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Originally posted by Ory What does that have to do with anything? Why am I not allowed to analyze music?

cause you get insulting and disrespecfull to other people in the progress, you dumb fuck.

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Originally posted by RickyM Oh for the love of all that is fucking holy, when will you get it into your head that people listen to a genre because they like the sound of it. So fuck if people like 'McProg'? Why do you feel so strongly about it that you have to upload post after post of your dull, boring shit hate campaign against a genre of music? Get a laugh you sad wee bastard.

Yes, because the internet = real life.

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Originally posted by Phortastic cause you get insulting and disrespecfull to other people in the progress, you dumb fuck.

Isn't that what you're doing right now? Not complaining or anything, but don't you think we're all fucking hypocrites?

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Originally posted by Zombie0915 This reminds me of the star trek episode where the vulcans challenged the crew of deep space nine to a baseball game. The captain of the vulcan team was quite conceited, and thought that vulcans were superior to humans in every way, and that only they were worthy of operating a starship. As any good star trek dork would know, the vulcans are better than humans at everything, they are smarter, stronger, faster, more inventive. A vulcan child would think of the most fantastic human inventions as toys. Vulcans dont use bias in making any of their decisions, they choose the best course of action by following advanced logic, whereas humans rely on instinct, and feelings in addition to a lower level logic system. So the Vulcan baseball team challenged the deep space nine crew, and absolutely kicked their asses, the DS9 team scored maybe once or twice. After the baseball game outside of the holosuite, the vulcan team was acting proud(without showing their emotions of course), hoping that the humans would be sad and agree that they were inferior. But it didn't happen, the DS9 crew was laughing, they had fun playing baseball. They were proud of what they did together, despite the fact that the vulcans kicked their asses. The vulcans went home, with their mission to piss off the DS9 crew and make them feel inferior unnacomplished. The captain of the vulcan team had that angry jealous look in his eye, and got even more pissed off when a human noticed, so he threw a tantrum and left. This ASOT vs elite stuff kind of reminds me of vulcans vs the crew of DS9. The ASOT side being the humans, and the vulcans symbolising the elites. You "elites" can be as superior as you want, your music might be more inventive, it might be more original, it might pwn in comparison to the trance that comes out today. But humans just dont give a fuck about those things, they have feelings and biases, they like having fun. Win all the contests, make all the comparisons that you want, the kids are still gonna go out and have a good time, and its not gonna be with your "superior" music because all we ever hear from you elites is complaining. Humans have done many amazing things that the vulcans said were impossible. It doesnt matter if something is forward thinking or not, lets just shut up, go out, and have some fun.

fantastic post, and a great comparison
im a little biased as a star trek fan though
but its a good point and a great comparison

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Originally posted by Ory Isn't that what you're doing right now? Not complaining or anything, but don't you think we're all fucking hypocrites?

dude dont you get it, i act against you like you act against everyone here on this board.
i do act with respect against all other normal people here on this board.

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Originally posted by Ory Yes, because the internet = real life.

Where did I say it was, numbnuts? I was just drawing to others attention that you are a moany fuck

always nice to hear that someone else appreciates star trek



I prefer the klingon way of thinking myself



kapla!

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Originally posted by Zombie0915 This reminds me of the star trek episode where the vulcans challenged the crew of deep space nine to a baseball game. The captain of the vulcan team was quite conceited, and thought that vulcans were superior to humans in every way, and that only they were worthy of operating a starship. As any good star trek dork would know, the vulcans are better than humans at everything, they are smarter, stronger, faster, more inventive. A vulcan child would think of the most fantastic human inventions as toys. Vulcans dont use bias in making any of their decisions, they choose the best course of action by following advanced logic, whereas humans rely on instinct, and feelings in addition to a lower level logic system. So the Vulcan baseball team challenged the deep space nine crew, and absolutely kicked their asses, the DS9 team scored maybe once or twice. After the baseball game outside of the holosuite, the vulcan team was acting proud(without showing their emotions of course), hoping that the humans would be sad and agree that they were inferior. But it didn't happen, the DS9 crew was laughing, they had fun playing baseball. They were proud of what they did together, despite the fact that the vulcans kicked their asses. The vulcans went home, with their mission to piss off the DS9 crew and make them feel inferior unnacomplished. The captain of the vulcan team had that angry jealous look in his eye, and got even more pissed off when a human noticed, so he threw a tantrum and left. This ASOT vs elite stuff kind of reminds me of vulcans vs the crew of DS9. The ASOT side being the humans, and the vulcans symbolising the elites. You "elites" can be as superior as you want, your music might be more inventive, it might be more original, it might pwn in comparison to the trance that comes out today. But humans just dont give a fuck about those things, they have feelings and biases, they like having fun. Win all the contests, make all the comparisons that you want, the kids are still gonna go out and have a good time, and its not gonna be with your "superior" music because all we ever hear from you elites is complaining. Humans have done many amazing things that the vulcans said were impossible. It doesnt matter if something is forward thinking or not, lets just shut up, go out, and have some fun.

