Smoking bylaw coming into effect?

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Posted by Rocco on Dec-15-2003 21:31:

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20
It's called "watching the news once in awhile" and "The National with Peter Mansbridge". Try it sometime.

QUOTE THE SOURCE AND SHOW FACTS. get me that fottage where he said so.

Posted by Resnick on Dec-15-2003 21:32:

Posted by Rocco on Dec-15-2003 21:35:

well execuse me guys while i dismiss this thread. I don't think smitty can support his arguments too strongly. Weak arguments deserve to be ignored.

i suggest u go do some reseach, write a 3 000 word essay about why smoking shouldn't be banned from public places. Use APA style manual to quote ur txt and make sure u quote every 2 to 3 sentences. I would love to read that. If i am convinced, i'll start a petition and make sure i get so many autographs. Then i will personally write an essay about it and send all the material to the government and ask them to review it.

Posted by Dj Smitty20 on Dec-15-2003 21:36:

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Originally posted by Skipper
The correlation between fast food and cigs could be made if this were true:

I sit on the bus and eat a big mac, and the person next to me gets a little bit fatter.

Do you see where I'm going with this Smitty?

yeah yeah...that's not the point I'm making. I was responding to the argument that smoking is a "health risk"....anyway, as I said, I'm a considerate smoker...I have maybe 7 a day and 1 or 2 in the club and usually go to the sky bar to do that when I'm at the Guv. I never blow smoke in anyone's face and if they have a problem with me smoking in their house, I go outside, etc. etc. But it pisses me off that people throw so much guilt on smokers, when there are so many other causes of cancer and unhealthy lifestyles.

Posted by Rocco on Dec-15-2003 21:37:

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20
yeah yeah...that's not the point I'm making. I was responding to the argument that smoking is a "health risk"....anyway, as I said, I'm a considerate smoker...I have maybe 7 a day and 1 or 2 in the club and usually go to the sky bar to do that when I'm at the Guv. I never blow smoke in anyone's face and if they have a problem with me smoking in their house, I go outside, etc. etc. But it pisses me off that people throw so much guilt on smokers, when there are so many other causes of cancer and unhealthy lifestyles.

* pulls a Halo20 almost posts post *

Posted by Dj Smitty20 on Dec-15-2003 21:38:

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Originally posted by Resnick
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA thats by far the funniest post in this whole tread

mr. mansbridge just called me up actually, he said ur an idiot

I'm an idiot because I read the papers, watch the news and remember reports like this? Sorry if I don't spend 3 hours of my day trying to find the news link, but I have seen many reports on The National, as well as other programs, that have documented the slow decline of smoking (50 years ago, almost 75% of people smoked), and the rise in obesity.

Posted by hardcore trancer on Dec-15-2003 21:39:

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Originally posted by alec
I live in Ottawa, and the bilaw here makes a huge difference. You can breath properly in a club, you don't smell like absolute shit after a night out, and your eyes don't sting! You guys will appreciate it. If people wanna polute the air, they can do it outside, not in your face!

I know how you feel,I've been to some bars and clubs there,and I loved it,it felt sooooo good,and for the first time in years I had no problem breathing normally inside a club,I cant wait till we get this law going here too!!

Posted by Skipper on Dec-15-2003 21:39:

Posted by Rocco on Dec-15-2003 21:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Smitty20
I'm an idiot because I read the papers, watch the news and remember reports like this? Sorry if I don't spend 3 hours of my day trying to find the news link, but I have seen many reports on The National, as well as other programs, that have documented the slow decline of smoking (50 years ago, almost 75% of people smoked), and the rise in obesity.

quote:
Originally posted by Rocco
well execuse me guys while i dismiss this thread. I don't think smitty can support his arguments too strongly. Weak arguments deserve to be ignored.

i suggest u go do some reseach, write a 3 000 word essay about why smoking shouldn't be banned from public places. Use APA style manual to quote ur txt and make sure u quote every 2 to 3 sentences. I would love to read that. If i am convinced, i'll start a petition and make sure i get so many autographs. Then i will personally write an essay about it and send all the material to the government and ask them to review it.

Posted by alec on Dec-15-2003 21:41:

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20
you drive a car right?

