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thats what I thought.

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Originally posted by Orbax ok here is something you didnt know THREE TYPES OF AREA NETWORKS LANS MANS WANS if you know what all of those are and can define them continue speaking, or shut the fuck up.

Local area network
Metropolitan area network
Wide area network

.. Now tell me the difference between an intranet and the internet.

Oh, and unlike you, I am doing other things that sitting there refreshing this page ..
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"Internet � the web site has no restrictions on who can see and use the material. It is available to the whole world. Some web sites available on the Internet may require registration to gain access to them, either to personalise the information being provided or to extract payment for using the site (the whole world can know of its existence, but there are conditions related to its use).

Intranet � a web site with restricted access based on an organisational group. Access to the web sites is controlled on an organisational basis using �behind the scenes� user identification techniques, such as logging in to the network. The knowledge of the existence of the information is confined to the organisational group with access. Within DoE there are several Intranets including the DoE Intranet to which all DoE staff have access and business unit Intranets with access restricted to the members of individual business units (including schools). School Intranets are typically only available to the staff and students within the schools"
http://www.doe.tased.edu.au/wiseweb/intervsintra.htm
Checkmate.

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Originally posted by Vert Local area network Metropolitan area network Wide area network .. Now tell me the difference between an intranet and the internet. Oh, and unlike you, I am doing other things that sitting there refreshing this page .. es

also unlike you im doing this from memory and not the world wide web.

the difference between an intranet and an internet is simply the protocols binding them. if you use tcp/ip to communicatite its internet. between networks is what the really means.

intra network is within a network and is ipx/spx netbeui althought not used much anymore and a number of non-microsoft protocols that adapt to mac and unix systems.

do you want more?

Read up. Very few networks use netbeui and ipx anymore. You are fighting a loosing battle, trying to take this in other directions. Its not about protocol, its about what it is and how it is used.

es

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Originally posted by Vert Read up. Very few networks use netbeui and ipx anymore. You are fighting a loosing battle, trying to take this in other directions. Its not about protocol, its about what it is and how it is used. es

thats just bass ackwards. Ill hold my response until you make a valid point.

So much hate.

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Originally posted by Orbax thats just bass ackwards. Ill hold my response until you make a valid point.

Internet vs. Intranet
Definitions

Internet � the web site has no restrictions on who can see and use the material. It is available to the whole world. Some web sites available on the Internet may require registration to gain access to them, either to personalise the information being provided or to extract payment for using the site (the whole world can know of its existence, but there are conditions related to its use).

Intranet � a web site with restricted access based on an organisational group. Access to the web sites is controlled on an organisational basis using �behind the scenes� user identification techniques, such as logging in to the network. The knowledge of the existence of the information is confined to the organisational group with access. Within DoE there are several Intranets including the DoE Intranet to which all DoE staff have access and business unit Intranets with access restricted to the members of individual business units (including schools). School Intranets are typically only available to the staff and students within the schools

Thats how it is. You were wrong. Stop using lowball tactics to make it look like you were right. endgame. You said there were many internets, when infact there is only one. There is many intranets.

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Originally posted by Vert Internet vs. Intranet Definitions Internet � the web site has no restrictions on who can see and use the material. It is available to the whole world. Some web sites available on the Internet may require registration to gain access to them, either to personalise the information being provided or to extract payment for using the site (the whole world can know of its existence, but there are conditions related to its use). Intranet � a web site with restricted access based on an organisational group. Access to the web sites is controlled on an organisational basis using �behind the scenes� user identification techniques, such as logging in to the network. The knowledge of the existence of the information is confined to the organisational group with access. Within DoE there are several Intranets including the DoE Intranet to which all DoE staff have access and business unit Intranets with access restricted to the members of individual business units (including schools). School Intranets are typically only available to the staff and students within the schools Thats how it is. You were wrong. Stop using lowball tactics to make it look like you were right. endgame. You said there were many internets, when infact there is only one. There is many intranets. es

you actually just proved yourself more wrong than I could have at the moment. Cheers, and thanks.

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Originally posted by Orbax you actually just proved yourself more wrong than I could have at the moment. Cheers, and thanks.

There goes your lowballing tactics. If I were wrong I would admit defeat. Do the same courtesey. Or proove why that is wrong. It is not a valid arguement to say some bullshit about how you are right and not proove it. I'm serious, proove your point intelligently without having to call names or say how stupid you think I am.

es

u bunch of silicon valley geeks with plaided shirts and pocket protectors

stfu will ya!

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Originally posted by Vert There goes your lowballing tactics. If I were wrong I would admit defeat. Do the same courtesey. Or proove why that is wrong. es

ok. the definition of the internet was something everyone could see but not use. If you are familiar with user groups and user admin tools at all you would know this. I can SEE microsoft networks, i juts dont have access because either my IP range or my username does not fit into any know acceptable user groups. That is an internet to me.

The peopel who walk into microsoft and clock in and type in their little user names are accessing the same thing that I see from my house, but they get access to it through user admin, thus they have an intra net because they are either in a virtual ip range or in the accepted range allocated by the admin.

