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-- Review: Ferry Corsten @ Guvernment - March 13 2004
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Originally posted by DarkWater You have to be mean, or a bitch, to get any sort of response to a mainly fucked and drunk off their ass crowd. You think if a bouncer was all polite and said things like "Well sir, I don't believe you should go up those stairs tonight", anyone would listen to him?

I guess you haven't been to Boa (os System for that matter). Because those bouncers and staff are the most polite people to ever work at a club. They even say excuse me when walking though a crowd.

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Originally posted by Skipper Aaron, if you think this review thread is painful, don't open the Montreal review of Ferry at Aria.

That some crazy reading. Those guys don't let anyone have an opinion. Its either "Aria is number 1" or you better keep your mouth shut.

that's right! cos it is. so stfu! hihihi!!!

ARIA #1!

complain, complain, complain ... yea so i almost died too of suffocation, disgusting sweat dripping ginos, being trampled on, and elbowed in the head & ribs and what not ... but i found a way to still have a good time on fri the 13th for tiesto at aria over a year ago. same goes for deep dish when aria was rammed to the roof!
U MAKE THE PARTY FOR YOURSELF! be grateful for what u've got! we're way too sploiled!

i had a great time. for me it was a first that i started dancing the second i got in (10.15). couldn't help it. music was infectious.

loved ferrys set. so many tracks i loved. some i didn't know. most i don't remember from 5 on i was expecting him to be getting off. hes always stayed on late, but an extra 3.5 hrs? so impressed by his "professionalism" (lol). packed to shit, but i was expecting worse. just threw my elbows up a bit and made my space (sorry to the ppl i hit). lotsa rude ppl, but even more awesome ones, esp the TAs. funny how ever cool person i meet turns out to be on here.

starshine(jenn)and TDL (terry) thanks so much for the corsten jersey. best present ever. u guys rock. NC2wks

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Originally posted by StereoPrincess That some crazy reading. Those guys don't let anyone have an opinion. Its either "Aria is number 1" or you better keep your mouth shut.

You are referring to one or two people in there... don't put us all in the same basket.

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Originally posted by ahlamalek You are referring to one or two people in there... don't put us all in the same basket.

nope about 6 people if not more jumped on one guy not having a good time.

I loved Ferry, but I cannot stand how RAMMED it was in there.. how the hell are you supposed to rip it up without throwin' some "bos" around and totally tickin' ppl off? But, the night is what you make of it and it was totally SIIICK!.. I was a mover and a shaker for sure.. my feet did NOT stop moving except for the ocasional drink of water and to adjust my hat :P I give props to all the fellow dancers who maintained their energy the whole night through.. it was rough in there for a while with no space.. GUV seriously has to do something about that...

I met a TON of TA's!! sorry for not remembering names but you all know how it goes.. and of course my b/f KevinEarth *kisses* heehee, his bro WalterMindz and his g/f as well.. you guys RAWK!

see y'all next time...

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Originally posted by StereoPrincess nope about 6 people if not more jumped on one guy not having a good time.

i am sorry, but he got jumped on because he said that electro/techno is crap... totaly wrong place to do it considering that most MTL TAs are techno lovers, its asking for trouble.

and this has nothing to do with aria itself.

I thought he got jumped on because he didn't like how ferry ended before his "scheduled" end time...

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Originally posted by Skipper I thought he got jumped on because he didn't like how ferry ended before his "scheduled" end time...

i don't feel like rereading the whole thing again... but just look at the first page and how it starts... it sets the mood, trust me.

by USMC_Greg

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I heard it sucked ass with alot of Electro shit. I hope no Aria people asked him to play hard again. Montreal doesn't like it hard. I wish that club would let the DJs play the style they are known for. I don't understand why a club would book an epic trance DJ and get them to play hard (or prog, or techno, electro, or other crap). They can hear that shit anyday of the year

by ASSasin

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He played a lot of shitty electro with ghey stephen hawkings vocals.

