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I wrote in this thread somewhere in the first 2 pages, but I wanna give some more input.

As for trance being hard to produce, it's not. But GOOD trance is hard to produce.

Shit techno is even easier to produce. But GOOD techno is harder.

Due to the fact that techno is much harder-sounding and more drum oriented, producers have to be a bit more innovative and experimental in order to create well sounding productions.

This is all from personal experience, because I have tried to produce both.

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Originally posted by mto I wrote in this thread somewhere in the first 2 pages, but I wanna give some more input. As for trance being hard to produce, it's not. But GOOD trance is hard to produce. Shit techno is even easier to produce. But GOOD techno is harder. Due to the fact that techno is much harder and more drum oriented, producers have to be a bit more innovative and experimental in order to create well sounding productions. This is all from personal experience, because I have tried to produce both.

i dunno how many times ive said that in different threads, but no1 listens.

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Originally posted by Ory You don't know how many kids around here write trance. And guess what? It comes out sounding exactly like your Armin van Buuren, your Above & Beyond and your Robert Nickson. Oh, I'll give trance production a shot, even though I can't put my SOUL in it. I have enough ideas for music...

smart ass ah?

we dont need trance producers like you.

you had better go and write teckno, it's much harder to write,

so give it your best shot, good luck son

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Originally posted by mr.anderson we dont need trance producers like you.

Oh really? I'd probably be alot more innovative than you beloved ASOT producers. But it's not very hard to be better than them, now is it?

Stop talking and walk the walk, if you can do it.

make a track that is on par with theses "ASOT" producers.

Anyone who thinks the crap on ASOT is well-produced needs to be shot.

no one has said it is, but when you can produce better than that that is when you can slate.

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Originally posted by Ory Anyone who thinks the crap on ASOT is well-produced needs to be shot.

so, you are trying to say you could do better? hah

you are starting to repeat yourself,u'r off ur head.
no more kiddies chatter,
u bore me
dont wanna talk to u anymore

holly shit. do you guys have nothing better to do with your days than argue wether or not ory aka "all talk" can produce on par with ASOT (which in my opinion is sub par anyways..... but its only an OPINION)

first point: WHO THE FUCK CARES.... we like trance, he doesn't his loss

Secont point: why do people always make these inane threads that always turn into prog elitists vs techno elitists vs trance lovers.... is it like you people need assurance that it is ok to still love listning to trance???? cause if you do i give my blessing and htat should be good enough

its this elitist attitude that has ruined so many forums over the net. dont trash this one. if you want to act like an asshole, take it over to trance.nu, and ruin their forums more.... dont bring it here.

Well my journey with edm started 6 or 7 years ago it started out with atb stuff then darude then eventually things began to propagate and i got to love tiesto (when he was tiesto) i was so mad about his sets i got addicted to his livesets and because of that music i started considering djing maybe ...i got also to like armin so much but before i got to know him so well iio - rapture (john creamer and stephane k remix) hit me so hard i love this tune till this day ..then i got to listen to some of digweeds sets and i really like how unpredictable the music is ..and how there is so much greater room for innovation in that music ..it's more ellaborative and that was what trance lacked at that time progressive house was more appealing ..and since the year rapture was released i lost track of any trance music and i really hated it and what made me hate it more was paul van dyk .... i heard a liveset from the man and i decided it's never gonna be the same ...till recently i got into an argument with a trance fan at college ..i was like "Trance is dead man u still listening to that shit" he replies "Armin is alive" am like wtf are u talking about and i listen to a recent asot ...I reconsidered my thoughts ...Maybe no genre is bad but it's the flow .. the past years were house music time nourishment till now and it's going on ..but trance is still alive with some people and armin is definately one of them ..Not many are available and thats why many ppl hated trance it's not what it used to be
n.b i need some help getting back !! this is my first post since many years ne help is acknowleged ..am staring to dig back my trance mix tapes (it's good to get the good from all)

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Originally posted by Abhay good to see u find it funny, I never said his new style was better. It just appeals to the masses, so a lot more ppl listen to him. that PLUS the fact he's #1 DJ according to the ppl who know wat DJmag is...

