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for goodness sakes North Korea still has more medals than us .. that and a lotta our 'medal hopefuls' are starting to bow out..

i think Canada is also the only country in history to host an Olympic games and not win a Gold medal during those games (Montreal 1976)..

embarassing indeed ..

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Originally posted by starsearcher I just realized how many athletes Canada has sent to these Olympic Games...over 400...

it's 266.

and why the heck are you all putting our country down. any of you in the olympics? any of you ever come close? seriously.

so what if there are no medals. the this is that some people came close like the kayaker, 4 place. the swimmer showed his best time ever, beat his own record. how do you think they feel when all of canada is just thinking about medal count. they look at the news and read the internet there too.

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Originally posted by StereoPrincess it's 266. and why the heck are you all putting our country down. any of you in the olympics? any of you ever come close? seriously. so what if there are no medals. the this is that some people came close like the kayaker, 4 place. the swimmer showed his best time ever, beat his own record. how do you think they feel when all of canada is just thinking about medal count. they look at the news and read the internet there too.

Brian Williams brought this point up while he was talking to Mark Tewksbery after our mens 4x200 relay failed to medal. Mark was mentioning how many of our athletes focus on beating their personal bests as a goal. this is fine, but then consider that other countries using Olympic and world records as a benchmark. They were even talking about how the 'world was getting better' on CBC once and I couldn't help but to think that Canada shouldn't be left behind.

i'm not putting our athletes down, i just think that they deserve much better. there's no reason why they can't be just as successful if not moreso than other countries of our stature.

Wohooo we just got a silver medal.....WOHOO

FINALLY

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Originally posted by starsearcher Wohooo we just got a silver medal.....WOHOO FINALLY

lol yeah in trampoline hehe

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Originally posted by StereoPrincess it's 266. and why the heck are you all putting our country down. any of you in the olympics? any of you ever come close? seriously. so what if there are no medals. the this is that some people came close like the kayaker, 4 place. the swimmer showed his best time ever, beat his own record. how do you think they feel when all of canada is just thinking about medal count. they look at the news and read the internet there too.

266??? So there are more coaches and trainers then athletes then??

close is close...but close doesn't cut it...try telling it to the kayaker who was aiming for the podium...do you think he's satisfied with a 4th place finish? Last time i checked he was really pissed off. And same about the swimmers.
There was only one or two swimmers that really did well...and apparently 0 out of 6 on the first day reached their personal best and nobody qualified anywhere beyond the first round. Hell even our own atheletes are bashing themselves for lack of success...

Alright well let's leave swimming...we're not so strong with swimming but what about the other sports. Besides i'm not bashing the athletes as much as i'm bashing the "system" and the stupid CBC broadcasting, just read what I wrote about it earlier.

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Originally posted by dEsidEL i'm not putting our athletes down, i just think that they deserve much better. there's no reason why they can't be just as successful if not moreso than other countries of our stature.

how can they be just as successful with no fucking money to train and do well. do you realize what sort of advantages other countries have on us?

lucky they are getting to go at all. canada couldn't support more atheletes so the standards were raised, they still can't support the atheletes that went.

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Originally posted by StereoPrincess how can they be just as successful with no fucking money to train and do well. do you realize what sort of advantages other countries have on us? lucky they are getting to go at all. canada couldn't support more atheletes so the standards were raised, they still can't support the atheletes that went.

that's my whole point .. it's not about the athletes, but the lack of financial support that they receive

no one here is saying that our athletes suck .. Canada as a country is just capable of so much more

Yup...just like Desidel said it...

And just another thing...there was a Japanese swimmer that won a medal or two already and he trains in....WATERLOO!!! Japan was never big in swimming but look at them this year

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Originally posted by starsearcher Yup...just like Desidel said it... And just another thing...there was a Japanese swimmer that won a medal or two already and he trains in....WATERLOO!!! Japan was never big in swimming but look at them this year

yeah a lotta out athletes are forced to train in the states as well because they lack the funding here.. infact many athletes around the world do this

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Originally posted by dEsidEL yeah a lotta out athletes are forced to train in the states as well because they lack the funding here.. infact many athletes around the world do this

Indeed...and not cause of lack of funding really but more like there's much more opportunites abroad. For example...you can get a full scholarship to an amazing school in the US - but it's all private there and very expensive, however if youre an athlete you'll be in heaven.

