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Posted by Rudy on Jul-22-2001 12:08:

Hey FastDJMP3 my question was seriously meant, and I did not mean to insult you! I was just wondering you know, cause here in Holland almost 7% of the population is Moroccan! And they don't adapt to our system! But I do understand your situation, because you are only temporarely living in the US!

So I'm sorry if I have insulted you, but this is just a very very big problem in Holland! So I'm kinda into that right now!

Laterz

Posted by Dj Lex on Jul-22-2001 12:39:

Yes especially in our villages Rudy. The Hague, Rotterdam, Amsterdam. Randstad.
Hey Jonu we hear nothing from you? Have you called?

Posted by TranceFool on Jul-22-2001 13:19:

Plz Rudy make a new thread for your silly question, cause otherwise Swamper has to close this, many people can see this as racism, so close that subject and go back to the SE Stuiver, cause i wanna know the value!!!!!

Posted by Dj Lex on Jul-22-2001 13:23:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceFool
Plz Rudy make a new thread for your silly question, cause otherwise Swamper has to close this, many people can see this as racism, so close that subject and go back to the SE Stuiver, cause i wanna know the value!!!!!

Hey you never gonna know he value, cause Juno is off this forum. His cable conection is closed, so no long internet sessions for him anymore.

Posted by TranceFool on Jul-22-2001 14:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Lex

Hey you never gonna know he value, cause Juno is off this forum. His cable conection is closed, so no long internet sessions for him anymore.

Ohh, that sux!

Posted by Kartikeya on Jul-22-2001 18:29:

gast, relax

Damn i just came back from the beachOKAY first of all stop acting like a furious nutcase and i will explain something to you.......

listen like rudy already told you the shit is going really wrong in our country and that's for a big part the fault of a certain group of Morocan people in Holland (they are responsible for a lot of crime and act like nationalists)......

then when I see some of these extreme Morrocan Nationalistic talks here

quote:
Originally posted by FASTDJMP3
First of all i am Moroccan and i will ALWAYS be a Moroccan wether you like it or not . I'm proud of being it . Why do u want me to adapt to the country i am living in ? i am in Canada for my studies ONLY and trust me i am civilized and i act better than some Canadian wankers . Plus you don't have to tell me to adapt myself or not , it's none of your business . And i don't fucking care about Moroccans adaptating or not in Holland , it's their problem not mine . As long as i don't make any trouble in the society where i live , I AM WELL ADAPTADED . What do u expect from me to do ? because now i live in Canada i have to put in my Avatar the Canadian flag and call myself the Canadian trancEaddict ? Hell no that's stupid , and that's the big difference between you & me . I left my country to study but i am still proud of it and i still love it . And u (or anyone else) will never stop that trust me . Forover Moroccan

I just wanted to joke with you....hey could i help it the rest of world is symphatic (except lots of Dutch people).....

But then you start fighting fire with fire.....
you don't like a joke we made about you .... you start doing the same back...that's not very smart...

quote:
Originally posted by FASTDJMP3

i am in Canada for my studies ONLY and trust me i am civilized and i act better than some Canadian wankers . And i don't fucking care about Moroccans adaptating or not in Holland , it's their problem not mine .

You start insulting Canadians....The country were you are staying!!!!
this is exactly the attitude what Rudy and a lot of other Dutch people are seeing in our country.

and somewhere else you mentioned "Dutch People being drug dealers and
prostitutes"

if you don't like something someone tells you don't say the same kind of thingback......Haleluja

And again it was all just a joke okay so relax now!!!
let your aggresive spirit rest......

Posted by Blik on Jul-22-2001 18:35:

ehh Kartikeya, please shut the fuck up, you just made the situation worse.........

Djfastmp3, don't pay attention to them

back to the subject..............SE Stuiver

Posted by Kartikeya on Jul-22-2001 18:52:

Okay i will be quite from now on.....

BTW be nice now FASTMP3Man and Juno
because i did some research work for you!

I called a friend of my Uncle, Klaas Hendrik,
who is a coin-collector

and I ask the value for an SE Stuiver and He would value it
at round the 10000 euro if it's in perfect shape without any damage on it.
the value of it decreases drastily if its not in a good shape anymore.

Hope the Peace has returned again,

Greetz,

K A R T

Posted by Miss Proximus on Jul-22-2001 21:02:

R.E.S.P.E.C.T to Taha...and Rudy, Kartikeya..stop SKIMMING through the posts and start READING them, cuz Fastdjmp3 is NOT in the US but in CANADA (was that so hard to understand???) and all immigrants behave differently in other parts of the world...and PLEEZZ don't call him a nationalist (in the bad meant way) because it is perfectly natural to be proud of your country once you move to a different country with a different culture.....HELL, the Moroccons in Holland are even the fokking third or fourth generation..can you still call them Moroccons? I think they are Dutch, just like the rest of us....
and Rudy..you were not being serious, you just get off on hurting people

Posted by Rudy on Jul-22-2001 22:40:

I'm not serious??????? WTF! Bloody damn hell I am serious! This is exactly what I am talking about, people who close their eyes for the great problems that lay ahead of us! 10 % of our population is foreigner! And like 5% of it is fugative because of the bad political situations in their country!! They went out of their country because of civil wars! And I do have respect for these guys! However, after 10 years the situation in their home country is back to normal, but they don't go back! And this is where the problem starts! These people can't decently speak the language and they don't adapt to the Dutch culture, and therefore it is difficult for them to find a job! So they don't have money! This leads to violence! A fact, 85% of the juvinile crimes in Holland is caused by foreigners! And now I am not even talking about the extraordinary high population density!

