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Behold, we have created a thread that goes on in endless circles.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Behold, we have created a thread that goes on in endless circles.

We should have just ended it when Eleni said 'whoa lol'.

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Originally posted by Digital Aura Just so we're on the same page...my whole point is that unless you follow what Christ says and live as HE lived...you aint a CHRISTIAN...these "contacts" were not living as Christ nor were they in any way representative of real Christianity! This is what gives my faith a bad rep... people who act "in the name of" something they don't actually know or understand...people who say they are Christian but don't know ONE verse from the bible or even have a relationship with Christ.

They was doing this in the name of the christians and for jesus..

If you payed at least a little attention at school you would know that the christians are one of the worst criminals in history and without religion many people wouldn�t have been killed.

Anyway to each his own..

yet again the god lot have ruin something thats cool by putting christian in front of it
get over yourselves for fucks sake

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Originally posted by Az yet again the god lot have ruin something thats cool by putting christian in front of it get over yourselves for fucks sake

I was wondering when you'd turn up.

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Originally posted by Stassi What concept I believe in? That Dance music was made for DANCING and not prayer?? I don't think thats too bold a statement.

Prayer can be one in the same with dancing IMO.

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Hey I don't do Drugs, but a shitload of people in the EDM scene sure do. And the way the scene has been going, this music is not being used to praise god, its being used to praise RECORD SALES! How many Producers Cry about monetary issues?

Like i said, what i use music for may be different for what others use it for. either way its serves some type of purpose. thats the point im trying to convey.

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Either way, my view for music isn't narrow, I was trained when I was young for classical, I produced a bit in my younger years, play guitar drums piano AND DJ, I listen to just about anything that sounds good with real soul (ie. not made just to sell records).

you misunderstood me. i think your views are narrow because you think that music (particularly EDM) only has one purpose. I say it can have many purposes. ill leave it at that.

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Maybe you got offended cause your too thick to realize the sarcasm I add to my posts?

you were being sarcastic? OK then. we are both guilty of misunderstanding.

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Either way, Christian music is not my cup of tea, so i'll leave you to creed or whatever it is you listen to.

why do you think i listen to creed? we are on a trance music messageboard, you know if you have nothing more to say, i dont either.

Im not trying to start no fights bro but all i was saying is labeling music that isn't christian, as christian music, aint right
either way i love your avatar

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Behold, we have created a thread that goes on in endless circles.

Rofl.

I personally make music to rock dancefloors. I love people on drugs, because they generally get rocked harder than sober people =P

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Originally posted by T_2199 They was doing this in the name of the christians and for jesus.. If you payed at least a little attention at school you would know that the christians are one of the worst criminals in history and without religion many people wouldn�t have been killed. Anyway to each his own..

... That post wasn't necessary.. At all. Athiests do just as much damage buddy..

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Originally posted by Vert Athiests do just as much damage buddy..

Actually, I'm going to dispute that claim. Back that up. The crusades, the Inquisitions, Hitler's insistence that he was 'doing it for god', George Bush slaughtering innocent people in the middle east: 'God told me to invade Iraq'. Yes, atheists have done damage (Stalin comes to mind), but did they do that damage in the name of atheism? No.

Unfortunately, shitloads of people kill 'for god', or in the name of god, Allah etc. Compare the amount of atheists that have killed 'in the name of atheism' and then contrast that with the amount of theists that have killed in the name of theism. Starting to get the picture?

If you all know this discussion won't change each other's opinion on this delicated issue, I ask you:

Is there really any need for this thread to keep its existence on Earth?

If you're a Christian, shouldn't you be enjoying the life God gave you doing something better than arguing on the internet?

If you're an atheist, do you really think you can change someone's point of view on religion by posting in a thread where they already read in a deffensive stance?

Argh!

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Originally posted by Lira If you all know this discussion won't change each other's opinion on this delicated issue, I ask you: Is there really any need for this thread to keep its existence on Earth? If you're a Christian, shouldn't you be enjoying the life God gave you doing something better than arguing on the internet? If you're an atheist, do you really think you can change someone's point of view on religion by posting in a thread where they already read in a deffensive stance? Argh!