I agree, fantastic post!

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Originally posted by Zombie0915 I prefer the klingon way of thinking myself kapla!

The borg > *

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Originally posted by Ory It's not underground (not that Digweed is either). People worship this stuff, it's pathetic. Markus Schulz Alliance? Helloooo? Anyway, you can't really compare McProg/dutch crap to other music. Music is never 100% original, far from, but like I said, McProg is an extreme case.

So strong fan base= pop? Hmmm. I'm not saying it's underground, but it doesn't have to be to be good. And you still haven't given a good reason why it's so unoriginal. It uses catchy melodies, so it's unoriginal? Is that as good as you can do?

And to whatever tit used a Star Trek analogy, well done, we look like right fucking geeks now...

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J And to whatever tit used a Star Trek analogy, well done, we look like right fucking geeks now...

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J And to whatever tit used a Star Trek analogy, well done, we look like right fucking geeks now...

ah so star trek fan = geek
nice going bro, u are as biased as Ory is to mcprog

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Originally posted by Phortastic ah so star trek fan = geek nice going bro, u are as biased as Ory is to mcprog

I was joking you monkey. It's pretty geekish to be arguing about fucking McProg with a Swedish guy in the middle of the afternoon.

I think when most people go out and listen to music at a club, they go with friends to have a good time. A lot of people don't even know one song from the next and could care less what the tracklisting is, but so what? That should be the whole point of any form of music, as it is entertainment. Some people like highly intellectual movies, while others like Ben Stiller movies, but the point is,like music, it's a subjective thing. If you really have that much of a problem with McProg that you devote all your time to bashing it, rather discussing music that you actually like, and if you are so insistant that what you personally like is so much better than anything else anyone listens to, the following genres also probably have boards you should spend some time whining on (most are formulaic too and many sell more albums):

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I was joking you monkey. It's pretty geekish to be arguing about fucking McProg with a Swedish guy in the middle of the afternoon.

ah it didnt seem like a joke to me
my bad

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J So strong fan base= pop? Hmmm. I'm not saying it's underground, but it doesn't have to be to be good. And you still haven't given a good reason why it's so unoriginal. It uses catchy melodies, so it's unoriginal? Is that as good as you can do? And to whatever tit used a Star Trek analogy, well done, we look like right fucking geeks now...

It's a new sound, yes. And already after, what, a year, it's completely run out of ideas. Who was it that started it again? James Holden? His early tracks would've been enough, this is just pushing it.

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Originally posted by Ory It's a new sound, yes. And already after, what, a year, it's completely run out of ideas. Who was it that started it again? James Holden? His early tracks would've been enough, this is just pushing it.

My point is, how many genres don't run out of ideas after a year or so? If a genre does start to change, these days it just gets relabelled and turned into another sub-genre. Name me some styles of EDM currently popular that are still kicking new ideas out.

uh yea, if u like it, listen to it. big deal

I'm not talking about other genres, I'm talking about how extremely uninventive McProg is. Or, the DJs that spin it, rather. They oughtta mix it up alittle, and people wouldn't have such big a problem with all the crap that gets released. They're squeezing every last penny out of the genre, and that's what's killing it.

Let out your inner geek, you know you have it

(or else you wouldn't have so many posts)

it feels good, wheeeeeeeeeeeeeee



seriosly though, there is soooooooooo much good music out there, more than what all of the TA's put together could possibly mention, more than one person could hear. We only have so much time to hear whats out there, so lets all go see what we can find then come back here and share it with each other.



There is a certain beauty in a sound that doesnt change, while it might bore one person, it is entrancing another. There is nothing wrong with finding a sound and playing the hell out of it because it works on a crowd full of people. If someone prefers variety, the best thing to do is listen to a variety of different musicians instead of expecting just one person to give it to you.\



kapla!

Star Trek hijack!

First you aren't really a Trekker unless you can name an episode (and encounter at Far point doesn't count)

Second Star Trek rules cause the episode "The Inner Light" is the best written episode of any tv show in the history of television...

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Originally posted by Subey Star Trek hijack! First you aren't really a Trekker unless you can name an episode (and encounter at Far point doesn't count) Second Star Trek rules cause the episode "The Inner Light" is the best written episode of any tv show in the history of television...

its Farpoint in 1 word
its not a 'far' point u know

btw 100% agree with the inner light!
amazing script and ofcourse an amazing Patrick stewart like always.

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Originally posted by Phortastic btw 100% agree with the inner light! amazing script and ofcourse an amazing Patrick stewart like always.

+1

I can't resist posting that Inner Light was fcking amazing episode.

Plus Chain Of Command, Redemption II, Darmok, The Measure Of A Man, The Best Of Both Worlds, Tapestry, Frame Of Mind....




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