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Originally posted by Floorfiller or maybe pro's are just regular people too and are capable of spending a little down time in anyway they choose

sorry i forgot it was TA protocol to only slate the artist when they arent here. Just like with mark sherry, once he puts one of his mixes up you cant find a single person who thinks he is shit.

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Originally posted by J:\Digital 99% of 38,441 = 38,056 I highly doubt that 38,056 TA's download and share.... I know that what I download doesn't get shared... and I don't go around downloading from other TA's. Like I said most of us go out and purchase something if we like the MP3 that we download, therefore the MP3 is no longer illegal if we have purchased another copy/form of it.... I bet it is a pretty small majority of TA's that do what you are accusing 99% of us for doing.

lighten up statto. Im sure you could understand my point without doing the mathematics.

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Originally posted by mike_stefan69 correction: they own a reconstructed rip

Again your assuming. It doesn't state what it is.

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Originally posted by Laushinameee sorry i forgot it was TA protocol to only slate the artist when they arent here. Just like with mark sherry, once he puts one of his mixes up you cant find a single person who thinks he is shit.

What about that guy who said he was shit in that thread Mark Sherry posted?

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=210219

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im not a tattle tale!

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Originally posted by flavdave What about that guy who said he was shit in that thread Mark Sherry posted?

and we all know what happens to people who slate mark sherry in mark sherry threads - x1 ban, x2 suspensions. I think its something that should be discussed on here really - how everyone slates Tiesto/Armin/Ferry or whoever, yet if one of these guys actually came on there would not be a single person saying anything bad against them ... or theyd get banned.

but perhaps another day for that one.

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Originally posted by Laushinameee sorry i forgot it was TA protocol to only slate the artist when they arent here. Just like with mark sherry, once he puts one of his mixes up you cant find a single person who thinks he is shit.

i'm sure that wasn't directed at me now was it? i'm always very straight forward on here about what i like and dislike and the fact that it's a "pro" doesn't really concern me. Now, Max...i happen to really enjoy most of his work, but i'm not gonna be afraid to tell him when i don't. I've told Dave Dresden when I haven't like the Gabriel & Dresden remixes and i'd do the same to max if i ever felt i didn't like something.

granted...there are people who kiss ass around here, but then there are also people like yourself that seem to be going out of their way to do just the opposite. perhaps you have too much time and that's why you feel the need to start stupid arguments about things artists post on TA?

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Originally posted by Frase Again your assuming. It doesn't state what it is.

max graham: "i smell a rip from someone else's set"

ive just searched the hubs and there is only a "cleaned up GDJB rip", owned, by amongst other, an enigmaTic person

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Originally posted by Laushinameee and we all know what happens to people who slate mark sherry in mark sherry threads - x1 ban, x2 suspensions. I think its something that should be discussed on here really - how everyone slates Tiesto/Armin/Ferry or whoever, yet if one of these guys actually came on there would not be a single person saying anything bad against them ... or theyd get banned. but perhaps another day for that one.

I will go on the record and say that there are Max Graham productions that I do not like. And there are Max Graham sets that I've heard that haven't blown me away. Does it count if he is not online now?

HAHAHAHA

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Originally posted by flavdave I will go on the record and say that there are Max Graham productions that I do not like. And there are Max Graham sets that I've heard that haven't blown me away. Does it count if he is not online now?

Good for you, but im not really bothered about what you think on this individual thing. Its just the 'trend' on here that is of concern. Im sure there are plenty of individuals who always say what they think all the time but not too many.

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Originally posted by Laushinameee Good for you, but im not really bothered about what you think on this individual thing. Its just the 'trend' on here that is of concern. Im sure there are plenty of individuals who always say what they think all the time but not too many.

why are you concerned about the trend. does it matter what someone else thinks

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Originally posted by hadi ****** why are you concerned about the trend. does it matter what someone else thinks

no. Thats not what a trend means. Im talking collectively about the forum as a whole.

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Originally posted by Laushinameee no. Thats not what a trend means. Im talking collectively about the forum as a whole.

haha, yea this forums has taken a turn downhill. haha, look at this fuckin thread for example

Max isnt done with TA, hes just done with this thread Im sure!

Look at how the story arc was laid out.....and look what has come of it.

If you bothered checking Max's site youd see that he has posted mp3s of RELEASED tracks and liveset promos he himself chose to represent HIS work and whatnot. Filesharing and the ethics thereof are of interest to max, but he isnt fighting the war.

Mostly this thread was about calling out a douche that tried ripping off a producer only to get caught by the man himself. And much like the Political Forum threads this one has turned into some sort of black and white witch hunt because someone wanted to argue the opposite side.

I would say that many TAs share, as with our genre we arent necessarily exposed to the best music right out - yet with that comes the responsibility of honoring artists you respect by either buying their work or not whoring it out for your own benefit.