The thing is our own system and our own coaches seem to be below world class level because when it comes to perform for our country they kinda fall flat. And the Canadian swimmer Mark Tewksbury even said it himself, together with past swimmers that the preparation of athletes for these games was done all wrong cause none of them seemed to perform well at all. So again, not necessarily an athelete's fault at all

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But what pisses me off the most is when they say on CBC - oh here is our Canadian athlete...they are the best, they are guaranteed a medal and BAM they fail. Then comes some Chinese athlete and they say...this athlete is okay but they are really not expected to get any medals or be a condender...and guess what...they end up on the podium...seriously STOP WITH THE STUPID BS!!!

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Aug. 20, 2004. 01:00 AM No more Mr. Nice Guy It's time Canada learned a few lessons from our southern neighbours about a winning attitude ROSIE DIMANNO ATHENS�Canadians are gracious in defeat. Perhaps that's the problem. It's our national character, to be modest and self-effacing, nice people, international peacekeepers, not a hostile bone in our bodies. We are the Miss Congeniality of the world. But that doesn't translate well into the arena of sports competition. It predisposes us, mentally, to losing. It's no surprise that flag-bearer Nicolas Gill will return home without a medal from the XXVIII Olympic Games. He's 32, beyond his prime as a judoka, and competing on a recently reconstructed knee. Gill is a gallant sportsman. But elimination in his opening round, against an opponent who'd never beaten him before, on an abrupt ippon, is significantly disappointing. There's been a lot of that here thus far � disappointments. The issue is not that Canadian athletes are failing to win medals; it's that they're failing even to match personal bests, which surely can be reasonably expected of them. If not at the Olympics, a charged atmosphere conducive to unprecedented personal performances, then where? Ah, but we have no shortage of sports psychologists to ease the pain. Clearly those same mental coaches have ill-prepared their charges for the challenge of their lives. Or maybe it's the quality of coaching, always a convenient excuse for failure. Doesn't seem to bother athletes from impoverish African countries, though, who regularly run their hearts out and achieve glory without an ounce of coddling. It can't be entirely about the money and the funding, nor that we are a small winter nation with a shallow talent pool. The Netherlands has clocked 11 medals, Romania four. Canada is bottom-trolling, down there at one slim bronze with the likes of Slovenia and Mongolia. We are a Third World country, athletically. But tops for sportsmanship, yay Canada. This is not meant as an indictment of Canadian athletes. But how often must we listen to downcast losers saying this just wasn't their day, they didn't feel ready, were out of sorts, too unfocused, not hungry enough. I am left speechless by such meek acquiescence. Our neighbours to the south are in a hand-wringing dither because they've won just 35 medals � 14 of them gold � to this point. They are not accustomed to such piddly results, even though they are first in the medal standings. Americans dream big and they expect to win large. This is a healthy, hard-nosed perception of self. They believe themselves capable of anything and set high goals. So high that American teenager Michael Phelps � derided for taking a bead on eight gold medals in Athens � is considered something of a failure for falling a bit short, just as track star Marion Jones was portrayed as being hopelessly vain for calling her five gold shots in Sydney, and winning a mere three. It troubles Americans not an iota that others see them as swaggering sports bullies, athletic extensions of an imperialist power. Indeed, some of the same domestic commentators who'd earlier urged U.S. athletes to cool their strut in Athens � keep a low profile, given the international anti-Americanism of the moment � have now reversed themselves, recognizing belatedly that Yanks need to beat their chests and holler and glare and deliver those Maurice Greene-like declarations of supremacy. They don't do modest very well. It's put them off their game. Canadians could do with some strut. It's an attitudinal matter. And while we may recoil from American-style out-sized ego, all that posturing and gall, Canadians have been, proportionately, at least as over-the-top on those rare occasions when we've had something to cheer about. Is any country more boastful about hockey? Has any nation waved the flag more exuberantly than did Canada when Donovan Bailey emerged as the fastest man on earth in Atlanta? Hell, we were giddy when Greg Joy took high jumping silver in Montreal in 1976, and plumped with pride over Silken Laumann's gutsy bronze in Barcelona. We'd never dream of telling ourselves to shut up already. Really, those mighty Americans � and Chinese and Japanese and even Australians, with their tiresome Oy! Oy! Oy! � are nowhere near as smug and insufferable in triumph as Canadians. We just think we're made of finer, more virtuous stuff. Especially when we crash out. Go Canada: WE'RE NUMBER 41!

