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i was talkin to a few business-men in the area and they were saying not to go with tequila frogs because they have screwed people over in the past with rent. so im gonna start at the beginning and try to get the chamber of commerce involved, they always want new tourists to come here. i dunno maybe the convention center parking lot??? ill keep looking.....and octane do u know ferry corsten cuz if you do HOOK UP!!!

Another place to try is Louie's backyard. They have the setup to handle some big name DJs they can handle us. They have a huge outside deck which could be one stage and one huge deck upstairs for a 2nd stage. I have talked to the owner before and I have his business card if you would like to give him a call and talk to him. I think he still owns the place. Let me know.

yeah can you pm me it cuz when i went the manager said that i needed to talk to the director of operations and that he wasnt going to be in until today(thur) but i have a bunch of classes today so i cant.

Summer 2005? Dang it,that sound cool but I don't know if I wanna go back to my home country then...

But someone,post a cliff notes update on what's the deal now? That'd be nice,thanks.

basically im planning a concert/party/festival whatever in summer 2005. right now im looking for a venue and trying to solidify the line-up and bill/profits/if i will even come out even. the dates pretty much set all i need is venue and then i can proceed with selling tickets and further preparing for the actual date to arrive.....

Rapfiend: Check your PMs

thanks again man sorry about that.

MezzicanTrancEr made some good points about the importance of drawing people to the party. I have some thoughts of my own on that...

Regarding headliners, I think that many party throwers will tend to rely almost solely on their headliners to draw in people to the event. While this is arguably more effective than just having locals play at the event, I believe an event that showcases local talent (ideologically) has far greater potential for future parties of the same flavour. I'll tell you why... having "headliners" is the normal thing to do, people will go to parties here and there, thrown by a plethora of different organisers, and they'll go to see 'Ron-E' or 'Kid Icarus' etc, and when the party is over they'll have fond memories if it went well, but the only loyalty they are likely to gain is to the headlining DJs, as opposed to the party organisers, any crews involved, and the local acts who just aren't on an even playing field with whoever is showcased as a 'headliner'.

Call me idealistic, but Bo, I see this event you are organising as having great potential if we work hard to make it something different from the norm. I have seen this done at parties before in Australia and it works on several levels. Instead of having 'headliners' and then the local underdogs, have every act or crew that is performing (that includes crews dedicated to decor, crews dedicated to lighting, and of course crews dedicated to music) as knights at a round table if you will. If it is organised and promoted sufficiently (and yes this will be harder than if there were recognised headliners playing), I envision that the people attending - provided we put on a solid, well organised, entertaining show and that they thus have a great time - will have a new found loyalty in the party itself (allowing for subsequent parties of the same theme), and most importantly since people are being given a neutral atmosphere where no one is 'headlining', local acts/crews have a MUCH better chance to be heard/seen on an equal playing field, resulting in a more intimate event.

All of what I've just said reminds me of this one promotor back in Melbourne who runs the 'Smile Police' crew. Every year he throws a party called NRG (New Rave Generation), this year was NRG 7. As a promotor, his number one priority is local up-and-coming talent, and getting them out into the world where they can perform to a loving crowd and grow as DJs. Smile Police has a HUGE following in Melbourne because of the respect that this ideology has drawn from people. There is never anyone to steal the show at Smile Police events, just a plethora of good solid local talent. Now obviously there are going to be experienced locals who have had more exposure due to their experience than newcomers, but my point is that everyone is still on a relatively even playing field because of the way the parties are promoted. One example of a DJ who was nurtured by Garth (head promotor and founder of Smile Police) is Steve Strangis, who is huge all over Australia now, and has recently opened for AvB in front of 7500 people at Godskitchen in Melbourne. When asked why Steve wasn't on the lineup for the next NRG party, Garth replied by saying his goal is to nurture new local talent, and he had done that with Steve, to the point that Steve now has no trouble getting booked all over the country. That gives you some idea as to what kind of person Garth is, and he has the respect of many.

Now obviously the situation will be different everywhere you go in the world, and the valley isn't as populated as Melbourne (~3.5 million), but I believe that to a certain extent, these ideas can be implemented successfully on a smaller scale. Thing is, creating this kind of loyalty is hard when the population of Texas is so scattered. One of the reasons it works in Melbourne is that it has a concentrated population, unlike our area where we are spread between San Antonio, Austin, Dallas, Houston, the Valley, etc. Still, I believe this kind of party can work well, if organised and promoted well.

The key is promotion. Having promotors who volunteer, and then holding several meetings so that ideas can be exchanged and everyone knows what needs to be done. Incentive to promote is not only free entry to the events and industry price tickets to sell to friends, but a chance to network with others and to help the electronic music scene prosper. The more promotors the better, you can never have too many, because word of mouth is a very strong and efficient tool of promotion, and everyone is interconnected with other people in a unique way.