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Originally posted by Orbax ok. the definition of the internet was something everyone could see but not use. If you are familiar with user groups and user admin tools at all you would know this. I can SEE microsoft networks, i juts dont have access because either my IP range or my username does not fit into any know acceptable user groups. That is an internet to me. The peopel who walk into microsoft and clock in and type in their little user names are accessing the same thing that I see from my house, but they get access to it through user admin, thus they have an intra net because they are either in a virtual ip range or in the accepted range allocated by the admin.

You just said exactly what I just said. How useless of an arguement we've had.

es

and to clarify, AGAIN, they ARE bounded by protocols. If you think otherwise, this converation is totally over. I can make a network that no one outside of the company could see, yet it reaced across the world. thats an internet. You couldnt see it though. so its an intra net?

also...do you know what youre talking about? I do.

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Originally posted by speedracer_mec u bunch of silicon valley geeks with plaided shirts and pocket protectors stfu will ya!

Geeks own you.

es

becareful its not a man waiting to rape you

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Originally posted by Orbax and to clarify, AGAIN, they ARE bounded by protocols. If you think otherwise, this converation is totally over. I can make a network that no one outside of the company could see, yet it reaced across the world. thats an internet. You couldnt see it though. so its an intra net? also...do you know what youre talking about? I do.

Yes they are bounded by protocols, but in the majority of the cases that is tcp/ip. That would be vpn or technology like that. If it is restricted I suppose it could be considered intranet. I'm not really into logistics.

Yes some intranets are accessible via the internet with the correct authorization, but that does not make them part of the internet. The internet by defintion is generally public.

es

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Originally posted by Vert . The internet by defintion is generally public. es

actually the defnition of the internet is what I gave you from the dictionary...

and you said generally in your first statement again...i dont care if 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of internet access is on THE internet, the other .0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 is another internet and still accessed, meaning that more than 1 exist, and thus you are wrong.

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Originally posted by Orbax actually the defnition of the internet is what I gave you from the dictionary... and you said generally in your first statement again...i dont care if 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of internet access is on THE internet, the other .0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 is another internet and still accessed, meaning that more than 1 exist, and thus you are wrong.

It is all one internet. If it uses dns servers and its connected somewhere and is accessible in some way shape or form by the public its is the one internet. Find me a link that shows that there are more than one internet. Prove your statments, or they are nothing but hot air. Problem is, that there is not ".0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001%" out there.
Actually I gave the definition of the internet.."An interconnected system of networks that connects computers around the world via the TCP/IP protocol."
Start using links and proving shit, otherwise NOTHING you say makes any difference to me or anyone.

es

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Originally posted by Vert It is all one internet. If it uses dns servers and its connected somewhere and is accessible in some way shape or form by the public its is the one internet. Find me a link that shows that there are more than one internet. Prove your statments, or they are nothing but hot air. Problem is, that there is not ".0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001%" out there. es

This is just one of those things you are wrong in. and you have no way of explaining your bullshit without using website definitions. You have never built a network, you arent currently buidling one, and you never will. If you can convince me why I should waste my time enlightening you, ill continue, but so far you sound like a fucking 15 year old that shared his music drive to his parents and is all of a sudden a networking guru.

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Originally posted by Orbax This is just one of those things you are wrong in. and you have no way of explaining your bullshit without using website definitions. You have never built a network, you arent currently buidling one, and you never will. If you can convince me why I should waste my time enlightening you, ill continue, but so far you sound like a fucking 15 year old that shared his music drive to his parents and is all of a sudden a networking guru.

Now you are using lowballing insults again when I proove a point. I'm not asking you to stay here and have this 'conversation' with me. You don't know me, you cannot make those assumptions. Now you can say all the shit in the world but without backing it up its nothing. And if you cannot handle a simple contentious conversation without calling names and trying to imagine what my life is like, then you aren't mature enough. I use website definitions because it is proof. Without them we could go on and on for hours saying "I'm right you're wrong", "NO You are wrong I'm right". If you cannot understand that then you should have not been in this in the first place.
Wait, you are drunk. No wonder most of the things you said made little sense.
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Originally posted by Vert I use website definitions because it is proof.

ELVIS IS ALIVE!!!

MOON LANDING IS A FAKE

you are right, websites ARE proof. Good call.

Pics of multiple internets or STFU

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Originally posted by Orbax ELVIS IS ALIVE!!! MOON LANDING IS A FAKE you are right, websites ARE proof. Good call.

You get the general idea, nobody is going to make websites with fake networking information on them. I guess you cannot handle a mature discussion on this. I'm done. Good luck or whatever with your project if you weren't lying..
The guys at work will get a kick out of this thread tomorrow.
es

haha nice save Vert. Whereas networking sites CANT be fake, NASA ones sure as shit are? Youre fucking pathetic. Go hide in a hole somewhere.

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Originally posted by Orbax actually the defnition of the internet is what I gave you from the dictionary... and you said generally in your first statement again...i dont care if 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of internet access is on THE internet, the other .0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 is another internet and still accessed, meaning that more than 1 exist, and thus you are wrong.

Ha, I knew I will be able to prove you wrong sooner or later. Your statistics are incorrect, as they add up to 100.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000099999999999999%, which is impossible!!!

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