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Originally posted by Ory No, read what it says. Music Discussion. I'm talking about music, I say most trance today blows. That is my opinion. My opinion is also that your taste in music sucks.

Yes.



Love you too.

The man loves HOUSE, alright? Progressive House.

He's a TA-member who probably HAS a better taste in music, SO WHAT? His quest is to persuade McProg-fans and probably other Ta to the constantly "progressing" side of EDM which doesn't even have a single thing to do with Trance... For him, NO other style is better than Progressive House and it will rule the intire EDM-scene in the future

OK, get it?

But people like Ory didn't took in account that other people may find it offensive if their style of music's is constantly being bashed That probably makes the proghouse thing the worst thing in the world, calling itself "inventive" and "groundbreaking" al the time. And the evolution of Proghouse will probably be the same as with PsyTrance: It will grow into some minimalistic version of it on which only the BIGGEST PROGWHORES can dance. Just untill there's no music left in it and the Trance-scene shall rule!:P

With me: I like Uplifting Trance, but also the (often more inventive) IDM/Drill'nBass. And I don't need to bash all the straight beats, because I know that it's just ANOTHER STYLE which (for me) CAN be just as entertaining as the other!

yap yap yap.

For the last time, prog house isn't the only genre I listen to. Infact it's pretty low on my list right now.

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Originally posted by Nou I mean from a musical knowledge standpoint... the fact that techno is based around the percussion more than anything else makes it a simpler to produce. Thats what I ment on a lower level (not to bring it down any, Im just saying its simpler!)

have you ever tried producing techno?
Judging from your posts I DONT THINK SO MISTER! LOL

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Originally posted by varun Dave Clarke is a pompous,self-righteous and arrogant cockwank. No doubt his skills are good, but the dude has serious attitude problems.

judging by the quotes, very true!!! i'll add: he's a cumswapping slutlicker misinterpreting the ridiculously small number of people who listen to techno as being an elite and underground genre of music. well, what can i say? "hallelujah, brotha!".

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Originally posted by RebeL9 have you ever tried producing techno? Judging from your posts I DONT THINK SO MISTER! LOL

well it is obvious that you like techno and of course, as an avid supporter, you try to justify different aspects of it that other people might be questioning. but why bother trying to change the mind and tastes of other people?

and no, your taste isn't better or superior to that of other people, you just make this statement to make yourself feel better.

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Originally posted by Nou yea... i have... and the stuff that goes into it is a whole lot easier then producing anything that relies on a melody or any sort of traditional music structure (besides the overall structure that techno follows). Seeing that I suck at music theory, then yea, techno has been alot easier for me, not saying im good at it, it does take skill, but im saying, someone can go in and make a decent bangin techno track with alot less experience than pretty much any other EDM genre.

And you've obviously never heard any tracks by the artists I mentioned. Detroit Techno =! Banging/Minimal shit you hear everywhere these days.

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Originally posted by Radagast And you've obviously never heard any tracks by the artists I mentioned. Detroit Techno =! Banging/Minimal shit you hear everywhere these days.

Not everywhere . I'd like to have more of that Banging/Minimal shit...

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Originally posted by Nou blah blah blah...

Naru...

Before anyone says techno is easier to make than any other genre, I want you to listen to at least one of these tracks first:

Mad Mike - Jupiter Jazz
Rhythim Is Rhythim - Icon
Brian Transeau - Relativity (Carl Craig's Urban Affair Dub)

Funny how 1 of the people you mention is a trance pioneer.

Techno is easiy to make, every track I heard on Leibing's GDJB set sounded like an intro of a trance tune looped.

techno deinfetley isnt the easiest form of EDM to produce. You have to keep it dj friendly, so first off its gotta be atleast 5 minutes long and this is the hard bit...as techno is based around the percusion this is how it can easily become boring, unlike in trance you could introduce some melodies but with techno as its pounding beats and bass youve gotta think of 5minutes of tricks, builds, fills and changes to keep the dancefloor happy.

