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Posted by Floorfiller on May-12-2004 18:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Tranc3
Crap I can't find it right now...I'll try to do it from memory as best I can. Only thing is, I don't remember his starting number, but I remember his finishing number...I think

100,000,000,000 galaxies in the universe. Let's say 1% of the galaxies have solar systems.

1,000,000,000 solar systems. Let's say 1% of these have planets capable of supporting life.

10,000,000 Planets capable of supporting life. Let's say 1% of these planets actually DO support life.

100,000 Planets with life. Let's say 1% of these planets are actually useful to our UFO purposes and support intelligent life.

1,000 Planets with intelligent life on them.

According to this model, we are left with 1000 planets in the universe that have intelligent life on them. Of course, what's to say it's 1% all the way down the chain?

That was the gist of his argument. I might not have gotten it perfectly because I did it from memory - all I remembered were the last 2 steps, the 1% thing, and the final number...so I just worked backwards.

ah yes...that's what it was...my numbers were waaaaaaay off hehehe...and i'm pretty sure that 1,000 was his finishing number too...

Posted by Radagast on May-12-2004 18:33:

The numbers were way off compared to what? Sagans guesswork?

Posted by Tranc3 on May-12-2004 18:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Radagast
The numbers were way off compared to what? Sagans guesswork?

He stated that he had seen it in Astronomy class, and was wondering if someone else could properly explain it.

I wouldn't call it guesswork, I'd call it educated guesswork. As was Floorfiller's original post.

Posted by Floorfiller on May-12-2004 18:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Radagast
The numbers were way off compared to what? Sagans guesswork?

well obviously someone like Carl Sagan or Stephen Hawking knows a little bit more about the universe than i do...i remember seeing the thing that Tran3 posted, but forgot how it worked...

Posted by Boomer187 on May-12-2004 19:02:

yeah there is a huge huge fundamental flaw in sagans reasoning, that is, it is all guess work based on intuitive appeal.

whose to say it is 1%. do we know all the galaxies in the universe? and how can we say 1% have life.

I wouldn't put too much weight on Sagan's opinion.

Posted by Floorfiller on May-12-2004 19:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Boomer187
yeah there is a huge huge fundamental flaw in sagans reasoning, that is, it is all guess work based on intuitive appeal.

whose to say it is 1%. do we know all the galaxies in the universe? and how can we say 1% have life.

I wouldn't put too much weight on Sagan's opinion.

the model isn't to show that there are 1,000 other planets of life, but instead to suggest a line of reasoning that brings us to a conclusion that it is possible...the numbers aren't important...its the concept...

Posted by TweeK on May-12-2004 20:30:

Ok why the fuck do you people asume it was Amrican technology....WHy cant it be Mexican.You people underestimate the maxicans.

Let me remind u at one time Aztec and Mayan technology was far more advance than....any thing in the world.Ok Ancient Egyptian's was some what the same.

And dont even go there with Aztec and Mayan Astrology (is that a word)
They were ahead of every ancient Civilization when it came to astrology.

Posted by ShadoWolf on May-12-2004 20:46:

Mexico had an airforce before the US did.

1915

Posted by Tranc3 on May-12-2004 20:47:

Posted by PETRAN on May-12-2004 21:48:

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Let me remind u at one time Aztec and Mayan technology was far more advance than....any thing in the world.Ok Ancient Egyptian's was some what the same.

Ermmmm, you surely need history lessons as mayas, (more ancient than aztecs and no relation to them)may have shettled in mesoamerica
at 1000b.c BUT have not developed a civilisation since 200a.d. Their classical period dated from 200-700 a.d. By that time (200a.d)in europe a few things were happening like... ermmmmm, roman empire (have u ever heard of it) had allready collapsed, giving rise to the byzantines (also called easter romean empire, or, romean empire now leaded by greeks ) And u know.... Romans and byzantines were a LIIIITTTLEEE BIIITT more developed than mayas Aztecs have not developed a civilisation since 1300 a.d!!!!The peak was reached by the time the spanish arrived and u must know the rest of the history...(Spanish by that time again were a little biiiiittt more developed than them)
Oh mind you, egypt have ruined from 3000b.c(!!!!!, evidence suggest they were there from 6000bc!!!!) with the first pyramid build on 2800-2700b.c by Imhotep!!!!! who was a great architect, emperor and physicist. So, egyptians again were A LITTTTLLLEEEE BBBIITTT older than mayas.....

quote:
Let me remind u at one time Aztec and Mayan technology was far more advance than....any thing in the world.Ok Ancient Egyptian's was some what the same

