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Posted by bluE_Neon on Oct-24-2001 17:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Starfox

If 'FOR AN ANGEL' IS CHEESE, WTF IS 643!?!?!?!?!?

im sorry but i couldn`t resist. don`t worry. there will be a new remix of FAA... and you tell me if it WILL BE CHEESE ALSO!


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Many GReetings,

f0x.

PS: i'll be watching...


ya bro, u tell den wat 643 is? personally i think it is cheese as well...very unsual 2 see u foxx get mad eh? see wat u peeps did! now foxxx is gonna get in2 dis pathetic argument!

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Originally posted by Subfuture
What the hell do you guys know?
Three years ago, you all know squat shit about Tiesto.
When Tiesto started getting popular, you all feckin worshiped him, saying he is the next best thing..blah, blah, blah....

Then, Oakenfold was the joke. Playing all cheesy trance and all that crap. Before that, what was Oakey playing?
For all you people, who are not new to the scene, knows that Oakey has been changing his style of music every few years. Acid house, Drum n Bass, goa trance....Now, he is playing all the cheesy trance, and you calling Tiesto copying Oakenfold, when all along Tiesto was hammering trance??
Get a fookin grip. Oakenfold is moving towards progressive now, then who is the one copying?
Oakey is fuckin smart, he moves where the money is, and all you people are hitting on the wrong djs.

Yes, same tunes are played in a set.
Programming wise it will differ.
Tiesto always keep his mixes tight, thus more energy.
Oakey on the other hand always mixes at the end of each track, creating flow, lesser energy.

Seriously, you kids know shit. Only know how to compare Djs, make sarcastic remarks, making yourself look as if you know a lot when all you know makes you look like a bloody fool.
Pathetic.


ya man i agree with u man...dis thread is getting more harsh by each page, first it was da battle of Tiesto and Oakie, now its PVD vs. Tiesto...u people r pathetic, u complain so much, u dont act like trance addicts, u act as soon fucking clubbers! u dont seem 2 respekt and appreciate trance dat much...its good 2 critizes, but everthing has its boundaries...like who da fuck cares wat tiesto produced or why his set is da same all da time, or if PVD's For An Angel is da best song?? 4 fuck sakes, there's so many quality underground songs dat r so much better, there's so many talented dj's in da world, who aren't undiscovered...Oakie was underground, he raised himself 2 be a famous dj...so wat if he plays old tunes, blablabla...sometimes i think dat Tiesto and PVD is so fucken commercial coz every1 is talking about it all da time, critizing their performances, blablabla...SO WATS DA POINT OF GOING AND SEEING A DJ 4 TIMES AND DEN COME HERE, COMPLAIN LIKE LITTLE BITCHES....most of these people dat i see, r just in da epic/uplifting trance...everytime its da same shit...always complaining about Oakie...it really FUCKEN pisses me off, when PEOPLE dont show respekt 2 some, like Oakie, who has done so much 4 where trance is right now, making it popular in da world, not only him, pioneers such as John Digweed, Carl Cox and even Nick Warren who is travelling all over asian right now! u people show no dignity of respekt and luv 4 trance and u call urselves trance addicts/luvers?


Posted by Kia Kaha on Oct-24-2001 21:22:

Thumbs up

quote:
Originally posted by bluE_Neon


ya bro, u tell den wat 643 is? personally i think it is cheese as well...very unsual 2 see u foxx get mad eh? see wat u peeps did! now foxxx is gonna get in2 dis pathetic argument!



ya man i agree with u man...dis thread is getting more harsh by each page, first it was da battle of Tiesto and Oakie, now its PVD vs. Tiesto...u people r pathetic, u complain so much, u dont act like trance addicts, u act as soon fucking clubbers! u dont seem 2 respekt and appreciate trance dat much...its good 2 critizes, but everthing has its boundaries...like who da fuck cares wat tiesto produced or why his set is da same all da time, or if PVD's For An Angel is da best song?? 4 fuck sakes, there's so many quality underground songs dat r so much better, there's so many talented dj's in da world, who aren't undiscovered...Oakie was underground, he raised himself 2 be a famous dj...so wat if he plays old tunes, blablabla...sometimes i think dat Tiesto and PVD is so fucken commercial coz every1 is talking about it all da time, critizing their performances, blablabla...SO WATS DA POINT OF GOING AND SEEING A DJ 4 TIMES AND DEN COME HERE, COMPLAIN LIKE LITTLE BITCHES....most of these people dat i see, r just in da epic/uplifting trance...everytime its da same shit...always complaining about Oakie...it really FUCKEN pisses me off, when PEOPLE dont show respekt 2 some, like Oakie, who has done so much 4 where trance is right now, making it popular in da world, not only him, pioneers such as John Digweed, Carl Cox and even Nick Warren who is travelling all over asian right now! u people show no dignity of respekt and luv 4 trance and u call urselves trance addicts/luvers?


