexual partners a week. so he's spreading it all over the states, while the numerous guys he's doing are picking it up and spreading it to others. they say this guy had almost 300 different sexual partners


Posted by occrider on Sep-08-2003 15:54:

http://www.avert.org/origins.htm

quote:

International Travel

The role of international travel in the spread of HIV was highlighted by the case of 'Patient Zero'. Patient Zero was a Canadian flight attendant called Gaetan Dugas who travelled extensively worldwide. Analysis of several of the early cases of AIDS showed that the infected individuals were either direct or indirect sexual contacts of the flight attendant. These cases could be traced to several different American cities demonstrating the role of international travel in spreading the virus. It also suggested that the disease was probably the consequence of a single transmissible agent.


[sings]Blame Canada, blame Canada, it seems that everythings gone wrong since Canada came along, blame
Canada, blame Canada ... [/sings]


Posted by Mikado on Sep-08-2003 16:22:

Be Cool!

quote:
Originally posted by occrider
[sings]Blame Canada, blame Canada, it seems that everythings gone wrong since Canada came along, blame
Canada, blame Canada ... [/sings]

My ignorant American friend u have no idea..
U say blame Canada, but for what?
Everything weve done to Spamerica has been covered up and hidden from your ignorant eyes.
U fat americans have no idea what weve got in store for u.
By the time u discover what were up too itl be to late for the land of the free.

America might be able to fight terrorists but what will your trillion dollar army do against the millions of enlisted beavers and moose infantry? WHo wins in a dog fight? 12 million dollar helicopter or a massive flock of Canadian geese? What will your depleated uranium bullets and cluster bombs do against 3 foot thick ice igloos we live in? NOTHING THATS WHAT!!! WHAT THE FUK U GONA DO? NUKE US?
BIG DEAL nuklear winter sets in. We would be right at home. It would be like summer for us.


Posted by occrider on Sep-08-2003 16:27:

You cannot beat our superior tactics, we will send our first attack wave of operation human shield to make you think that you are winning. However we will quickly follow that up with operation get behind the darkies and there you'll be defeated!


Posted by Mikado on Sep-08-2003 16:33:

Be Cool!

quote:
Originally posted by occrider
You cannot beat our superior tactics, we will send our first attack wave of operation human shield to make you think that you are winning. However we will quickly follow that up with operation get behind the darkies and there you'll be defeated!


LOL! U FOOL! DONT U know that in Canada theres no racism? DO u know what this meanS! OPPERATION GET BEHIND THE DARKIES AND HUMAN SHILED are thwarted by your own military as all blacks defect and join the CANADIAN EMPIRE. Along with the mexicans, spanish, Natives and the the most annoying, scary, dangerous and lethal army of all time

..................... GREEEN PEACE .....................

WE WIN AND WE MARCH ON THE CAPITAL AND BURN IT DOWN FOR THE SECOND TIME !!! AND DONT ACT LIKE U FORGOT ABOUT HOW WE BURNED IT DOWN WAY BACK IN THE DAY. U KNOW WHAT HAPPEND.

AHAHAHAHA CANADA 2 AMERICA 0 !!!!


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