source:
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Co...tacodalogin=yes

OMG how can we allow ourselves to learn from the Americans...after all they are all ignorant stupid and don't know anything about anything It's our national past time to make fun of them not to learn from them

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Originally posted by starsearcher OMG how can we allow ourselves to learn from the Americans...after all they are all ignorant stupid and don't know anything about anything It's our national past time to make fun of them not to learn from them

Actually, we should be comparing ourselves with AUSTRALIA. We have a similar (somewhat) history and simialr population.


Yet they're kicking our ass in Olympic medals (even if you include Winter Olympic medals in the comparison).


edit: and their GDP per capita is higher...

so much for Trudeau's Canada

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Originally posted by ShadoWolf Actually, we should be comparing ourselves with AUSTRALIA. We have a similar (somewhat) history and simialr population. Yet they're kicking our ass in Olympic medals (even if you include Winter Olympic medals in the comparison). edit: and their GDP per capita is higher... so much for Trudeau's Canada

many sports analysts often compare our sports program to Australia. they are a very comparable country to our own, while they hold an edge in summer climate, we hold an equal edge in winter sports. but as you said, they're still blowing us away if u add both into the equation..

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props to guys like RICK SAY



"I'm pissed off," Say told CBC after the race. "I wanted a medal in this race. It's unacceptable, us not winning a medal. This is crap."

"I'm pissed off. I wanted a medal in this race and I take full responsibility. I couldn't get these guys up and get myself up to win a medal. That's what happens, you come fifth.

"It's unacceptable. I'm pissed off. I'm disappointed. This is crap."

(Brian Johns)
"It just wasn't enough to get to the podium. It's a big disappointment. It was a Canadian record by a lot, but it was consolation prize compared to what we wanted."

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Judo Canada suspends coach after athlete complaints: report Last Updated: Fri Aug 20 09:15:09 EDT 2004 CBC SPORTS ONLINE - A Canadian judo coach has been suspended following complaints from five athletes, including three Olympians, La Presse newspaper reported Friday. Coach Sylvain Hebert, 40, was replaced prior to the 2004 Athens Olympics by Ewan Beaton, Judo Canada's co-ordinator of national coaches. The nature of the athlete complaints has not been disclosed. Olympians Marie-Helene Chisholm, Carolyne Lepage and Amy Cotton were among the judokas to complain about Hebert. A Judo Canada committee will hear from both parties and their lawyers about the situation after the Olympics, according to the La Presse report. "The issue is under examination and we can't talk about it," Louis Jani, the Canadian Olympic judo team leader, told La Presse. "But there is certainly a deep disagreement between these athletes and the coach." Although he's been temporarily relieved of his national duties, Hebert remains coach of the Varennes Judo Club in Quebec. Judo Quebec president Daniel De Anglis told La Presse the matter is serious enough that three of Canada's top female judo athletes asked for their coach not to join them in Athens. Hebert told the paper he couldn't comment on the situation since it remains unresolved. with files from Canadian Press Written by CBC Sports Online staff

Source: http://www.cbc.ca/story/olympics/na...oach040820.html

Well this is new...China and the US are tied EXACTLY with the same number of medals...

Gold Silver Bronze Total
China 15 11 10 36
United States 15 11 10 36


That's wild

OH MAN!!! This Canadian boxer Andrew Kooner is just amazing...WOW what a grea boxer, I'm so impressed I really hope he wins something cause that guy is just unreal! SO GOOD!