So Miss P., this is going to be a very very big problem for our generation! You said that the fouth generation can be called dutch! Well some of these guys can be called Dutch, but others are still not willing to adapt! They are all living together in "Ghetto's" where they have their own culture! Nothing wrong with that! But this way they can't fit in the Dutch society, and therefore can't get a decent job! We have to make solutions! But whenever you comment on their behaviour, it will be condemnded as Racism! I am not a racist, I just want to find a proper sollution for this coming problem! And that's why I asked FastDJMP3 with all respect about Moroccan traditions, or their way of thinking!

Miss P. we have had our fights, but I am not trying to hurt people over here! I just want to show you my ideas! I have nothing against foreigners, I just want to think about a solution in which they can fit in the Dutch society, and can get a better life!

Well call me a racist, but I am NOT!!!!!!

Ps. I am gone for a couple of weeks, I won't bother you anymore, and this thread will hopefully continue with the original subjec! Sorry for the interruption!

Posted by Kartikeya on Jul-22-2001 23:07:

agree

I agree with Rudy.....

and again i tell you I am not a Racist and I know Rudy and he
certainly isn't one.....

Probably more than 3/4 of the nation shares our thoughts

and we both didn't want to disturb the peace in this thread but fellow trance addicts please try to understand our views to certain groups of Foreigners (incl Moroccans)

I also want to share my ideas about the "Iman". this weird ******
from Morocco is the spiritual leader of the Moroccans in Holland.

He Stated that: - "Europeans had a lower IQ than Pigs"
- "Gay people should be punished"

okay Fast MP3 Man does this reach your brains.....
do you think that;s fuckin NORMAL!!!!!!!!!

HOW COME THAT SHOULD BE ACCEPTED?

okay so do now understand why lots of people
hate these people......because their fuckin illegal nutcases and

THEY JUST FUCKIN RUIN OUR BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY AND ARE DESTROYING OUR DEMOCRACY AND CULTURE

F I N

Posted by Kartikeya on Jul-22-2001 23:11:

okay i hope you won't be playing the "sentimental" boy in this thread anymore......

this is not ment to offend or harm any trance-addict on this forum

Happy Holiday fellow trance addicts

Greetz,

K A R T

Posted by Miss Proximus on Jul-23-2001 09:40:

this just raises a big questionmark...????????????????

Posted by TranceFool on Jul-23-2001 09:47:

Make another thread for that subject, if you find that necessary. That subject is very difficult to discuss with people who doesnt live in Holland, so there some miscommunications. Close that subject NOW!!!

How far R we with the SE Stuiver?????

Posted by fastmp3 on Jul-23-2001 11:25:

Ok guys i'm gonna start a thread in the holland forum and we will talk about this problem . See you there

Posted by TranceFool on Jul-23-2001 11:48:

quote:
Originally posted by FASTDJMP3
Ok guys i'm gonna start a thread in the holland forum and we will talk about this problem . See you there

Good idea!!

Posted by fastmp3 on Jul-23-2001 12:21:

ok it's done

Posted by Miss Proximus on Jul-23-2001 13:24:

Juno is away anyway, so he won't be telling us about the stuiver I think

Posted by Tranzmit on Jul-23-2001 13:47:

This has got to be the STRANGEST thread I've ever read. WTF?? Ok everyone just chill. Fastdjmp relax and all you nationalistic Dutchies relax too.

I get riled up too when someone makes an ignorant and broad statement about my home country too so try to understand that everyone will get angry about this stuff as it's a sensitive subject so don't go there. Peace and respect to you all.

Let us know what happens Juno as I'm kinda curious now too. We're waiting

Posted by Nastra Azzurro on Jul-23-2001 14:19:

Ok what im am seeing right now in al these replies is sad. Its true that alot of people have problems in this thread but all i wanna do is ignite the flame again and have a flame war again by sayin:

I LOVE TEGGGGGGGGKNOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

whooooooooooohHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHHA

Peace peeps

TEQNO GURU HAS SPOKEN

hehe lol

Posted by Miss Proximus on Jul-23-2001 15:26:

nastra....wat ben je toch een poepie

Posted by magrec on Jul-23-2001 17:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Nastra Azzurro
Ok what im am seeing right now in al these replies is sad. Its true that alot of people have problems in this thread but all i wanna do is ignite the flame again and have a flame war again by sayin:

I LOVE TEGGGGGGGGKNOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

whooooooooooohHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHHA

Peace peeps

TEQNO GURU HAS SPOKEN

hehe lol

LOL hehehe....i'm going to my grandfather nxt weekend probably maybe he has also a stuiver....he even had a 1 CENT Coin.

Posted by Dj Lex on Jul-23-2001 18:38:

quote:
Originally posted by magrec

LOL hehehe....i'm going to my grandfather nxt weekend probably maybe he has also a stuiver....he even had a 1 CENT Coin.

Wow a 1 cent coin!!!!! From which year.
Maybe it is a SE 1 cent coin. You never know.

Posted by DJ Juno on Jul-24-2001 15:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Vinyl Boy
Hey Juno,

I've been searching the web for you, because I too am very curious how much the SE Stuiver ('88) is worth. I found a guy on the internet who sells and buys rare coins. I'll include the phone number, so you can give him a call.

Here it is: 0031610198317

Be careful, don't loose it and I've just joined this thread, but It can't be stressed enough how lucky you are.

One piece of advice: these salesmen are always trying to rip you off and there is a chance the man will tell you it's worth practically nothing, but hang in there!! and don't let him fool you, alright??

Let us know how much it was worth and stuff.

GOOD LUCK!!!!!!!
i just tryed #, and got one of them automated voice things that says this isnt a #. soo i duno... anyone else have any good ideas i could check up with??? (btw, im on me gf's AOL account, so i may be around more then i thought )

Posted by Dj Lex on Jul-25-2001 19:11:

Hey that is great.
No options here.

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