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Originally posted by mto X is illegal because it screws you up, nothing good about it.

Yes because ecstasy makes you drive impaired killing 1000s of people a year, gives you liver cancer, is addictive, makes you beat your wife / girlfriend, get in one night stands and impregnate someone that might ruin your life forever, fight people for no reason, have generally violent behavior, etc...

But alcohol doesn't do that.

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Originally posted by UWM Yes because ecstasy makes you drive impaired killing 1000s of people a year, gives you liver cancer, is addictive, makes you beat your wife / girlfriend, get in one night stands and impregnate someone that might ruin your life forever, fight people for no reason, have generally violent behavior, etc... But alcohol doesn't do that.

Lol, you are talking to me like I'm an alcoholic. I consume alcohol, 1 bottle of beer, maybe every 2 months. I grew up with a father who was and still is an alcoholic, and believe me I know what alcohol does. That's why I stay away from it and that's why I never drink liqour, only a bottle of beer rarely.

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Originally posted by mto X is illegal because it screws you up,

Ffs. Read the last few pages of this thread.

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I saw a guy drop in a middle of the floor first time he consumed a bean. He survived though, thank God.

Listen. Theres 3 reasons why stuff like that happens:
1. The pill was bad. If e was legal he couldve bought pure pills with none of the shit that gets put into illegal 1s.
2. Dehydration. If e was legal there would be a lot of government info on how to use it safely. Chances are he wouldve drank enough to avoid that.
3. Water overdose. If e was legal there would be a lot of government info on how to use it safely. That would include telling people not to kill themselves by drinking too much water.
If he took a pharmaceutical grade pure mdma pill, that would not have happened. In fact just about every 'e death' could be avoided, because its NOT THE E THAT DOES IT.

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Originally posted by mto Lol, you are talking to me like I'm an alcoholic. I consume alcohol, 1 bottle of beer, maybe every 2 months. I grew up with a father who was and still is an alcoholic, and believe me I know what alcohol does. That's why I stay away from it and that's why I never drink liqour, only a bottle of beer rarely.

I'm not talking to you like YOU are an alcoholic.

You just keep saying how horrible illegal drugs are and why people should stay away from them, and I was illustrating how dangerous legal drugs can be.

That's all.

I'm done.

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Originally posted by djSlain why are the police trying to stop raves? its not because of anything EXCEPT for the fact that people want to keep doing drugs. MY RIGHT TO GO PARTYING is now in jeopardy because of something i don't even do. The government has to change for you? it all has to revolve around people who don't know how to appreaciate a smile and find solace , and eventualy will never do with all the muscles deteriorated. I cant go partying because YOU idiots want to go "ooooooo" "look at the colors" "purple is a fruit". forget it. if these electronic get togethers are going to be illegal, i'll be fucking glad that our scene will go back to the music and not the requirement of being some dumbfuck drugged up raver when does american idol part 3 start showing?

Do u ever give up? Ur a fucking knob.

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Originally posted by DJ-Fuq Ffs. Read the last few pages of this thread. Listen. Theres 3 reasons why stuff like that happens: 1. The pill was bad. If e was legal he couldve bought pure pills with none of the shit that gets put into illegal 1s. 2. Dehydration. If e was legal there would be a lot of government info on how to use it safely. Chances are he wouldve drank enough to avoid that. 3. Water overdose. If e was legal there would be a lot of government info on how to use it safely. That would include telling people not to kill themselves by drinking too much water. If he took a pharmaceutical grade pure mdma pill, that would not have happened. In fact just about every 'e death' could be avoided, because its NOT THE E THAT DOES IT.

I see. Well you do know more on the subject, I respect everything you've said. I just don't believe its a way to go, and I really do have a good time clubbing without consuming any of this stuff.

that's great UWM. no alchhol AND no drugs! u saved the day. now preach on!

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Originally posted by UWM is addictive,

And look how dangerous that particular addiction is. A withdrawl symptom of alcohol is death.

did i post a fiction story?
ok, ur turn. tell me why parties are under constant investigation of the law?

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Originally posted by djSlain that's great UWM. no alchhol AND no drugs! u saved the day. now preach on!

Have you ever posted anything that made any sense whatsoever?


Because that didn't.

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Originally posted by mto I see. Well you do know more on the subject, I respect everything you've said. I just don't believe its a way to go, and I really do have a good time clubbing without consuming any of this stuff.

So do plenty of other people. U dont need drugs to enjoy urself. The music is good enough for that on its own. Some drugs just make it better than it would be without them.

aren't u anti-alcohol? and if fuq is right about alcohol being a drug, shouldn't u be anti drug as well?

what am i doing to hurt the electonic music scene? loving music over the drugs?

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Originally posted by djSlain aren't u anti-alcohol? and if fuq is right about alcohol being a drug, shouldn't u be anti drug as well?

No I'm not anti alcohol.

I drink and on occasion I consume narcotics for my personal enjoyment.

I was just trying to show how legal drugs are as dangerous (if not more) than illegal ones.

And I go to parties all the time sober so don't start using that argument.

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Originally posted by djSlain what am i doing to hurt the electonic music scene? loving music over the drugs?

No, pissing off the clubbers more like with ur annoying trolling crap.

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Originally posted by UWM No I'm not anti alcohol. I drink and on occasion I consume narcotics for my personal enjoyment. I was just trying to show how legal drugs are as dangerous (if not more) than illegal ones. And I go to parties all the time sober so don't start using that argument.

But why do i have to be forced by the government to not attend clubs and parties because of something i've never participated in? i'm not the only one in this position, ALL partiers, druggies or not, will give this right up if we continue to push the relationship of drugs and parties.

