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Originally posted by brian Sounds about right. Not too many more pages left.

half way there

EDM isn't doing so good as it used to be in the past.

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Originally posted by Laushinameee perry o'neil ? crap asot/gdjb 'trance'

ugh.

I think pvd is overated, He only produced the right track at the right time (For an angel) and after that I cannot think of one note worty thing he has done, and he dj's with a laptop that to me is like going to see a live band and they lipsync.

Tiesto is overated, I can't see what the fuss is about his productions, and who the hell needed that adagio for strings remix?

It seems to me though that the top dj's like pvd and tiesto and ferry program their sets, I understand that they have an obligation to play some signature tracks, but does the whole set have to be signature?

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Originally posted by Laushinameee zabiela techincally the best dj out there? no im afraid that you are the one who is talking shit.

lol talk about clueless, have you ever seen him live? By your responses im assuming you haven't so you obviously dont have the slightest idea about what you are saying. Besides with all the shit he's doing its probable that he would fuck up now and then but to say "he can barely stick two records together" or whatever your comment was is just plain retarded. In fact, tell me a set in which hes fucked up a transition more than once if any.
Yeah he might not be the best yet, give him time hes only 25 years old and is already owning every other DJ out there.

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Originally posted by Gunyouken I think pvd is overated, He only produced the right track at the right time (For an angel) and after that I cannot think of one note worty thing he has done, and he dj's with a laptop that to me is like going to see a live band and they lipsync.

u sound like u dont have a clue about how he mixes laptop or not he still spins off the vinyl.

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Originally posted by Laushinameee zabiela techincally the best dj out there? no im afraid that you are the one who is talking shit.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm fine with people disliking DJs just because of personal opinion, but this is just totally incorrect.

Mixing one track into another is something that anybody can do (just like PvD ). Yet doing live mash-ups, looping, scratching, almost spot-on beatmatching, adding effects, etc. while making it sound damn-good is something that takes a lot more skill than what your average DJ has. Zabiela is allowed one or two fuck-ups here and there, because one rarely ever gets the chance to see that happen.

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Originally posted by djtrinity who is a great DJ in my eyes? Jonathon peters....

pfffffffffftt
u can only be from NYC and say such a thing

Reading the well thought-out and substantiated arguments here, I can't help but think:

Honestly, who care what you think?!

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Originally posted by armandzadza Honestly, who care what you think?!

The original poster?

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Originally posted by tribu The original poster?

But why? Here's a model of the thread:

- DJ X sucks
- He doesn't. You suck and your favorite DJ Y sucks!
- DJ Y rules! DJ X and DJ Z suck on the other hand!
- DJ Z is the suckiest. Well, almost, DJ ZZ, sucks even more!

Not a shread of rhyme or reason to substantiate these opinions. Why would one care about them?

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Originally posted by armandzadza But why? Here's a model of the thread: - DJ X sucks - He doesn't. You suck and your favorite DJ Y sucks! - DJ Y rules! DJ X and DJ Z suck on the other hand! - DJ Z is the suckiest. Well, almost, DJ ZZ, sucks even more! Not a shread of rhyme or reason to substantiate these opinions. Why would one care about them?

Dunno, I was just answering your question. For rationalization, youll have to check with the original poster.

Ive tried to keep my comments (or most of them) in this thread intelligent.

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Originally posted by tribu Dunno, I was just answering your question. For rationalization, youll have to check with the original poster. Ive tried to keep my comments (or most of them) in this thread intelligent.

Hey, dude, don't take this the wrong way. I am not trying to attack you personally; rather, I am commenting in general on the substance of the thread (or lack thereof for that matter)

i could've sworn all these DJ's being bashed were like the 'in' thing a couple months ago.

or is it just me?

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Originally posted by Danny Ocean lol talk about clueless, have you ever seen him live? By your responses im assuming you haven't so you obviously dont have the slightest idea about what you are saying. Besides with all the shit he's doing its probable that he would fuck up now and then but to say "he can barely stick two records together" or whatever your comment was is just plain retarded. In fact, tell me a set in which hes fucked up a transition more than once if any. Yeah he might not be the best yet, give him time hes only 25 years old and is already owning every other DJ out there.

ive seen him 'live' plenty of times. And every time it takes him about 5 mixes to actually get into his set. He is obviously another one of these djs who is totally fine with a good set up, but any little problem with the sound and he goes to shit. At creamfields in 2003, far from 'scratching wow man' he was struggling to actually beat match ANY records ALL the way through his set. He cleared the whole tent after timo maas had been pretty good.

Look at his GTDJ mix cd as well no scratching on that and the mixing is fucking atrocious - and thats a studio cd.

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Originally posted by idoru Whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm fine with people disliking DJs just because of personal opinion, but this is just totally incorrect. Mixing one track into another is something that anybody can do (just like PvD ). Yet doing live mash-ups, looping, scratching, almost spot-on beatmatching, adding effects, etc. while making it sound damn-good is something that takes a lot more skill than what your average DJ has. Zabiela is allowed one or two fuck-ups here and there, because one rarely ever gets the chance to see that happen.

see above. Ive seen zabiela a) not even attempting any trickery, and b) fucking up one mix after the other for about an hour.

