TranceAddict Forums (www.tranceaddict.com/forums)
- Chill Out Room
-- What's with Ford Mustangs?
Pages (6): « 1 2 3 4 [5] 6 »

quote:

Originally posted by Hawk240 The American version is called an RPS13, or for short, an S13. In Japan it is called the Silvia. Here it can be called either a S13, or a 240SX. getfoul: You must not go to too many auto-x events, because turboed miatas do well. Jesus christ you can't even give credit to a car when it's due. Least I can.

Unless you did an engine swap and several other mods, it's a 240SX, jackass.

As for the people who are all "american muscle" or all for "japanese supercars", you're all retards. I know imports that can beat domestics and domestics that can beat imports. So quit being a discriminatory prick and go outside.

quote:

Are you talking in terms of the GT40 production vehicle or the race version? If you're talking about the production vehicle then that's not very impressive IMO. The GT40 was created in the 60s (I believe) for the Le Mans circuit. So the idea of the GT40 has been around for over 30 years, Ford just revamped it and upgraded to lighter composite materials & better technology over the years.

actually i completly dissagree... here's why

first of all the new version is the ford GT, not GT40 some asswipe copyrighted teh name and wouldnt sell it back to ford.... plus the new version is 4 inches taller and then we would have to call it hte GT44.... since the GT40 was only 40 inches tall.


secondly the origional GT40 was a 6 year design process. the new GT was a COMPLETE redesign from scratch. the only aspect of the origional is the body styling.

the origional started with a 302 small block ford for the Mark 1 and by the mark 4 had gone to a 429 big block V8 built by carroll shelby.

the new GT uses a completely new design of a 5.4 liter mod DOHC ford v8, all aluminum 32 valve with a roots supercharger putting 550+ ponys to the road. the frame and chassis were all redesigned using a tubular aluminum space frame and the body design especially the aerodynamics have been completely re done, it does look the same on the outside but underneath the car and the hood scoops at teh front have been extesively modified to improve downforces.

interior wise its not even the same planet. the origional was a gage cluster and racing seat. the new one has modernized interior styling.

now what i meant by a major accomplishment apart from being a gorgeous and amazing veichle as a whole is taht they took a prototype show car and had the vehichle ready for full scale production in just 12 months. that means all the manufacturers were lined up, stamps and dies were constructed to make the various parts, Romeo engine plant in MI created a new building on its grounds to hand build each one of the engines. plastics companies worked to build injection moulds for the various plastic componenets. etc etc... it is an amazing feat no other car can boast that kind of timing...... trust me, for our current launch of the 05 crown vic and grand marquis, the work for the redesigned parts started about 4 years ago.

quote:

Originally posted by kid nyce wtf...and to be quite honest, 4 cylinders pushing out over 300+hp (modded or not "sti& evo") is quite an accomplishment.

I agree with this statement 100%. The American automobile industry seems to be stuck on the idea that "bigger is better" whereas the rest of the world (for the most part) likes to improve upon existing technology. It's almost like an American car is not viewed as truely American unless it has a V8 or larger under the hood.

These days you have 4 cylinder engines putting out the power that old V8 muscle cars did and getting gas milage that V8s could only dream about.

quote:

As for the people who are all "american muscle" or all for "japanese supercars", you're all retards. I know imports that can beat domestics and domestics that can beat imports. So quit being a discriminatory prick and go outside.

Quit being such a TIT!!!

join the fight or STFU!!! Joking Ha

quote:

The American automobile industry seems to be stuck on the idea that "bigger is better" whereas the rest of the world (for the most part) likes to improve upon existing technology

????? what the fuck do oyu call a ford 302 block? how bout one of the oldest engine designs in the industry and still being improved on today....... might i add that block is a favorite among car enthusiasts because of its ease of modification.

quote:

Originally posted by TeKnoHe@d2025 I agree with this statement 100%. The American automobile industry seems to be stuck on the idea that "bigger is better" whereas the rest of the world (for the most part) likes to improve upon existing technology. It's almost like an American car is not viewed as truely American unless it has a V8 or larger under the hood. These days you have 4 cylinder engines putting out the power that old V8 muscle cars did and getting gas milage that V8s could only dream about.

Hemi Magnum jackass. check it's gas milage and it's a v8 to boot . 4 cylinders can push power, look at the ecotec lisa kubo's car and the 2.2 from teh cavi. 1000 HP outta a 2.0. The best times outta 4 cylinders too, the hondas cant even compete.

Japanese can do good motors, toyota/lexus is erally th only one i like and respect. 980 HP outta the stock block is nothing to laugh at. The guy i believe lives in michigan with this car. But the saying goes and will always go, no replacement for displacement. It's proven time after time. The more you put in the more you can put out the higher numbers and the faster the times.

quote:

Originally posted by getfoul Hemi Magnum jackass. check it's gas milage and it's a v8 to boot .