Yeah good one ... tell you what, since we are all such commercialized complaining little bitches, why don't you and your pal subfuture go and start a new forum together, and have highly intelligent conversations with each other about how inferior everyone else on TA is and how they don't know shit about trance, not like you two fuckin Messiahs! That is of course, if he can be bothered staring at the screen for long enough to make sense of your try hard irritating ghetto spelling

Who plays good trance and who doesn't is pretty much 95% of what gets talked about in here, I can't see your point man. In case you haven't noticed we all love trance here, we talk about it, compare notes on it, live it, love it, breathe it, that's the whole purpose of the board. As for saying that someone is a complaining little bitch because they love a trance DJ enough to spend a massive amount of their time and money going to see them multiple times, and coming on here and talk about the parts of their set they liked and didn't like, well that's just bollocks.

And to compare Nick Warren to Oakenfold ... christ! I have limitless respect for Oakenfold and Coxy, and even Digweed although his music isn't really my scene ... but I can't see how Nick Warren travelling all over Asia exactly makes him a pioneer ... except maybe a pioneer of making so-called trance sets that are about as exciting to listen to as watching dog shit dry


Posted by Miss Proximus on Oct-24-2001 21:28:

stay away from my buddy there...if you wanna fight, take it outside and go kick a lantarn for all we care...

and read before you reply please?

This thread isn't mature anymore, if people can't handle the fact that PVD is God....oh sorry..I mean...if people can't handle the fact that not everyone has the same preference in music and dj's...than this thread doesn't deserve to be continued...

*closed*

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o shit...I can't close a thread...I'm not the mod!! /me punches herself


whatever


Posted by Subfuture on Oct-24-2001 21:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Kia Kaha

Yeah good one ... tell you what, since we are all such commercialized complaining little bitches, why don't you and your pal subfuture go and start a new forum together, and have highly intelligent conversations with each other about how inferior everyone else on TA is and how they don't know shit about trance, not like you two fuckin Messiahs!


Kia Kaha: If everyone here loves trance, then you all should be celebrating it, instead of whinning like a bunch of 5-year old kids, complaining about trance djs you once adored, smearing your own favourite genre. And comparing Djs? WTF?? What's next? Comparing each other's dicks?

Intelligent? Who ever mentioned shit about being intelligent?
Jeeze...you people have a way to put words into others' mouth.
Messiahs? What the fuck?
Seriously, what kind of mentality do you have go misinterpreting my points and twist it all the way round like this?

If you are a journalist, I'll whip your sorry ass.
Think before you post, and post what you know and not post what you think you know.
Is it that difficult?

Get a grip.


Posted by Paul Wilson on Oct-24-2001 21:42:

Threads like this are worse than DJ James M spamming the place. Please close teh thing for fuck sake!


Posted by Twilogoddess on Oct-24-2001 23:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Kia Kaha


Yeah good one ... tell you what, since we are all such commercialized complaining little bitches, why don't you and your pal subfuture go and start a new forum together, and have highly intelligent conversations with each other about how inferior everyone else on TA is and how they don't know shit about trance, not like you two fuckin Messiahs! That is of course, if he can be bothered staring at the screen for long enough to make sense of your try hard irritating ghetto spelling

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAA. This thread has gotten WAY outta hand but If WE ALL agreed there would be no need for a forum.

I will not respond to childish ppl whose arguements consist of personal attacks. If u can't discuss your opinions in a mature manner take ur immature ass to another forum. There is a scarcity of ppl here who put forth intelligent debates.


Posted by ABTsportsline on Oct-24-2001 23:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Twilogoddess
I will not respond to childish ppl whose arguements consist of personal attacks.


heheh, this is where I step in....

c'mon guys! Sub, Paul, TG.... this is where it get REALLY fun, when we all have excuses to act like 5 year olds and get involved in some old-fashioned mud-slinging arguements....

Its all in fun and games, all for the healthy debate. These are a discussion forums... Like everyone else has said, if everyone agreed on everything all the time this place would be hella boring!

Now, chew on this my interesting Judeo-Christian Tranceaddicts!:
DJ Jean and DJ Sonique could whoop Oakey, Tiesto, AND PvD's butts all in one sitting!

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......AND begin!


Posted by Bayou Boy on Oct-25-2001 00:00:

Tiesto by far blows oakie away. I mean fuck....listen to his live sets...he fuckin rocks. The only tracks that I find he repeats alot is the quest and ubik. I havn't had the privilege to see tiesto yet, but from listening to his live sets I can tell he creates massive energy and lets not forget his producing skill!!!