Sometimes, what does that have to do with anything? and I don't shove my exhaust pipe in a club and expel fumes, it disipates into the atmosphere where it becomes insignicficantly untoxic to humans!

Posted by Dj Smitty20 on Dec-15-2003 21:42:

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Originally posted by Skipper
Enjoy your shortened life, Smits. It's probably better that way anyways.

I'm done trying to reason with idiocy.

shortened life eh? All four of my grandparents are well into their eighties, as were their parents when they died. And...yep, here it comes...HALF OF THEM SMOKED! That's right...many people smoke all their life and never die from it.

I'll probably smoke all my life and live to 85, while you'll die at 55 from a brain tumour from all those chemical drugs you take.

Posted by Dj Smitty20 on Dec-15-2003 21:43:

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Originally posted by alec
Sometimes, what does that have to do with anything? and I don't shove my exhaust pipe in a club and expel fumes, it disipates into the atmosphere where it becomes insignicficantly untoxic to humans!

umm...you have heard of little thing called Global Warming, smog...CO2 emissions...

auto exhaust dissipates and becomes untoxic to humans? Now that is funny.

Posted by Resnick on Dec-15-2003 21:44:

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20
shortened life eh? All four of my grandparents are well into their eighties, as were their parents when they died. And...yep, here it comes...HALF OF THEM SMOKED! That's right...many people smoke all their life and never die from it.

I'll probably smoke all my life and live to 85, while you'll die at 55 from a brain tumour from all those chemical drugs you take.

MANY people can play russian roulet everyday of their lives and live to be 80, the point is that it reduces ur chances of living longer

Posted by Dj Smitty20 on Dec-15-2003 21:45:

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Originally posted by Resnick
MANY people can play russian roulet everyday of their lives and live to be 80, the point is that it reduces ur chances of living longer

mm hmm...so sue me if I decide to take those chances for a bit of every day enjoyment.

Posted by alec on Dec-15-2003 21:47:

I drive once in a blue moon, and I"m not saying I agree with all the exhaus emissions either, but you're just changing the subject, this topic has little to do with environmental pollution, rather human, annoyance with arsenic being blown into my face!

Posted by StereoPrincess on Dec-15-2003 22:30:

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20
take a university level Geography course dealing with the economy/environment. Much time is devoted to that issue.

i guess all my courses in health sciences were wrong then. show me a source.

Posted by djeso on Dec-15-2003 23:17:

Smitty,

On a serious note, you showed nothing but disrespect to anyone that does not agree with you. Calling people who don't want their lungs damaged whiners? How old are you? In life people disagree all the time, but you just jump into things, disagreeing and calling people names, I ignored your nonsense for a while. How do you get along with anyone? Common these are just people's opinions, you can smoke all you want, no one is gonna stop you ... just not around people who don't want to be hurt, and that makes you a selfish person. I hope you grow up/change and get along more with everyone.

Peace

P.S. I hate to see you insult people that are very intelligent, smart, and extremely nice that I know in person.

Posted by Dj Smitty20 on Dec-16-2003 01:02:

^^^^ I'm sorry, but a lot of the people who posted in this thread are whiners...bitching about coming home stinking and bla bla bla...it tries my patience to read and hear this type of complaining. The non-smokers are getting their way in the end anyway...but I'm defending a habit that I have...a bad habit yes, but everyone on here has bad habits. Too much blame is put upon smokers for some of the ills of this world, when there are other things that deserve attention.

I seem to recall a post about drugs and when I said that I don't do them because I dont "want to get hurt", people jumped on me and said I knew nothing, I was an idiot, bla bla bla. It kills me that Skipper condemns smoking, but defends drug usage.

But whatever...trying to argue with you people is like talking to a bunch of canaries...

Posted by jdjd on Dec-16-2003 01:23:

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20
^^^^ I'm sorry, but a lot of the people who posted in this thread are whiners...bitching about coming home stinking and bla bla bla...it tries my patience to read and hear this type of complaining. The non-smokers are getting their way in the end anyway...but I'm defending a habit that I have...a bad habit yes, but everyone on here has bad habits. Too much blame is put upon smokers for some of the ills of this world, when there are other things that deserve attention.

I seem to recall a post about drugs and when I said that I don't do them because I dont "want to get hurt", people jumped on me and said I knew nothing, I was an idiot, bla bla bla. It kills me that Skipper condemns smoking, but defends drug usage.