Hey jackass, that's all due to the Multi-Displacement System (MDS) that essentially turns that V8 into a four cylinder. No need for you to go around calling people names, I didn't even say shit to you.

i know, i just wanted to argue.

quote:

Originally posted by Pariah Cleric Unless you did an engine swap and several other mods, it's a 240SX, jackass.

Actualy S13 is a chassy (spelling?) code not an engine code...european 200SX, american 240SX and japanese 180SX are the same car if you dont count the engine. Also the sylvia S13 and the 180/200/240 are the same car. Different bodywork but the same car. So he can say he drives an S13. It would be different if he said he had an RB18DET

quote:

As for the people who are all "american muscle" or all for "japanese supercars", you're all retards. I know imports that can beat domestics and domestics that can beat imports. So quit being a discriminatory prick and go outside.

That thing is here that we dont agree on the criteria. Every time ive gotten into this argument, the muscle fan boys started throwing 1/4 miles times at me. This may not seem objective but a 1/4 time tells you shit about a cars overall performance, but for some people that is the only criteria that tell them if a car is good or not In general american cars suck at handling so they respond to this in the only way they know...bigger engines with more HP so logicaly they will be better in a straight line. But put them on a real race track where one needs to brake, shift and tackle corners they loose the HP advantage.


BTW yes the Ford GT is preety fast and the vette C6 doesnt handle like a vbette at all it can actualy take a corner at a decent speed (suprisiongly since it still has leaf springs ) but those are just two drops in the ocean...they are the best americans can do and they compete with the mostly average cars of the rest of the world

quote:

Originally posted by Moongoose Actualy S13 is a chassy (spelling?) code not an engine code...european 200SX, american 240SX and japanese 180SX are the same car if you dont count the engine. Also the sylvia S13 and the 180/200/240 are the same car. Different bodywork but the same car. So he can say he drives an S13. It would be different if he said he had an RB18DET That thing is here that we dont agree on the criteria. Every time ive gotten into this argument, the muscle fan boys started throwing 1/4 miles times at me. This may not seem objective but a 1/4 time tells you shit about a cars overall performance, but for some people that is the only criteria that tell them if a car is good or not In general american cars suck at handling so they respond to this in the only way they know...bigger engines with more HP so logicaly they will be better in a straight line. But put them on a real race track where one needs to brake, shift and tackle corners they loose the HP advantage. BTW yes the Ford GT is preety fast and the vette C6 doesnt handle like a vbette at all it can actualy take a corner at a decent speed (suprisiongly since it still has leaf springs ) but those are just two drops in the ocean...they are the best americans can do and they compete with the mostly average cars of the rest of the world

*sigh* I love the generalizations, ...the best Americans can do... Have we failed to notice Saleen, the Viper GTS-R, Panoz, MT900, the XLR or CTS-V blah blh blah. Just cause we drive SUVs doesnt mean we don't have cars that compete with the best Europe has to offer. Often times the faster hand built roadsters from europe use the American engines.

quote:

Originally posted by Moongoose BTW yes the Ford GT is preety fast and the vette C6 doesnt handle like a vbette at all it can actualy take a corner at a decent speed (suprisiongly since it still has leaf springs ) but those are just two drops in the ocean...they are the best americans can do and they compete with the mostly average cars of the rest of the world

doesn't look like leaf springs to me...

colonelcrisp: you're on just bring that Marauder down here for a tour on the 720 and you get in with me free of charge

quote:

Originally posted by Hawk240 It's you're.. Not your.

quote:

Originally posted by Hawk240 You're spelling is horrible. SMRT spells smart!

OWNED... by yourself?!

hahaahahah owned again.

quote:

Originally posted by kid nyce Orbax, I usually agree with your knowledge in automotive but I'm soo sorry to say but ford focus BAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH And I think someone made a comment on how Ford was leading WRC? Are you guys serious? If anything citrogen

Citroen

quote:

would be leading the WRC, with Ford behind it as tally'd points ranked higher by MANUFACTURER. And usually point tallying is a distribution between CAR and DRIVER. Solberg(subaru) is 2nd above Martin representing Ford. I think alot of the jibber jabber here is all OPINIONATED!

uhm...actually watching the WRC might help on forming opinions. Rally Finland is generally agreed to be the toughest rally in the world and Martin took it in the Focus. Hes usually not first, but kicking some nice ass seeing as the focus is a lot younger than the subaru. The focus is kicking ass. That isnt debatable.

quote:

Some love domestic others love imports...the blocks are completely different...its like comparing cast iron to aluminum? wtf...and to be quite honest, 4 cylinders pushing out over 300+hp (modded or not "sti& evo") is quite an accomplishment.

