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He wasnt going to defend his country, he was going to help rebuild iraq. Good soul that was taken in vain..

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Originally posted by DaveSZ It's one thing to talk to Jesus, but when Jesus talks back to you, you know things are fucked up. Actually, W prays to Supply Side Jesus.

Nice link, funny stuff.

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Originally posted by Mr. Pink "Mr. Berg your orders are to go to iraq and defend your country" "no im sorry sir, i can't go to iraq because, you see, I'm jewish" "You're Jewish, Mr. Berg?! Oh well then I guess you're right! You can't go to Iraq!" Yeah good one smart guy Logic 101 classes for you he played with fire and got burnt! LMAO!

You stupid fuck. All they can see at first glance is that he's a white American. Do you honestly think they could pinpoint him as Jewish without him telling them?

Re: Good God I just Saw the Whole Nick Berg Video

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Originally posted by DiMethGuy I just got it off of slsk. I don't know why I d/l'ded it...perhaps some morbid fascination. But I'm truly sorry I watched it. I mean we've all seen gruesome decapitation scenes in hollywood movies, but I don't think anything can prepare you for what you feel when you know what you are witnessing is real. I think it's time the media starts showing us all the gruesome details of what these savages are capable of. This way there'll be no more whining about how we mistreat them and blah blah blah. Now more than ever we need Bush in there, to get these bastards. Fuck rebuilding, take the mothballs out of the Enola Gay and lay waste. GOD BLESS THE USA!

the irony
you are what you hate

How much is known about this Nick Berg guy anyhow? Why did they capture him and kill him for? I wondering if this was some sort of statement made back for the mal-treatment of Iraqi prisoners, or a political statement mades towards the US foreign policy, or maybe, just maybe he did something to piss someone off...*shrugs* Anyone have some good links? wouldn't mind reading about this guy before making too many assumptions. "God" forbid I do some research beforing making those...*stares around at various people*