I'm interested to hear your thoughts, everyone.

i fully agree with you Packer


Thing is, many party kids or rather, peoples, are fuckle and are like "well i dont know who the fuck these guys but hey! i know how ron e is" which is lame, cuz its the locals who keep it going. I would like to think thats wht we do in DCS< ya know?


I think this event should do that, cater to the up and coming as well as bring in some good respected locals *ones that we have named earlier* and btw - if any of you kats think of me as a respected local, hehe i am flattered. but nuff of that

one big reason i dont like playing in austin is because of the elitist attitude it has. SA has one of the friendliest yet fickle crowds, I hear nothing but good things bout the calley crowds, as one of the most laid back yet music loving crowds.


any help we can dish out , let us know

I hate living in the Valley for 6 months of every year, but I must admit, the Valley kids are great (the ones involved in the EDM scene). Packer, I think you made several great points in the novel you posted and I think everyone has the right to start getting excited. With the right promotion this will be a great success I think. Showcasing local talent and ignoring headliners would be a great approach for everyone trying to breakthrough. Packer, you have the right idea....

Thanks Dirk, thanks Andy! Keep the feedback coming

heres a question that ive been getting and i really cant answer truthfully.....how many people should i expect to show for this concert?

and packer i agree with you that if it was just locals (tx) then it would really get the ball rolling on the valley/texas edm scene to really open up and have many listeners and t.x.t.addicts. the only problem is to bring people down from diffrent parts of texas..(and ive gotten this question from businessmen and directors)...we would all have to put in some hard work in getting the word out, passing flyers out, and gaureenteeing(sp?) that everyone will have a good time. also ive come to the conclusion that if we're gonna do this right we prob gonna need 2 stages(one soft[trance ect.] and one hard[hard trance, techno, drum and bass]) and a sponsor/or donations from businesses. laters....

p.s. packer - how long did that take you hemingway???

If I had to guess, I would have to guess an attendence of maybe 150+ at top 450, cant expect too large a turn out for the simple fact that its a local heavy event...like Cinder, packe and others have stated, many people will not attend parties UNLESS there is a regional/national/global headliner. I have high hopes for this party, but I have to be realistic.

Thanks,
~Mike M.

awesome thanks feuhrer.

also i think that we(the DJ's, any street promoters from TA.com, and me) do have to have a meeting of some sort just to make sure that we're on the same page and basically to brainstorm ideas.

Thanks guys. Bo, this is why I emphasised that the key is well planned promotion in which we need to put a lot of effort. At some stage, a few months before the party, we'd need to recruit promotors and hold organiser/promotor meetings to coordinate our efforts in making sure the event is sufficiently exposed, and well enough ahead of time. There's no doubt about it, this can be done if it is done right. There is no harm in getting those involved together in the near future also, like you said, to brainstorm ideas, not only for promotion but for the organising of the event itself. Another thing, I don't think we should put much effort into trying to get people to drive from all over Texas to attend this event, it's more risky and besides that, they aren't as likely to be repeat customers, as opposed to the support that we want to build locally. I think San Antonio would be about as far as we'd want to promote this heavily. Also I think 2 stages is a good number to work with for a first event, to give the crowd a bit of variety, while not costing too much to set up.

Haha and that last post took maybe 30 mins

thoughts?

yeah i agreed i was thinking that atx would be kinda reaching and dallas improbable, same with h-town. and yeah we should meet well i know ill meet DCS when i go to adrenaline in oktober.

sorry i just never really knew where college station was...always thought its was a mythical beautiful place......j/k

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Originally posted by rapfiend03 sorry i just never really knew where college station was...always thought its was a mythical beautiful place......j/k

LOL, it exists.... a Utopia in the midst of small hick towns.... a virtual Shangri-La. The home of the worst football team in the Big 12 this season and houses more beautiful girls than you know what to do with.

i bet its the utopia of white texas college girls.

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Originally posted by rapfiend03 i bet its the utopia of white texas college girls.

yes it is.

hahaha, we should probably get back on topic.

yeah your right do you'll wanna meet up at adrenaline? ima try to get the chamber of commerce involved cuz they always want more tourists so maybe they can help me out with finding the right venue....

Should definitely meet up at Adrenaline, and a few of us should do lunch sometime don't ya reckon?

well being in the valley doing lunch in SA is a roadtrip haha. but yeah ill def be at adrenalin (already asked for days off )

that could be a good time to do lunch then, while you're up here... if you have some free time that is

yeah i prob will ill be up in time for Insomnia of fri. and then we can do lunch the next day or on Sun before i leave. by the do you know what time adrenaline starts? lates

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