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Originally posted by Durrrtysouth Funny how 1 of the people you mention is a trance pioneer.

he was talking about who remixed it

BT is more than just a trance pioneer.

tricks in techno?
You gotta be kidding.
You mean like muting the kick at the end of an 8 bar section?
or do you mean adding reverb to a high hat halfway through?
Common man, techno is very simple for people who know how to use a sampler. I think people who like techno give themselves too much credit. End of story. You guys probably dont know the difference between a minor and a major chord.

i dont make techno, i make trance. i gto an a+ for my music gcse im predicted a distinction for my college course and i know a minor from a major and i can tell some frequencies by ear aswell

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Originally posted by Durrrtysouth Funny how 1 of the people you mention is a trance pioneer. Techno is easiy to make, every track I heard on Leibing's GDJB set sounded like an intro of a trance tune looped.

That ain't liebing fool. And it's Carl Craig's remix. He did BT a favor on that one.

can any of the anti techno-fags here prove me how techno can be easy. Let me hear one of your techno productions since it's so damn easy everyone can produce a techno tune. So bring it on kids!

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Originally posted by Nou im not anti-techno, im anti-elitism. techno, then progressive trance, seem to have the most elitist people in it... almost as bad as those little emo/indy rock avant garde crying little teenage pussies that sit around and listen to shitty rock in their rooms and cry.

ahahaha agree

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Originally posted by Nou im not anti-techno, im anti-elitism. techno, then progressive trance, seem to have the most elitist people in it... almost as bad as those little emo/indy rock avant garde crying little teenage pussies that sit around and listen to shitty rock in their rooms and cry.

I'm sorry, but no, you are not intelligent and witty for throwing together profanity and random slander. All it does is evidence an inability to put together a valid argument.

And progressive trance after techno? What a riot! I would put progressive (house) and jungle far higher than progressive trance, though still not up to par with the insular Detroit leadership.

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Originally posted by Nou Progressive house seems to just be sorta independent as far as I have noticed, they tend to stick to themselves... progressive trance people are just mad all the time because they know that its still trance in the end.

Haha, yeah, I'll agree with you there. Pretty decent description of me.

Though if you snooped around the forums two years ago you would see the full brunt of Progressive elitism. It was a daily war for months, until progheads simply gave up bashing and left for more "intelligent" places that "understood the progressive frame of mind".

You mistake me. I'm not trying to prove the superiority of techno. I'm trying to disprove the inferiority of techno. You just won't listen.

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Originally posted by Jake Conlon techno definetly isnt the easiest form of EDM to produce. You have to keep it dj friendly, so first off its gotta be atleast 5 minutes long and this is the hard bit...as techno is based around the percusion this is how it can easily become boring, unlike in trance you could introduce some melodies but with techno as its pounding beats and bass youve gotta think of 5minutes of tricks, builds, fills and changes to keep the dancefloor happy.

Actually, I'd say this would be the techno DJ's job. For me, the good Techno tracks doesn't have much in the form of buildups, breaks, blips or other emotional tricks. I'm in no way putting down the production of techno but for the point is that the entertainment is squarly put in the DJ's lap. Techno tracks are more like tools, for the DJ to create the soundscape he feels is suitable at any given moment. Take alook at Dave Clarke or Carl Cox if you want examples. Unlike trance where the track makes most of the job for the DJ. That's why some of my DJ friends went techno once trance started going downhill in 1995. To have more to do as a DJ while spinning.

Now this thread had an interesting topic but it went south pretty damn quick. I'm not suprised, it happes quite a lot. Good qoutes is perhaps hard to find since in many interviews, the same standard questions are asked over and over. If I only had my old EDM magazines left maybe I could contribute with something actually worthwhile hehe. I'll get home and check...

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Originally posted by Nou Sorry, I just really really hate emo kids. I would put techno fans as the most rabid of the bunch. Jungle is pretty bad, but then again most of them want to be gangsters... so its pretty inline with the hip hop kids and I guess Im just used to them. Progressive house seems to just be sorta independent as far as I have noticed, they tend to stick to themselves... progressive trance people are just mad all the time because they know that its still trance in the end. I dont know, I quit this thread... its not gunna go anywhere, and Im gunna end up lookin like an ass, and other people are gunna end up lookin like asses too... so well Im just gunna leave it at that. Im gunna still keep listening to good solid trance, wether its progressive, hard, vocal, whatever... as long as its good.

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