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The story of Nick Berg a tale that haunts america By Andrew Buncombe in West Whiteland 13 May 2004 Nick Berg liked to play the saxophone. When he was at high school he was a member of the marching band and neighbours would hear him practising in the evenings at his parents' house, the music seeping out through the walls. He was a friendly young man. His friends said he had an independent spirit. The 26-year-old liked science and he liked to travel. When he was at college he went to Ghana and helped build houses out of mud, returning home considerably thinner and with his pockets empty because he gave away most of his money. Now Mr Berg is dead, murdered in the most terrible way in a place thousands of miles from his home and light years away from the life that he led in the Philadelphia suburbs. His family is heartbroken while his friends and neighbours, probably along with every other American, are sickened to the core. "It's a very sombre mood," said one neighbour, Janet Conrad, yesterday. "He was very well liked. It's an unbelievable tragedy." Mr Berg was beheaded in Iraq by extremists apparently closely linked to the senior al-Qa'ida operative Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, who took him hostage and then made a video of his execution which they posted on to an internet website. In a statement they read out before sawing off Mr Berg's head with a knife, the five masked men claimed they were killing the self-employed telecommunications engineer in revenge for the abuse of Iraqi prisoners by US troops at Abu Ghraib prison. It is not certain whether Zarqawi, on whose head there is a $10m (�6m) reward, was among the killers. Mr Berg's body - discovered dumped next to a road in Baghdad last Saturday - was due to be returned to the US last night or later today. But for many Americans, the coffin being flown to Dover Air Force base in Delaware will be bringing home not just the young man's remains but also the visceral horror of the war and the ongoing occupation by US forces. "I was adamantly opposed to the war," admitted another of the Bergs' neighbours, who asked not to be named. "But here it is." One senses that Mr Berg's murder has shocked America in a way perhaps more powerful even than the 700 US soldiers who have been killed in prosecuting President Bush's mission to oust Saddam Hussein. He, after all, was not a soldier but a communications engineer who had travelled to Iraq independently to try to secure contracts to repair radio antennas - another thing he used to practise in the back garden of his parents' home in West Whiteland, Pennsylvania. He had supported the war and wanted to help rebuild Iraq, said his father, Michael, a retired schoolteacher, who was opposed to the invasion. "He's a helping guy," Mr Berg Snr told reporters: "He looked at it as bringing democracy to a country that didn't have it." The brutality of Mr Berg's murder and very public way in which he was killed has stunned America and horrified his family, who collapsed sobbing when they learnt of the video's existence. While newspapers declined to print the most graphic of the images, they were available on websites such as the Drudge Report, where the execution, complete with Mr Berg's screams as the knife was placed to his throat, could be viewed. One could argue that the pictures of Iraqi hospitals full of children maimed and killed by American and British cluster bombs are, in their own way, equally horrific, but that would miss the point. Most Americans - even here in the middle-class suburbs of Philadelphia - never see, or never choose to see, images that portray the horror the war has wreaked on Iraqi civilians. But thanks to the same digital technology that ensured the pictures of the abuse at Abu Ghraib were dispatched around the world, Mr Berg's five killers carried out what was, in effect, a public execution. As a result, the image of Mr Berg, wearing an orange jump suit and bound to a chair shortly before he was beheaded, will probably become as much a fixture of the iconography of Mr Bush's so-called war on terror as the photograph of the Wall Street Journal correspondent Daniel Pearl shortly before he was beheaded by an al-Qa'ida gang in Pakistan in 2002. "I just do not want to see those pictures," said Susan Mattern, 32, who used to catch the school bus with Mr Berg's brother and sister, and who organised a candlelit vigil of prayers and remembrance outside the family home on Tuesday night. She said: "There was nothing we could do. I just rang some people so that we could show our support. I know that if I was in their position I would want some support. I am so upset by what has happened. Yesterday I think I was in shock because it was so close to home but today it has really hit me. "I just think that now we need to get the hell out of there. If they want to kill each other then let them." While the US authorities have vowed to find Mr Berg's killers, his friends and family are also demanding an explanation as to what happened to him in Iraq after he was detained in early March by Iraqi police in the city of Mosul, who apparently questioned the authenticity of some of the documents he was carrying. Mr Berg's father said that his son had told him in a telephone call he had been handed over to the US authorities who held him for 13 days without access to a lawyer and that he was questioned about what he was doing in Iraq. His family filed a lawsuit in the federal court in Philadelphia on 5 April asserting that he was being held by the military in violation of his civil rights. A day later, he was released. He told his parents that the State Department had been unable to get him a flight home and that he was seeking instead to return overland. They last heard from him on 9 April. A US spokesman in Baghdad said yesterday that Mr Berg had never been in American custody but that the US authorities had helped secure his release from the police cell. The spokesman said Mr Berg had been warned that it was unsafe in Iraq and that he should leave. It is not clear where or when Mr Berg was kidnapped or killed but analysis of the videotape suggested there was a gap of several hours between the time the masked men read their statement and when he was actually beheaded. It is impossible to predict the effect Mr Berg's execution will have on US public opinion in the weeks ahead as the Bush administration prepares to return sovereignty to Iraq by 30 June. Those opposed to the war will probably be hardened in their opinion that this was the sort of horror that should have anticipated from the outset. Others may argue that the savagery supports Mr Bush's purported mission to bring democracy to Iraq. One neighbour recommended the solution should be to drop a bomb. But among the birdsong in the quiet neighbourhood where Mr Berg grew up, most people's thoughts were simply of him and his family, of someone they knew and whose death had brought the horror of Iraq to their doorsteps. A few yards from Mr Berg's parents' home, Kathy McCauley was busy with the youngest of her three children. "A lot of the mothers were terribly distraught," she said. "I was just looking at my own children this morning, my daughter getting the bus to school and I was just thinking that he used to do that."

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Originally posted by Galapidate You stupid fuck. All they can see at first glance is that he's a white American. Do you honestly think they could pinpoint him as Jewish without him telling them?

local authorities arrested him and I assume asked for his papers... Berg doesn't sound too italian to me

i just watched it and threw up!! are u kidding me!!

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Originally posted by Galapidate You stupid fuck. All they can see at first glance is that he's a white American. Do you honestly think they could pinpoint him as Jewish without him telling them?

hey dumbass

im not the one saying he was supposed to not go there cuz he was jewish

fuck off

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Berg's father said his son was a practicing Jew and that "there's a better chance than not" that his captors knew it. "If there was any doubt that they were going to kill him, that probably clinched it, I'm guessing," he said.

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about to watch the vid

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Originally posted by malek local authorities arrested him and I assume asked for his papers... Berg doesn't sound too italian to me

They would have killed him either way. What about those contractors and other non-military personnel who were killed in the past? I'm sure not all of them were Jewish.

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Originally posted by Galapidate They would have killed him either way. What about those contractors and other non-military personnel who were killed in the past? I'm sure not all of them were Jewish.

probably not, but being jewish wasn't favorable to him i guess....

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Berg's father said his son was a practicing Jew and that "there's a better chance than not" that his captors knew it. "If there was any doubt that they were going to kill him, that probably clinched it, I'm guessing," he said.

I guess I was right god damnit... fucking drama queens

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Originally posted by Nell about to watch the vid

Do yourself a favor and keep a wastebasket or something close. You might need it.

TranceAki: You really threw up?? Sorry to hear that.

I saw the video and had dinner like half an hour before. I don't know how I DIDN'T throw up.