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Originally posted by djSlain But why do i have to be forced by the government to not attend clubs and parties because of something i've never participated in? i'm not the only one in this position, ALL partiers, druggies or not, will give this right up if we continue to push the relationship of drugs and parties.

Why do I have to be forced by the government to pay taxes for programs that I will never participate in?

Why does a large % of my seg fees go to student organizations I could care less about, and some heavily dislike?

Life isn't fair.

I party responsibly, I'm not that guy who's seizing on the floor because he is an idiot and doesn't know how to handle himself.

It's that guy making the scene look bad.

are u really ready to give up your right to legally party over a pill?

just a q, what keeps u from doing x when u party sober?
and
while u are sober, are u longing to be ON x?

btw, u made a good point about the guy seizing on the floor. i know u say that u party safe, but would it ever change ur mind if somehow u, or a friend was giving a really bad pill?

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Originally posted by djSlain But why do i have to be forced by the government to not attend clubs and parties because of something i've never participated in? i'm not the only one in this position, ALL partiers, druggies or not, will give this right up if we continue to push the relationship of drugs and parties.

why do you complain about the "druggies" making it unfair for you?
what about the government making it unfair for everyone?

Hi Dj-Fuq

Originally posted by U:
"Well, u said it urself. U ABUSED it. What ur saying doesnt really make sense. U are the 1 at fault here, not the drug."

Um why are you so defensive? If I didntmake sense, let me explain... before I took it had I known E was going to f.uck me up I NEEDLESS to say, never would have done it. Where is the line between so called "abuse" and taking in "moderation"? Whos to say? there is a very thin line because everyone is different. I will never condone drugs and I am hoping that someone will read something I wrote and be turned off of E and never take it. Do you go around telling people its ok to take it? I never will I don't believe in that

Posted By U:
"Whos doing that? I myself have posted links that explain the damage e does."

I have never mentioned your name or anyone elses...so I dunno where ur going with that. I am glad u have posted positive links!

U again:
"U too? For ur info, i havnt taken e in 2 years."

GREAT! I am glad u haven't taken it in 2 years. Again I dont know who u are and I didn't take note of your posts or your name, I just read and posted my thoughts.

U one last time:
"People who arent prepared to use drugs responsibly should not be using them at all."

Now that comment takes the cake! I must say! I am not an 'expert' with drugs, I have never smoked weed before, I have never tried anything other than E, So how the hell can u imply that I wasnt prepared to use drugs responsibly????!!! LOL What an OXYMORON using drugs reposibly.

Anyhow I just wanted to share my expereince...didnt want to frazzle u

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Originally posted by djSlain are u really ready to give up your right to legally party over a pill?

If stopping taking pills would mean all clubs would stay open, obviously I wouldn't do it.

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just a q, what keeps u from doing x when u party sober?

Hrmm let me think - there's a good DJ playing and I want to enjoy the music?

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while u are sober, are u longing to be ON x?

It makes the experience more enjoyable, I'll be perfectly honest. But I'm fully content to do it sober.

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but would it ever change ur mind if somehow u, or a friend was giving a really bad pill?

Absolutely - fortunately it has never happened to me / someone I know. We are all very responsible about what we get, where it comes from, and safe behavior while on it.

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Originally posted by Summer21 Um why are you so defensive?

Im only telling u that it was ur fault. Which is true. U were the 1 choosing to take it too much, it wasnt physically forcing its way into ur stomach, was it?

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If I didntmake sense, let me explain... before I took it had I known E was going to f.uck me up I NEEDLESS to say, never would have done it. Where is the line between so called "abuse" and taking in "moderation"?

If ur taking it too much and its negatively affecting ur life, thats abuse.

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Whos to say? there is a very thin line because everyone is different. I will never condone drugs and I am hoping that someone will read something I wrote and be turned off of E and never take it. Do you go around telling people its ok to take it?

It is ok to take it. Its not ok to abuse the fuck out of it, like u did.

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I never will I don't believe in that

Take some resposibility for ur own actions.

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Posted By U: "Whos doing that? I myself have posted links that explain the damage e does." I have never mentioned your name or anyone elses...so I dunno where ur going with that. I am glad u have posted positive links!

Well, when u replied i think i was the only person pointing out the truth from the bs, so i assumed it was directed at me.

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U again: "U too? For ur info, i havnt taken e in 2 years." GREAT! I am glad u haven't taken it in 2 years. Again I dont know who u are and I didn't take note of your posts or your name, I just read and posted my thoughts.

Well, maybe u should have. Go and read the last 4 or so pages. If u actually listen to what i said i think u might change ur mind about things.

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U one last time: "People who arent prepared to use drugs responsibly should not be using them at all." Now that comment takes the cake! I must say! I am not an 'expert' with drugs, I have never smoked weed before, I have never tried anything other than E, So how the hell can u imply that I wasnt prepared to use drugs responsibly????!!! LOL What an OXYMORON using drugs reposibly.

What the fuck are u talking about? Clearly ur not an expert, as u say. U werent using it responsibly. U admitted it urself by saying u abused it.
U acted stupid and fucked urself up. Now ur blaming the drug when IT WAS UR OWN FAULT.

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Originally posted by UWM Absolutely - fortunately it has never happened to me / someone I know.

What??

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Originally posted by djSlain btw, u made a good point about the guy seizing on the floor. i know u say that u party safe, but would it ever change ur mind if somehow u, or a friend was giving a really bad pill?

Me?
Why would that change my mind? That would not mean that mdma is bad, because i know enough about it to know that it wasnt the mdma. What it would mean is he was given a bad pill because he couldnt buy a pure 1 because it is illegal.
It would make me want legalisation probably more than i do now. If thats possible.

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