But, by far, that's not what the discussion evolves into after page 1 or 2.

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Originally posted by Skipper But, by far, that's not what the discussion evolves into after page 1 or 2.

I agree but it doesn't matter anymore at that point...

Does anyone have any pictures of Sat???

nat took loads i think shes gonna post them later

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Originally posted by disko-kandi U MAKE THE PARTY FOR YOURSELF! be grateful for what u've got! we're way too sploiled!

And that right there is the attitude, down to a tee, which I simply can't identify with at all. I'm not meaning to pick on you in particular, Silke, and I'm sorry if it sounds like that - the fact is, that first sentence has long been a buzz phrase on TA and it took me a while to figure out exactly what it means to me.

I'm sure you mean that in the best possible way, but in the end, the implication behind them is "XYZ club is infallible, therefore if you didn't have a good time then the problem must have been *you*." Well, the people who think that are entitled to their opinions, and I'm glad they had a good time. But when it comes time to decide who I want to hang out with, it's not likely to be the eternally wide-eyed keener ("Ohmygosh, the club is so awesome and it's FERRY!!! We have to stay and dance all night no matter how crowded and smokey and ridiculously loud it is!") any moreso than it is the relentless pessimist ("OMG WTF, DID YOU HEAR THAT? THE RECORD SKIPPED FOR A NANOSECOND!"). It's going to be someone in between, who has fun on a good night but isn't afraid to admit when they're just having a shit time, and most of all, isn't afraid to call it quits when it's just not worth staying 'til the end. Worst thing is when I'm somewhere with a friend and he insists on staying 'til the bitter end and just won't leave. Sometimes, I just wanna go home, and I'd rather not have to deal with the "what the hell is wrong with you?" attitude.

Why are we spoiled? What is sooooooooo special about the fancy lasers and the high-priced DJs? Sure, it amazed me the first few times when I was a virgin to the scene, but I'm long past that stage. Honestly, I think we have every right to "take the Guv for granted" because the club totally, totally takes its patrons and its crowd for granted. Of course every club is in business for the money, but a lot of the time I think I'd actually rather spend my time with a few good friends at a small club that KNOWS it HAS to please its patrons in order to turn a profit.

True, I love to party with the TA crew, but no matter how many TAs are present it's just not a good night for me unless I've got room to breathe (and relatively clean air for the same purpose). Why force myself to have a good time? The crowd is the whole point of going out to a club, otherwise I might as well just stay home and listen to the same tunes. TOTAs are great but when I'm blind from the smoke and deaf from the music and suffocating from the sweaty bodies, the TOTA presence doesn't help too much.

But, like I said, that's just my opinion, and you're all entitled to yours. Although I think there are quite a few people on here who know what I'm talking about but just don't want to speak up, because they'll be labelled vibe-killers and party-poopers. But just so you know, you aren't alone.

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Originally posted by DigiNut I think we have every right to "take the Guv for granted" because the club totally, totally takes its patrons and its crowd for granted.

I'll speak up to this!
Frick'n Guv...

well i don't take the guv or the scene in toronto for granted...

i feel very lucky to have the clubs we do in this city...

i will always manage to have a good time regardless of how rammed it is...

but there's rammed and there's dangerous...and saturday night was dangerous...more than once i saw people getting shoved to the floor and stepped over or even on....does that sound like an acceptable clubbing experience to you???? some in here seem to think it is...

our buddy greedy charles can cut back on the amount of people he lets in and still draw the big name dj's and still make a pretty profit...

I agree w Craig, there's crowded and then there's dangerous. For thos that say "don't go" ok fine it's true. But when it's just fucking ridiculous you act as though we're 5 crying about it. It's not, the people complaining have a valid point. I don't mind crowded...I've been to Guv for almost every special event for the past 3 years, I'd say about 3 or 4 of those parties they were REALLY rammed to the point where it's dangerous. Still, I'd rather pay more and have more room to dance than pay $15 and be not able to enjoy myself as much as I would have. I mean it defeats the purpose, a dance club you're there to DANCE. Not stand around and "enjoy" the music, I can do that at home. As for why doesn't Charles just up the $ of admission when he can possibly make the same amount of $ beats me. I'd say it was for liquor sales...more people = more people that drink ie more $$ obviously...but he could offset that by charging more per ticket. Meh...