I might dl something but if its good I will buy it and go to shows, not repackage it and deny responsibility. Max, from the shows I have seen and the times I have briefly talked to him in person and on the net is pure class and isnt whining for a paycheck.

Any questions?

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Originally posted by Laushinameee no. Thats not what a trend means. Im talking collectively about the forum as a whole.

Well are you on a mission to change that so called 'trend' then?

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Originally posted by biznology Any questions?

yea whats his webpage address. i want to get a live set of his, i havent heard one before

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Originally posted by biznology Any questions?

Yeah, run for presidency. Its about time your country had someone who spoke sense

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Originally posted by hadi ****** haha, yea this forums has taken a turn downhill. haha, look at this fuckin thread for example

Im not pretending many people are going to care. but you should, its apparent that when an artist comes on here its very difficult to find anyone with anything bad to say about them ... again with the mp3 thing, we all know people download mp3, yet when there is an mp3 issue youll not be able to find anyone who does it...

Its hypocritical that the moderators always chirp in with 'TA does not support filesharing' when there is a 'hub' which is associated with it for the purposes of sharing files amongst its users...

and if you go against the trend you are silenced by suspension & bans.

How many of you knew about this track before today? Sure it's advertisement. It's advertisement to go out and try to obtain this track before it's even been released. Job well done! Do you honestly think it was cool for him to talk about getting new vinyls in the mail and then imply that one of them was Max's latest?

Who the hell cares about your opinion about file sharing and that 5 trillion people have MP3's on their computer. Could you please post that 100 more times because I don't think that you posted it enough.

Bottom line...shouldn't the artist behind a track or remix be the one to release/debut their own track and not some wannabe internet DJ? Have you ever been around someone that produced a track and seen how their face lights up when it all comes together? Have you ever known someone to be proud about their work and talk about how they can't wait for when it is released? Why take that away from them? So you can look cool to all your internet buddies? Do you not have any friends that are artists? I would assume not. If so then shame on you for being such an ass on this topic. Go tell your friend that you wouldn't give a shit if some kid on the internet acquired their music and released it without permission. Just because someone has a track it does not give them a right to pre-release it.

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Originally posted by Frase Well are you on a mission to change that so called 'trend' then?

no. I have some time to kill and feel like pointing it out.

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Originally posted by Laushinameee Im not pretending many people are going to care. but you should, its apparent that when an artist comes on here its very difficult to find anyone with anything bad to say about them ... again with the mp3 thing, we all know people download mp3, yet when there is an mp3 issue youll not be able to find anyone who does it... Its hypocritical that the moderators always chirp in with 'TA does not support filesharing' when there is a 'hub' which is associated with it for the purposes of sharing files amongst its users... and if you go against the trend you are silenced by suspension & bans.

yea its sad how it works. but i think tranceaddict forums does not want to compromise its place on the web by being associated with filesharing. imagine if tranceaddict forums was a big place to dl illegal mp3s, as well as this community we have. you think it would stay open for long. of course not. thats why, even if the mods do have illegal mp3s, they have to say TA doesnt support filesharing, to keep this place around for people who enjoy it and benefit from it. you just have to live with it.

i know i didn't know about the track. i don't usually know about tracks until they get a big fuss on TA or they show up at juno.


but i really don't see the problem everyone is having with what max did. the guy came out and blatently said he had the new max graham vinyl...and max pointed out the fact that he didn't. if this jackass wanted to dl mp3s and listen to them on his comp...i don't care, but don't sit there and claim to have bought the vinyl and then try and pass it off in a promotional tool he is trying to make...that's just lame.

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Originally posted by hadi ****** yea its sad how it works. but i think tranceaddict forums does not want to compromise its place on the web by being associated with filesharing. imagine if tranceaddict forums was a big place to dl illegal mp3s, as well as this community we have. you think it would stay open for long. of course not. thats why, even if the mods do have illegal mp3s, they have to say TA doesnt support filesharing, to keep this place around for people who enjoy it and benefit from it. you just have to live with it.

well at least you can see where im coming from. I dont know of any 'edm' forum really that doesnt have some sort of file share system (although none of course admit it)

This is why you can see why i find it quite funny that people are running around in a thread started by max graham saying how bad illegal music is when you and I both know a hell of a lot of them will be downloading some right now.

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Originally posted by Floorfiller i know i didn't know about the track. i don't usually know about tracks until they get a big fuss on TA or they show up at juno. but i really don't see the problem everyone is having with what max did. the guy came out and blatently said he had the new max graham vinyl...and max pointed out the fact that he didn't. if this jackass wanted to dl mp3s and listen to them on his comp...i don't care, but don't sit there and claim to have bought the vinyl and then try and pass it off in a promotional tool he is trying to make...that's just lame.

YES!!

if you people would stop bickering youd see I wrote that 2 pages ago|

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