People are blinded to his actual ability because of his 'wow man crazy tricks'. And because of that you are all fools.

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Originally posted by Gunyouken I think pvd is overated, He only produced the right track at the right time (For an angel) and after that I cannot think of one note worty thing he has done, and he dj's with a laptop that to me is like going to see a live band and they lipsync.

congratulations on being a total idiot.

a) PvD produced for an angel in 1994.

b) he doesnt 'dj with a laptop' - he uses a laptop as a digital record back. He mixes with 2 turntables same as everyone else. If you need to know more about final scratch go to their website.

http://www.finalscratch.com

until you have read and understood how the system works then there isnt much point in you opening your mouth.

cant think of anything else worthwhile that PvD has done? Visions OF Shiva - How Much Can You Take? Avenue? Flaming June? Love Stimulation, the list goes on. He was part of the MFS team who practically 'invented' trance music as you know it today. The thing is, like ive said, they were making it in 1992 when none of you cared, and the sound hasnt moved on since everyone started ripping them off in the mid to late 90's.

Interesting opinions there Laush, well, if thats the way you see it then im sorry for your lack of talent appreciation. Which dosen't really suprise me comming from a PvD fan. Tell me, do you belive Paul Van Dyk is better than James Zabiela when it comes to spinning?

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Originally posted by Danny Ocean Interesting opinions there Laush, well, if thats the way you see it then im sorry for your lack of talent appreciation. Which dosen't really suprise me comming from a PvD fan. Tell me, do you belive Paul Van Dyk is better than James Zabiela when it comes to spinning?

what sort of a stupid question is that? what does 'spinning' mean? If you want to put something positive across about zabiela then go ahead, but if your only defense of him is a negative about some other dj then that is pathetic and irrelevant. Its not my fault if youre an idiot and you need to do this. Just leave the irrelevance alone.

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Originally posted by Laushinameee what does 'spinning' mean?

djing.

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Originally posted by R.j. djing.

no shit really?? !!11

and in turn, how is that defined? Its a stupid irrelevant, undefinable question. And realistically he expects no answer.

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Originally posted by Laushinameee no shit really?? !!11

hah srry. i couldn't resist.

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Originally posted by Danny Ocean Tell me, do you belive Paul Van Dyk is better than James Zabiela when it comes to spinning?

Because Laush refuses to answer unless phrased correctly...

Technically, is Paul van Dyk better than James Zabiela when using decks?

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Originally posted by Laushinameee no shit really?? !!11 and in turn, how is that defined? Its a stupid irrelevant, undefinable question. And realistically he expects no answer.

Don't act like you dont get the question, sure it might be irrelevant to the thread, but undefinable? its simply asking for your opinion on weather you believe you favorite DJ, Paul Van Dyk (and im basing this on posts ive seen where you defend PvD to the end) is better than James Zabiela on the decks, building a set, etc. Obviously you probably have no idea why im asking, but basically its just to see how ignorant you are, among other things.
That's ok though, you don't have to answer, you already did.

sometimes i don't know why i bother,but i thought you would be mature enough to handle a conversation. I guess i was wrong, not only did you prove youre not mature enough (kinda like every other noob in TA), but you also convinced me that you have no fkn clue what you talk about and therefore i should'nt bother wasting my time on a dumbfuck like you. Fair enough?

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Originally posted by Danny Ocean Don't act like you dont get the question, sure it might be irrelevant to the thread, but undefinable? its simply asking for your opinion on weather you believe you favorite DJ, Paul Van Dyk (and im basing this on posts ive seen where you defend PvD to the end) is better than James Zabiela on the decks, building a set, etc. Obviously you probably have no idea why im asking, but basically its just to see how ignorant you are, among other things. That's ok though, you don't have to answer, you already did. sometimes i don't know why i bother,but i thought you would be mature enough to handle a conversation. I guess i was wrong, not only did you prove youre not mature enough (kinda like every other noob in TA), but you also convinced me that you have no fkn clue what you talk about and therefore i should'nt bother wasting my time on a dumbfuck like you. Fair enough?

so if i prefer PvD to zabiela then im ignorant and a dumb fuck? whatever. I'm convinced that you have 'no fuckin clue' either & that youre simply another one of these gimps whos suddenly decided to get into breakbeat because they think its a bit cool. Dont confuse me with some of the other twats who think PvD is 'god' and can do no wrong. But understand that he was around shaping the music scene when zabiela was still only about 10 years old. Dont get taken in by the hype, hes an average dj at best. So what if he tries loads of tricks? Jeff Mills has based his whole career on that, and hes losing more and more respect by the day. Until zabiela can prove himself a good dj in terms of his actual musical sound, rather than in terms of some novelty act, then i have very little time for him.

are you american?

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