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Originally posted by starsearcher OH MAN!!! This Canadian boxer Andrew Kooner is just amazing...WOW what a grea boxer, I'm so impressed I really hope he wins something cause that guy is just unreal! SO GOOD!

is he the guy who beat the Thai boxer in the featherweight class.. ? if so yeah that guy is sick! i love the caller commentator too .. "look BRUCE he's KILLING HIM with tha ONE-TWO!!"

^^ No that's not the same guy...the one you are referring to is Gaudet who will fight later today Definitely good luck to him

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Oh yeah I LOVE these boxing commentators...one's calling the other coach all the time and they are just SO enthusiastic and hillarious...they are so fun to watch and listen

Mark Boswell the Canadian high jumper is doing SO well...I'm very excited about him he seems to be doing an excellent job

How fucking sickening is this?

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Olympians largely barred from blogging (AP) -- Athletes may be the center of attention at the Olympic Games, but don't expect to hear directly from them online -- or see snapshots or video they've taken. The International Olympic Committee is barring competitors, as well as coaches, support personnel and other officials, from writing firsthand accounts for news and other Web sites. An exception is if an athlete has a personal Web site that they did not set up specifically for the Games. The IOC's rationale for the restrictions is that athletes and their coaches should not serve as journalists -- and that the interests of broadcast rightsholders and accredited media come first. translated: People who gave us the big coin come first. Participants in the games may respond to written questions from reporters or participate in online chat sessions -- akin to a face-to-face or telephone interview -- but they may not post journals or online diaries, blogs in Internet parlance, until the Games end August 29. To protect lucrative broadcast contracts, athletes and other participants are also prohibited from posting any video, audio or still photos they take themselves, even after the games, unless they get permission ahead of time. (Photos taken by accredited journalists are allowed on the personal sites.) The editor of a Web site that had arranged athlete diaries called the restrictions shortsighted. "This is unfathomable to me," said Robert Bliwise, editor of Duke Magazine, Duke University's alumni publication. "I don't understand what the International Olympic Committee might be concerned about. It's a way to engage a wide audience with reporting from the field and therefore generate excitement and interest in the games." His site had made arrangements with two graduates, pole vaulter Jillian Schwartz and race walker Curt Clausen, to provide firsthand accounts for the university's alumni. "This is a means to personalize the Olympics, to excite a constituency with the thrill that comes with the knowledge that a couple of their own are participants in the competition," Bliwise said. One entry, from Schwartz, remained posted Thursday; Bliwise said he had yet to be formally informed of any violations. But an IOC official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said third-party sites like Duke's are covered by the restrictions. The Olympic guidelines threaten to yank credentials from athletes who are in violation as well as to impose other sanctions or take legal action for any monetary damages. But the official said the IOC has yet to take any action against an athlete. The IOC distributed the policies to each country's Olympic committee in February.

source:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/intern...s.ap/index.html

In a related note, the IOC threatened to sue this university department for having an event called the "Rat Olympics" because they own rights to the word "Olympics".

Source:
http://rats.nebrwesleyan.edu/

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The IOC is an international non-governmental non-profit organisation and the creator of the Olympic Movement. The IOC exists to serve as an umbrella organisation of the Olympic Movement. It owns all rights to the Olympic symbols, flag, motto, anthem and Olympic Games. Its primary responsibility is to supervise the organisation of the summer and winter Olympic Games.

http://www.olympic.org/uk/organisation/ioc/index_uk.asp

YAY we have nother medal...this time it's once again silver and it came in rowing...It's a bit of a shame though we only got one but I'm sure there's more to come.

Unfortunately the trampoline guy Turgeon failed to qualify to the final

ukrainian guy won gold in the trampoline, yuri nikitin
russian guy got silver

i wanan see the quarter finals for the womens beach volleyball

heh i watching DW News last nite (German National News network) on CP24 and the media there is upset at their current 27 medals lol ..

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