Posted by Floorfiller on May-12-2004 21:53:

quote:
Originally posted by PETRAN
Ermmmm, you surely need history lessons as mayas, (more ancient than aztecs and no relation to them)may have shettled in mesoamerica
at 1000b.c BUT have not developed a civilisation since 200a.d. Their classical period dated from 200-700 a.d. By that time (200a.d)in europe a few things were happening like... ermmmmm, roman empire (have u ever heard of it) had allready collapsed, giving rise to the byzantines (also called easter romean empire, or, romean empire now leaded by greeks ) And u know.... Romans and byzantines were a LIIIITTTLEEE BIIITT more developed than mayas Aztecs have not developed a civilisation since 1300 a.d!!!!The peak was reached by the time the spanish arrived and u must know the rest of the history...(Spanish by that time again were a little biiiiittt more developed than them)
Oh mind you, egypt have ruined from 3000b.c(!!!!!, evidence suggest they were there from 6000bc!!!!) with the first pyramid build on 2800-2700b.c by Imhotep!!!!! who was a great architect, emperor and physicist. So, egyptians again were A LITTTTLLLEEEE BBBIITTT older than mayas.....

its sounds like you took a little too much history and not enough english...i think both of you are idiots and have vague notions of what history was...so please...go read a book..

Posted by PETRAN on May-12-2004 21:57:

perhaps you should teach us floorfiller...

Posted by TweeK on May-12-2004 21:58:

^ yeah something like that.....

Posted by Floorfiller on May-12-2004 21:59:

quote:
Originally posted by PETRAN
perhaps you should teach us floorfiller...

well seriously...if you are gonna give the guy shit...don't sit there and type out a message that is just as bad...maybe i will when i get home tonight...

Posted by PETRAN on May-12-2004 22:09:

Well i dont think it is AS bad... well...maybe english level is a bit, but that was due to the fact it was written instantaniously...at least is historically valued IMO.

Posted by Floorfiller on May-12-2004 22:16:

quote:
Originally posted by PETRAN
Well i dont think it is AS bad... well...maybe english level is a bit, but that was due to the fact it was written instantaniously...at least is historically valued IMO.

true...it wasn't AS bad...you are a older and obviously smarter...

Posted by 3xx3r7 on May-12-2004 22:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Jiffy
Yeah, it'd be so cool... she'd be giving you head... doing it all just right and then...

whoah. WAIT. STOP SUCKING SO HARD. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

That's when you realize that they suck your brains out through your genitalia. They're only here for information. They'll be back to take over the world, later.

Posted by ShadoWolf on May-12-2004 23:11:

I saw the video. The parts where you can see the clouds are amazing.

Posted by meneedit on May-12-2004 23:15:

my theory is that either aliens exist or they are some government crafts being tested out that nobody knows about....

Posted by occrider on May-12-2004 23:23:

quote:
Originally posted by TweeK
Ok why the fuck do you people asume it was Amrican technology....WHy cant it be Mexican.You people underestimate the maxicans.

Let me remind u at one time Aztec and Mayan technology was far more advance than....any thing in the world.Ok Ancient Egyptian's was some what the same.

And dont even go there with Aztec and Mayan Astrology (is that a word)
They were ahead of every ancient Civilization when it came to astrology.

Well if it was mexican technology than why is the mexican military acting all surprised? But even if it was super-secret mexican technology that they didn't want the airforce to know about, why would they fly this secretive technology in an area where the Mexican airforce is patrolling? But let's assume that perhaps the Mexicans are not so good at conducting secretive test operations and these flyboys unexpectedly saw something they shouldn't have seen, why then would the Mexican military release the video to the public. Ok even THEN let's assume that they released it because it's not that secret and it's technology that's no big deal ... why then wouldn't the mexican gov't step forward to say what it is? Any which way you look at it, it doesn't make a lot of sense for it to be Mexican technology ... no offense to mexican technology, I love taco bell.

Just kidding

Posted by Orbax on May-12-2004 23:29:

Taco bell is great if te gusta cagar

Posted by TweeK on May-13-2004 00:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
Taco bell is great if te gusta cagar

LMao

Posted by speedracer_mec on May-13-2004 01:03:

quote:
Originally posted by occrider
Well if it was mexican technology than why is the mexican military acting all surprised? But even if it was super-secret mexican technology that they didn't want the airforce to know about, why would they fly this secretive technology in an area where the Mexican airforce is patrolling? But let's assume that perhaps the Mexicans are not so good at conducting secretive test operations and these flyboys unexpectedly saw something they shouldn't have seen, why then would the Mexican military release the video to the public. Ok even THEN let's assume that they released it because it's not that secret and it's technology that's no big deal ... why then wouldn't the mexican gov't step forward to say what it is? Any which way you look at it, it doesn't make a lot of sense for it to be Mexican technology ... no offense to mexican technology, I love taco bell.

Just kidding

hilarious!

bak to the topic

new diff life is out there......nuff said

Posted by Rodrico on May-13-2004 01:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
Taco bell is great if te gusta cagar

LOL, nothing like giving the toilet the wrath of Taco Smell..

Posted by Evil_Gnome on May-13-2004 01:51:

I dont get why people just assume that if aliens do exist, they are so far advanced from us. They could be, they could not be. You cant just assume that they are more advanced than us. Also, maybe they are just doing the same thing as us in space, research.

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