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Originally posted by albertoR Source

If I wanted to read a sob story, I would read Danielle Steel. *yawn at the article*

Lets take a look at two things. Were these Iraqi's who were part of some Al-queda group? (from what I gather, Iraqi's themselves under Saddams rule didnt have any ties to Al-queda, but I could be wrong)But lets place the blame squarely on those who did it, and not on a general stereotype of the people.

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One could argue that the pictures of Iraqi hospitals full of children maimed and killed by American and British cluster bombs are, in their own way, equally horrific, but that would miss the point. Most Americans - even here in the middle-class suburbs of Philadelphia - never see, or never choose to see, images that portray the horror the war has wreaked on Iraqi civilians. But thanks to the same digital technology that ensured the pictures of the abuse at Abu Ghraib were dispatched around the world, Mr Berg's five killers carried out what was, in effect, a public execution.

How is this a point? Is the author trying to tell me that because I dont choose to see something, its not as real or as disturbing as this video? Whether we see or not see it, both visuals are shockingly disturbing (for mosts) and deeply troubling for any of the right of mind to see the dangers of what this war is causing, and that it was probably not worth going in the first place. This was a short failing by the author, and he lost most of his credit by writing that piece of garbage. (I almost stopped reading after that point) If its publically posted, then its those who watch it and enjoy it that are messed, those who watch it are only going to feed into the message of these al-queda people, which is why I dont really feel the need to watch that.

It is sad to see he came to help rebuild, and this happen to him, cause he was trying to help, but he is no different than the millions of other lives in this world that is killed due to the injustice of any countries policies. The fact is that his death is once again, going to duel the fires of vegeance and racism, instead of solving anything shows that his death will be in vain. I can only thank the American media, who propel the partoitism of Americans by showing that not only are they prone to acts of terrorism and savage brutality, but that they can also add stereotype and hate messages into the minds of those who are weak and un-intelligent.

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Originally posted by TrAnCeAkI i just watched it and threw up!! are u kidding me!!

You really threw up?

My imagination is enough for me without having to watch the video.

Plus I saw the LA Times photos of the guy holding the knife to his neck.

how the fuck is this sick?

meybe the years of browsing through ogrish/rotten/consumptionjunction/steakandchese built up tolerance but this shit isnt sick...

its low quality... u can barely see shit.

7 / 10

i need a dvd rip of this.

w0w..i decided to dl the vid..the first 10 seconds i hear screaming and the terrorist screaming at him in arabic... just that first 10 seconds, i had to turn it off..i was about to cry.imagine if i saw the whole video?


and reading from the post, his head was cut by a fuckin knife?! OMFG! phew, thank god i didn't see the vid

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Originally posted by politicsofdancin w0w..i decided to dl the vid..the first 10 seconds i hear screaming and the terrorist screaming at him in arabic... just that first 10 seconds, i had to turn it off..i was about to cry.imagine if i saw the whole video? and reading from the post, his head was cut by a fuckin knife?! OMFG! phew, thank god i didn't see the vid

Thank God is right.

The scumfuck used a knife. Not a machete, not an axe, a simple knife. I never heard a scream like that in my life.

By releasing the video, the stupid fucks responsible for killing Nick Berg have hurt their own cause tremendously. Even Hizbollah condems the murder.

Seems that cookies are worth more than human life these days.

No way will I watch the video and be scarred for life. I don't get the America Bashing here, you can hate Bush, hate their foreign policy, hate what they do but what happened to the berg guy was not anti american, it was anti human. How fucking sick do you have to be to behead a guy with a knife on video, that is a true psychopath imo. It was unhuman, you hate something that much, you kill an innocent guy who just happened to be American, who was trying to earn a living like the rest of us. I personally think if a Canadian or a Greek was there, they would have killed him. About hating the middle east, you realize that .001% of these people do this, not the population. I'm sure that most people in the Middle East are as angry as the western world is. It is a few, so why bomb an entire people...as usual wwu.punisher makes no sense.

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Originally posted by torontotrance No way will I watch the video and be scarred for life.

Smart choice.

and what stupid yahoos who hate people anyway, just want this as a reason to completely bomb something. People don't realize that the groups that are doing this are a small part of the population, less than 1%. You have to remember, the same % in normal populations are psychopaths. So this does not surprise me after what happened to Pearl. It is unhuman, you have to have no conscience to do this, I mean kidnap a guy, behead him and then act heroic about it. Turns my stomach.

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Originally posted by torontotrance About hating the middle east, you realize that .001% of these people do this, not the population. I'm sure that most people in the Middle East are as angry as the western world is. It is a few, so why bomb an entire people...as usual wwu.punisher makes no sense.

you are right andy, that is like saying..all americans are pro war..or they are dumb or we hate americans..wtf the grass is always greener on the other side people..

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