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Originally posted by Endlesswave I'd say it was for liquor sales...more people = more people that drink ie more $$ obviously...but he could offset that by charging more per ticket.

that sounds about right.

I had a great time! I spent the first 4 hours with Digweed and the last 4 with Ferry. I missed it when it was crazy-packed at Guv, so it worked out great. Both were fantastic. I'm Fran's buddy from Detroit, by the way, for those of you who have met me. I don't post much in TOTA. In fact, I think I hang out in T.O. more than I post in this forum. Anyway, I just want to express my sincere gratitude to Irish Graham, Tatgirl, and Dallasstar for letting me stay with them this weekend. Also, it was great to hang out with Ray, Cuzo, Stereoprincess, Rich, and Pete. (Sorry, I don't know all you're screen-names.) It was nice meeting jpgrdn, thabroad, Dr. goodvibe, and Desidel throughout the night. Oh yeah, thank you Robin and Melissa for having us over before the show.

I love coming to Toronto because you have such a good scene up here and everyone I've met has been really friendly. I don't want to say you guys are spoiled (and I agree overcrowding sucks), but I don't drive from Detroit once a month for nothing!

Anyway, thanks all! Next time, it's CLUB URANUS !!

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Originally posted by torontobarfly our buddy greedy charles can cut back on the amount of people he lets in and still draw the big name dj's and still make a pretty profit...

i would gladly pay 30 bucks to get into guv main room if they sold tickets and didn't let anyone in at the door - and had a cap on the crowd.

then you'd get people comign to see the DJ, not goign for a night out at the guvernment.


sure there was tons of people to see ferry - just look at our little cross section of society. but there was all the people that were saturday night regulars at guv.

i know around 15 people from hamilton area that come to guv every saturday - it's just their thing.



i wish more people were about the music and not about the money

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Originally posted by torontobarfly our buddy greedy charles can cut back on the amount of people he lets in and still draw the big name dj's and still make a pretty profit...

What guv has is a crowd displacement problem. Lets say guv fills it to legal capacity and everyone in all the other rooms decide to party in the guv. Then you have a crowd problem. In this thread alone people have said they paid for the kool haus event just to bypass the longer line (and then buy a bracelet).

Not to say that charles is not responsible for it, but i think he is demonized to often in this forum.

Over the years people complain about the same shit every party. If theres a pary in the guv and a well liked dj expect a large crowd. If you dont like it dont go.

What makes me laugh is, if charles were to raise the prices for special events to decrease the number of patrons, this forum would be calling him a greedy bastard even more.

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Originally posted by TrueToTheCrew What makes me laugh is, if charles were to raise the prices for special events to decrease the number of patrons, this forum would be calling him a greedy bastard even more.

well i'm pretty sure the majority of the people in the guv saturday night would have gladly payed an extra $5 or $10 to avoid what went on...imo

and you're right, crowd displacement is the problem since you have people filling the guv from several different rooms however with bouncers at each door wearing headsets it could be quite easy to control the number of people entering and leaving the guv main room...other bars do it, the guv for some reason doesn't...

diginut ~ first off, thanks for not flaming me!! hehe! i had put on my flamesuit already!

but yes, i do agree with the safety factor! ur definitely right on that. it was also a heated point of discussion after the Tiesto @ ARIA Dec. 2003 event - hence, ARIA has vowed to never overpack the club again and has actually stuck to its promise ever since!

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Originally posted by DigiNut And that right there is the attitude, down to a tee, which I simply can't identify with at all.

Dood. You weren't even there...

If you want to spurt philosophical goo � why not start an extra thread??? I�ll even do it for you if you want.

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