But whatever...trying to argue with you people is like talking to a bunch of canaries...

Everyone has bad habits, but most don't involve inflicting damage on other people's bodies.
And last time I checked, doing drugs not involved with smoking don't have side effects on other people , but Smitty might even try to argue that one.

Posted by Skipper on Dec-16-2003 01:27:

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20
It kills me that Skipper condemns smoking, but defends drug usage.

HOLY SHIT, ARE YOU REALLY THIS STUPID?

I don't care that people smoke...I don't care that people do drugs...it's all personal choice.

However, when your decisions to use substances start affecting me, I speak up. YOUR choice shouldn't affect MY HEALTH every time I want to go clubbing, or go out to eat, or go for a drink in a pub.

The girl who shoots up in the stall next to me at Guvernment doesn't affect my health. But her cigarette does. Why shouldn't I care about that?? Multiply that by hundreds of people in poorly ventilated areas for extended lengths of time on a frequent basis and you've got quite a situation.

How the fuck do you not see a difference?

(Smoking will kill you WAY before hard drugs will, btw. Peter Mansbridge told me so.)

Posted by alec on Dec-16-2003 01:44:

Then again if it wasn't for smoking, there wouldn't be gold club events or red light parties and places like ottawa wouldn't get the big djs at all, its ironic that the girls sit there and sell smokes but no one can smoke in the clubs here!

Posted by Dj Smitty20 on Dec-16-2003 01:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
HOLY SHIT, ARE YOU REALLY THIS STUPID?

I don't care that people smoke...I don't care that people do drugs...it's all personal choice.

However, when your decisions to use substances start affecting me, I speak up. YOUR choice shouldn't affect MY HEALTH every time I want to go clubbing, or go out to eat, or go for a drink in a pub.

The girl who shoots up in the stall next to me at Guvernment doesn't affect my health. But her cigarette does. Why shouldn't I care about that?? Multiply that by hundreds of people in poorly ventilated areas for extended lengths of time on a frequent basis and you've got quite a situation.

How the fuck do you not see a difference?

(Smoking will kill you WAY before hard drugs will, btw. Peter Mansbridge told me so.)

and my suggestion (or did you not read the whole thread?) was that outside patios or properly vhentilated/sealed off rooms should be established so that bitchy people like you can avoid the nasty nasty nasssty smoke. London is doing it quite well right now actually...Toronto should look to it for a good example when the law comes into effect.

But of course...there are many people out there who want smoking banned from clubs outright...a compromise should be made to satisfy both parties...I've been saying this all along.

But until it becomes law in Toronto, I'll be smoking away in the clubs, so watch out, or you might catch a whiff and die of cancer!

Posted by Tordan on Dec-16-2003 01:55:

I smoke quite a bit at clubs but I welcome this bylaw. If I can't make myself quit maybe the law can. It's so hard to resist the temptation to light up a smoke when you see your friends puffing away on their cigarettes. Now if it were banned by law and no-one was smoking it would be hard the first couple of time but I'll definitely get used to not smoking inside a club and so will all the other smokers. I see this as a very good thing.

Posted by StereoPrincess on Dec-16-2003 01:58:

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20
and my suggestion (or did you not read the whole thread?) was that outside patios or properly vhentilated/sealed off rooms should be established so that bitchy people like you can avoid the nasty nasty nasssty smoke. London is doing it quite well right now actually...Toronto should look to it for a good example when the law comes into effect.

So if you agree with the bylaw and have suggestions why are you posting like an asshole pretending to disagree with everyone else? Exams over in the exciting world of historic exploration?

Posted by Skipper on Dec-16-2003 02:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Smitty20
and my suggestion (or did you not read the whole thread?) was that outside patios or properly vhentilated/sealed off rooms should be established so that bitchy people like you can avoid the nasty nasty nasssty smoke.

I said in my first post that I hadn't read the whole thread. Who isn't doing their reading now, eh?

I never disagreed with the idea of patios, did I? All I've been doing is responding to your idiotic posts since about page 4.

It's hard to believe that you actually suggested that, though, given your arguments thus far. I believe your suggestion was actually, "fucking go somewhere else." But maybe I'm wrong...

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