Using that logic, we may as well not make any topics in which there is a chance that there will be differing opinions expressed. I see no reason why we shouldn't discuss this, it's one of the most important questions one can ask, after all.

I do think that it's in the wrong forum though.

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Originally posted by arctic Using that logic, we may as well not make any topics in which there is a chance that there will be differing opinions expressed. I see no reason why we shouldn't discuss this, it's one of the most important questions one can ask, after all.

But this is neither the right forum nor the right thread. If it's a thread about religion, then fair enough. But in a religious thread, the chances of finding someone open to non-religious thoughts is smaller, I reckon.

But yes, I agree with you on the fact that this thread should either be moved or closed by now

why am i missing out on 8 pages of fun? FLAME WARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Re: Re: references...if you care..

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Originally posted by arctic On a final note, here's another picture of Jesus for everyone's enjoyment!

LMAO That pic is freakin hilarious.

Jesus is not god..jesus is dead ..Jesus was a nobody..
All he has was a good book writer.So stop it already

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Originally posted by SkyHigh Jesus is not god..jesus is dead ..Jesus was a nobody.. All he has was a good book writer.So stop it already

Sorry to break it to you, but Jesus didn't write the bible. And even if he did, that would hardly make him a 'good book writer'.

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Originally posted by arctic Sorry to break it to you, but Jesus didn't write the bible. And even if he did, that would hardly make him a 'good book writer'.

i meant all he had was a good book writer

when you tools have the facts, comeback and talk to me.

jesus never wrote the bible...lol

the bible was written by around 60 different authors (66 books) over a period of about 1200 to approx 1800 yrs.

jesus did live btw, it was confirmed by a few atheist writers in the first century AD (don't believe me...look it up!)

his death or and resurrection will be argued till the end of time.

religion or beliefs is all about faith, depends how much faith you have in that belief.

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Originally posted by SkyHigh Jesus is not god..jesus is dead ..Jesus was a nobody.. All he has was a good book writer.So stop it already

wow
thats quite possibly one of the dumbest comments i have ever heard.

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Originally posted by torontotrance jesus did live btw, it was confirmed by a few atheist writers in the first century AD (don't believe me...look it up!)

I'd be interested in talking about that, from what i understand there is little or no impartial (i.e. - non church) evidence that he did exist, and that the only real passage that talks about him is generally considered to be a forgery.

But yeah, anyone who comes out and says Jesus wrote the bible, or that he had 'good book writers' is clearly out of their depth.

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Originally posted by arctic I'd be interested in talking about that, from what i understand there is little or no impartial (i.e. - non church) evidence that he did exist, and that the only real passage that talks about him is generally considered to be a forgery. But yeah, anyone who comes out and says Jesus wrote the bible, or that he had 'good book writers' is clearly out of their depth.

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look up the writings of the Jewish historian Josephus, i guy writing at the time of Jesus, both acknoledges his existance and some of the things he was supposed to have done (although being opposed to Jesus doesn't report it with a huge amount of zeal)

I do have faith, though I verge on being an Agnostic (belief in a higher power but not necessarily according to the rigid guidelines of any specific religion, due to the tendency for human beings to embellish and misconstrue). I don't see what faith has to do with the music though. I remember a long time ago that somebody released a VST synth for music producers, but in the readme he stated "please don't use this instrument to create music that goes against God such as electronica or metal." Ignorance.

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Originally posted by State of Matter I remember a long time ago that somebody released a VST synth for music producers, but in the readme he stated "please don't use this instrument to create music that goes against God such as electronica or metal."

Do you remember its name, by chance? Or what sort of vst it was?

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Originally posted by State of Matter I remember a long time ago that somebody released a VST synth for music producers, but in the readme he stated "please don't use this instrument to create music that goes against God such as electronica or metal." Ignorance.

hahahahaha

i remember that one

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