Posted by PSi on Oct-25-2001 05:23:

Jester

lol i say we just forget about tiesto and PVD and go chill to some deep house like lee burridge....hes my god :P


Posted by PSi on Oct-25-2001 05:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Kia Kaha


And to compare Nick Warren to Oakenfold ... christ! I have limitless respect for Oakenfold and Coxy, and even Digweed although his music isn't really my scene ... but I can't see how Nick Warren travelling all over Asia exactly makes him a pioneer ... except maybe a pioneer of making so-called trance sets that are about as exciting to listen to as watching dog shit dry



Your a fool....Nick Warren has more skill than Oakenfold/Tiesto and Pvd


Posted by Kia Kaha on Oct-25-2001 10:55:



Jeesus ... I definitely had too many beers last night! I want to say I totally apologize to you blue_neon and subfuture for going off like that, I know I should try not to start flame wars and attack individual people, that was way out of line of me (And no I'm not a journalist btw)

What I should have said was, I like comparing different DJs, and their strengths and their weaknesses, and whether they played a good set on whatever night, I don't think it's being immature or ignorant or disrespectful to trance music to do that. I just love listening to and talking about trance in general, naturally DJ's are going to come into it. And naturally some DJ's are going to play more tracks that move me than some others. It's not like all DJ's are created equal, otherwise every bedroom DJ would be charging $40 to go and see them spin wouldn't they.

So I would kind of like to try and rescue this thread from back out of the gutter now, and hear why you think it is so childish of us to compare DJ's.


Posted by bluE_Neon on Oct-25-2001 17:12:

Confused

Da thing is dat i was a bit pissed of yesterday, but i didn't shout when i was saying dis post...it just really pissed me off, about dis thread, all dis people sayin shit i dont care wat a dj does or produces, its good 2 critize dj's BUT UP 2 A CERTAIN POINT! i knew da first time when i saw dis thread dats its gonna be an argument over dj's and nobody does dat...every1 likes their own style of trance...i luv every gender of trance there is right now did i ever come here 2 Tranceaddict, make a thread like dis about dj's and start a war? i RESPEKT ne dj there dat dj's, remixes, produces trance..so wat if its cheese and all da bullshit..its still trance right? my point is dat we should appreciate our luv 4 da musik we luv, not critize it all da time, just think about it? im sorry 4 people calling dem little bitches, but fuck dis thread sure does look like dat

Kia Kaha when i read ur post about 2minutes ago about ur comparison with Oakie and Nick Warren, i got really pissed off, considering da fact dat he's my favourite dj...first of all i wasn't comparing him 2 Oakie, i was saying dat he's travelling around da world right now and giving da oppurtunity 2 millions 2 listen 2 trance but den i read ur last post, so everything is Oki man

im not gonna reply 2 dis thread ne more, coz its useless, listening 2 people such as TG, i not gonna say nething here, coz we all know how she is but i will check it out, and it wud be better 2 close it!
l8tz TA's


Posted by twilochik on Oct-25-2001 21:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Miss Proximus
stay away from my buddy there...if you wanna fight, take it outside and go kick a lantarn for all we care...

and read before you reply please?

This thread isn't mature anymore, if people can't handle the fact that PVD is God....oh sorry..I mean...if people can't handle the fact that not everyone has the same preference in music and dj's...than this thread doesn't deserve to be continued...

*closed*

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o shit...I can't close a thread...I'm not the mod!! /me punches herself


whatever


LMAO You da best Proxi! lol


Posted by hansolo on Oct-25-2001 23:05:

hahaha, my djs better than your dj!! and so is my dad

Even if its good to argue and bullshit, it takes away from what i get on this site and that is a connection to people who love trance like i do.

But unfortunately i see alot of people say stupid shit that i dont associate with people who have seen the light in trance music.

Tiesto plays amazing energy filled music to audiences of energy filled happy people. The euphoric feeling he must get im sure will keep him doing whatever it is necessary to bring that out from the crowd. Im sure he chooses not to look at the people crying in the corners about how played out his tunes are etc. rather he looks at the person who for 3-4 hours is at peace with everything around them.
Also im sure he does not give a fuck what Twilogoddess and the rest or her army think, but then maybe he should cause it appears more and more like twilogoddess is the queen of trance, and she must be obeyed (just kidding, but you dont paint a nice happy picture in these forums, but then it again its only little characters on my screen and i have no idea what you are like in person).

Even oakenfold i could say good things for. I may not like where he has gone with his music, but im sure he does not really care. The thing is for him, he has been dj before most of you were an itch in papa's pants. So after a while, you get to wanna try new things, and some people arent gonna be happy about, but i respect his decision. There are always up and comers and Twilogoddess (im sorry for singleing you out) i hope you find them soon, so that you can go back to just enjoying your night out with lovely trance and people.