Yea I understand what you mean.

I'm watching a Tiesto video from like 5 years ago right now and it's making me miss his old style

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Originally posted by Dj Zak Well my journey with edm started 6 or 7 years ago it started out with atb stuff then darude then eventually things began to propagate and i got to love tiesto (when he was tiesto) i was so mad about his sets i got addicted to his livesets and because of that music i started considering djing maybe ...i got also to like armin so much but before i got to know him so well iio - rapture (john creamer and stephane k remix) hit me so hard i love this tune till this day ..then i got to listen to some of digweeds sets and i really like how unpredictable the music is ..and how there is so much greater room for innovation in that music ..it's more ellaborative and that was what trance lacked at that time progressive house was more appealing ..and since the year rapture was released i lost track of any trance music and i really hated it and what made me hate it more was paul van dyk .... i heard a liveset from the man and i decided it's never gonna be the same ...till recently i got into an argument with a trance fan at college ..i was like "Trance is dead man u still listening to that shit" he replies "Armin is alive" am like wtf are u talking about and i listen to a recent asot ...I reconsidered my thoughts ...Maybe no genre is bad but it's the flow .. the past years were house music time nourishment till now and it's going on ..but trance is still alive with some people and armin is definately one of them ..Not many are available and thats why many ppl hated trance it's not what it used to be n.b i need some help getting back !! this is my first post since many years ne help is acknowleged ..am staring to dig back my trance mix tapes (it's good to get the good from all)

pleased to hear that!....Trance has been around for ages, and obviously people strive for a new stuff, try to diversify their tastes, to expand their tastes...it's the right thing to do, I have done that. I listen to all sorts of EDM music, and not just EDM, but rock,indie as well. I like proggy, house and tekno, but Trance has always been my number one, it just appeals to me most.....trance is good,if it makes me feel good, why should I stop listening to it? If simply to conform to peer pressure? I think not then...

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Originally posted by Abhay he's #1 DJ according to the ppl who know wat DJmag is

You're saying that all of us voted for Ti�sto?

60,000 people voted in the poll so i reckon if we got enough people to vote we could get a dj into the top 100, but thats not likely to happen seen as the last major forum poll we had only got 500 votes

Sounds and tastes evolve. I used to like strictly funky house eg. Bad Boy Bill, Richard Humpty Vision. Then I turned to more commercial style trance and then to trance and now I'm more into house.

Well, since Ory is so "elitist" I think we might have the best EDM producer in our era...Too bad he's too good to put his "knowledge" on future songs that will "revolutionize" electronic music.

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Originally posted by Zharen Now that's sig material right there.

If you were wondering what the train looks like, here's a pic



(yes its just an excuse to post this pic)

like you needed and excuse to post that pic LOL

i think its because lately, a lot of trance has the "been there, done that" feeling....that occurs with every music style. If that happens you see the style evolving. Thats why progressive, techno and breaks are even house are getting more involved into trance which causes trance to evolve into new subgenres. Its just the usual stuff that happens with every genre.

armin just said trance is alive.

Take That!

i don't think its dying but i do think its maturing. which is completely different.

the genre over all seems like it has been lookin around for a new sound since the golden days

Armin also said he dislikes alot of the music he played on ASOT. Oh, and trance isn't maturing. It's been at a complete standstill for years now, until Markus Schulz' sound came along. Now it has stopped evolving again.

Of course its matured over the years.

Compare Grace - Not Over Yet with Armin & M.I.K.E - Pound

The way it works is that if you listen to trance for long enough you will start to hear the same thing redone over and over again.

That's why new genres are so appealing to people and why their musical tastes "evolve". You listen to a genre for long enough and you start to become tired with it or want to seak out something new. For me I found trance was starting to lack so I've gone more into house and hard trance as opposed to the uplifting and more progressive sound I was into before.

It makes sence to move on and experience new genres.

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