#1 that engine alloy analogy made no sense

#2 the WRX with its 4 cyl hits 750hp np. My brothers WRX has 350 right now and hes barely touched it. plus ALL the WRC cars are 4 cyl. You think theyre bitch cars? The 4 banger is a wonderful engine. Dont talk shit

quote:

Originally posted by Hawk240 You know, you're right: http://www.pettersen-autoimport.no/...cars/3000GT.htm

I hope thats a joke. A really really unfunny joke that doesnt make sense.


wait, that IS what it is. NM.

quote:

Originally posted by Moongoose Actualy S13 is a chassy (spelling?) code not an engine code...european 200SX, american 240SX and japanese 180SX are the same car if you dont count the engine. Also the sylvia S13 and the 180/200/240 are the same car. Different bodywork but the same car. So he can say he drives an S13. It would be different if he said he had an RB18DET That thing is here that we dont agree on the criteria. Every time ive gotten into this argument, the muscle fan boys started throwing 1/4 miles times at me. This may not seem objective but a 1/4 time tells you shit about a cars overall performance, but for some people that is the only criteria that tell them if a car is good or not In general american cars suck at handling so they respond to this in the only way they know...bigger engines with more HP so logicaly they will be better in a straight line. But put them on a real race track where one needs to brake, shift and tackle corners they loose the HP advantage.

tracks do have straights as well. And until recently with the advanced ECU tech going into wheel control, the still amazing engineering of Americans (moon in 1969 for example) has been able to keep close enough to hit those straights and eat the competition.

quote:

BTW yes the Ford GT is preety fast and the vette C6 doesnt handle like a vbette at all it can actualy take a corner at a decent speed (suprisiongly since it still has leaf springs ) but those are just two drops in the ocean...they are the best americans can do and they compete with the mostly average cars of the rest of the world

the GT beats ferraris if you forgot and labeling something as a "vette" is retarded considering its been around for over 50 years. lingenfelter and callaway have also done some pretty amazing things with them. EG, the 1980s sledgehammer which until 2002 held worlds fastest car title.

Europeans arent the end all companies, and I think youre probably unaware that americans own many car cos over there and are doing what they would do here if it wasnt for Californian emission standards.

quote:

Originally posted by Orbax Europeans arent the end all companies, and I think youre probably unaware that americans own many car cos over there and are doing what they would do here if it wasnt for Californian emission standards.

Keep a close eye on what cali is doing for the emissions standards, because 90% of the time, the same laws will be in your state in a year or two. anyone ever heard of OBDIII? That's closer to being implimented in california then anywhere else.


Californian emissions laws



ps. Click on obdIII for more info.

Ohh well, it brings me work.

quote:

Originally posted by Moongoose So he can say he drives an S13. It would be different if he said he had an RB18DET

There's no such thing as an RB18DET I think you mean the CA18DETT Personally, I don't think you would be able to distinguish the differences between an apple and a pear, because just about everything you attempted to validate in your post was incorrect.

Sorry about that i was drunk and thining of a few other things

quote:

Originally posted by colonelcrisp http://static124.photobox.co.uk/images/link/6/52e61bef86ba2b4bdebf_385884_10954501.jpg?ch=3 the spedo on my lunch break http://static123.photobox.co.uk/images/link/3/edaaa9b6fafeb14064a0_385884_10954502.jpg?ch=3 shot of the power plant... any questions pm me http://static122.photobox.co.uk/images/link/6/6148729952da71d339e0_385884_10954503.jpg?ch=3 my buddys svt cobra at the st thomas assembly plant man my engineering manager made a huge mistake letting me do the drive evaluations on the supercharged marauder..... the cops would have pulled me over on the autobahn..... i pegged teh spedometer at 150 mph from stock this car has been outfitted with a new pcm module with a custom chip in it, upper and lower plenums have been replaced with a kit from trilogy automotive in ann arbour mi. it is a screw type supercharger runing 15 pounds boost. the transmission has been rebuilt with a new gear ratio (not sure what it is tho... it wasnt specified) and it has slicks in the rear mounted on the origional 21" 5 spoke pollished aluminum rims. also an extra fuel pressure and boost gage were installed in teh lower ip cluster. other than that its stock. other performance upgrades are the infamous decals..... (well the civic owners thinks it makes their cars faster anyways...) HA HA any quesitons pm me

Do you still have your Marauder?

Also sorry for bumping an old thread. Is TA going to be available on tapatalk?

I miss everybody.

quote:

Originally posted by Silky Johnson I miss everybody.

Hey another OG TA!

Yeah I haven't posted in literally years.

Woah, Mebot

Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright © 2000-2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.