Posted by bluE_Neon on Oct-26-2001 16:51:

Jester

quote:
Originally posted by Miss Proximus

*closed*

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o shit...I can't close a thread...I'm not the mod!! /me punches herself


whatever


hehehehehehehe Josta xoxoxo


Posted by DJ Sarah H on Oct-26-2001 17:34:



The reason this thread is still open is because it generated a lot of good comments and arguements for and against.
something that has been lacking for a while in the forums,
Twilogoddess may have started this thread as a bit of a joke but in doing so we have had some really great comments from ppl and of course some that are not so great.

Personal attacks are not what tranceaddict is about ! but good arguement and debate is always welcomed, ppl are never going to agree with each other all the time, FACT of life, but here we can for the most part argue and debate why we like or dislike certain DJ's, Genres, apspect's of the music we love in a good way.

Telling someone to "fuck off" cos they dont like the same DJ you do is not good arguement, however if u can explain why u prefer your DJ over someone else's then that's fine, it's stimulating and provides good arguement.
NO ONE here is always right and NO ONE here is always wrong, we are all individuals with individual tastes and its good to see some intelligent and well thought answers and posts on this thread.

if that trend prevails in this thread then it stays open, if it becomes a thread of personal attacks then it gets closed.
I don't want to close this thread cos of the intelligent posts that some ppl have made, but i will if personal attacks continue.

Peace


Posted by Twilogoddess on Oct-26-2001 20:55:

Thumbs down

quote:
Originally posted by MC Mlee Hee
Your one annoying dumb little person who thinks you're better than everyone else.

Isn't it ironic when you call yourself a Music Critique but mention tracks that are cheesy as hell in your sig like that Scot Project junk.



This is completely uncalled for!

WickedNeo I totally agree w/u


Posted by TranceFusion on Oct-26-2001 21:18:

Hello!

It was a funny pic...sorry this post is probably delayed but Yeah I thought it was funny and I hope Ti�sto doesn't really "become" Oakie....I like the way he is now..on top of things, and "new"


Posted by fastmp3 on Oct-26-2001 21:21:

There are some people here who don't deserve to be here discussing with us . In one of my previous posts i said Tiesto for me is the best DJ/Producer of the year , however i didn't like his latest sets because he keeps on playing the same damn old 99 tracks . And guess what , i've been flamed for saying this ...


Posted by QuickStep on Oct-26-2001 21:41:

My favorite DJ is...................................wait this thread is done with.

It was very refreshing to see that everyone having a view on things instead of some of the useless threads lately. I think we are over the annoyance of flame wars and post.

I myself have only heard Tiesto once and will try to see him again in Nov in DC. Oakie, well that's another story. I think he can make some good tracks, but as a DJ he has lost his touch. I think even now he can pull himsefl out of the ashes and probably mix a great set. But I don't think people want to hear that from him anymore. Alot of people that pay to see Oakie just pay to see him play, crappy set or not. Either way, if I had a chance to see Oakie again I would go but not pay an outragous amount of money.

Tiesto, now this gets tricky. In Nov we get the choice of seeing all of PVD or all of Tiesto. After this and hearing views from peeps here, we are staying for all of PVD @ Radiate, then the rest of Tiesto @ Glow. Either way I win, since I get to see both in one night.

Night all.

Payce


Posted by Eugene on Oct-26-2001 21:56:

quote:
Originally posted by QuickStep
In Nov we get the choice of seeing all of PVD or all of Tiesto. After this and hearing views from peeps here, we are staying for all of PVD @ Radiate, then the rest of Tiesto @ Glow. Either way I win, since I get to see both in one night.

This is what I'm gonna do!
I'm gonna see PvD first (the whole set), and then go to the Insomnia club and catch Tiesto. I'll only miss like an hour of Tiesto's set, he'll still have 4 more to go.
So yes, I hope to catch both PvD and Tiesto on one night!
TA's, how jealous are you? Nov. 24 is DC night, baby...


Posted by TranceFusion on Oct-26-2001 22:01:

Hello!

<----Beware the whip of death AGHHHHHHHH.....yeah Eugene I hope you have fun, if you can try to take some pics. I'll probably be sitting here doing nothing heh.....
peace


Posted by Dj O'Callaghan on Oct-26-2001 22:14:

You Lucky bugger Eugene seeing PVD and Tiesto on the same night


Posted by Paul Wilson on Oct-26-2001 22:25:

I've sewen both Tiesto and PvD in the same day so I'm not jealous!


Posted by Dj O'Callaghan on Oct-26-2001 22:27:

Same here well sort of the same day saw Tiesto at 8 in the night then saw PVD at 2 in the morning 6 hours later.


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