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for once me n trancer-x are in general agreeance.
theyre trying to pull this in australia too. its bollocks. id like to know where any govt gets the authority to have such an oppressive system in place.
ive always liked to think your average aussie was a tad brighter than your average yank, however recent polls indicating widespread support for the ID cards here makes me question that assumption *shakes head*
Under the guise of a speedier trip you get more rfid. Wait until it's implantable when people lose their wallet or have it stolen.
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| CREDIT KEY MAY END SUBWAY SWIPE GRIPE By JEREMY OLSHAN Tue Jan 31, 6:00 AM ET Straphangers may never have to "please swipe again." This spring some subway riders will get to toss out their MetroCards and zip through turnstiles with a wave of their credit card or key chain. The MTA is teaming up with MasterCard and Citigroup to put "smart card" readers at turnstiles on the 4, 5 and 6 lines in Manhattan, as well as two key outerborough hubs. During a six-month trial paid for by the two companies, Citibank will offer certain customers debit/credit cards and matching key-chain fobs embedded with special chips that can be read by radio frequencies instead of magnetic stripes. If the trial is successful, the MTA would like to expand the technology - or one similar to it - across the transit system, shaving precious seconds off commuting time. MasterCard's PayPass technology works like a regular credit or debit card in terms of billing - but there is no need to sign for purchases under $25. It is mostly in Big Apple drugstores and fast-food restaurants now, but the MTA hopes it will make turnstiles into express lanes. "Transit is the perfect application for this technology, given the speed it can get customers through the turnstile," said Cathleen Conforti, product manager for PayPass. The trial will only be for specially selected customers on the Lexington Avenue line between 125th Street and Bowling Green, as well as Jay Street/Borough Hall in Brooklyn and 23rd Street/Ely Avenue in Long Island City. Riders will still get every sixth ride free but will not be able to make free transfers to buses, which will not be equipped with the new readers. The MTA is considering replacing the often frustrating magnetic-stripe MetroCards with a quicker, more reliable technology, and will use the results of the trial to determine how best to proceed, transit officials said. But the MetroCard isn't about to go the way of the token just yet. "This way we get to learn about, test and see how our customers respond to the new technology at almost no cost to us," said NYC Transit spokesman Paul Fleuranges. Smart cards are already used by transit systems in Chicago, Washington, D.C., and San Francisco. Though radio-frequency identification technology (RFID) has been around for years, transit officials said they wanted to make sure all the kinks were worked out before trusting it to 7 million daily commutes. "People will be happy to give up the swipe," said Beverly Dolinsky, director of the NYC Transit Riders Council. "We've been calling for this for a long time. The greatest benefit will be not on the subways but on buses, which really get slowed down by waiting for the cards to run through." The MTA has also toyed with the idea of a smart card that could be used for purchases other than rides on buses and subways, Fleuranges said. Next month, the Port Authority will begin testing different smart-card readers on the PATH train as part of a joint program with the MTA and NJ Transit. That test - which doesn't use PayPass technology - could one day lead to a universal transit card. |
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| Originally posted by ogvh5150 Wait until it's implantable |
I'm not as worried about ID Cards as RFIDs and biometric data being store on my license. Are these things really necessary for anything?
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| Originally posted by Trancer-X When it's implantable they won't have to worry about passing new laws like this one: Actually reported by faux news: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,181382,00.html |
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| "I think there's enough checks and balances and enough guidelines have been set up by the courts that we will follow," said Michael Weinman, legal liaison for the Columbus, Ohio, police department. |
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| Originally posted by tribu I'm not as worried about ID Cards as RFIDs and biometric data being store on my license. Are these things really necessary for anything? |
I understand what it could be used for, but what I'm saying is, does the government really need all that to do it's job?
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| Originally posted by tribu I understand what it could be used for, but what I'm saying is, does the government really need all that to do it's job? |
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| Originally posted by Trancer-X Of course not!!! Why do you think that we're so pissed off? F**k those fascists, especially when they drape themselves in my country's flag! |
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| Originally posted by ogvh5150 You mean this one? |
A bit OT:
A recently ate my first curry chicken. Boy was that bird spicy. I must have sweated so much that I could have went into heat stroke. You shoulda seen me, I always get that "Why dis' white boy walkin' in here?" look when I walk into a caribbean store ordering coco bread and a beef patty or kingfish with beans and rice with a side of plantains.
Also I must be the only guy at my job that can understand my old jamaican co-worker. People ask "wha he say"? and I tell them "WTF don't you understand english"? lol
Mmmhhh, for some reason I thought this would also be for residents...I guess not...now, would this only be used within the US, or also for citizens that leave the country? And the chip you guys are talking about, it would just record in a DB everytime you travel?
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| Originally posted by DarkFall01 Mmmhhh, for some reason I thought this would also be for residents...I guess not...now, would this only be used within the US, or also for citizens that leave the country? And the chip you guys are talking about, it would just record in a DB everytime you travel? |
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| Originally posted by DarkFall01 Mmmhhh, for some reason I thought this would also be for residents...I guess not...now, would this only be used within the US, or also for citizens that leave the country? And the chip you guys are talking about, it would just record in a DB everytime you travel? |
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| Originally posted by ogvh5150 Someone had to start the CFR which is a sister to the RIIA. |
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| In 1910 Colonel House wrote a novel called Philip Dru: Administrator, in which the title character became the sinister dictator of America. Published anonymously under the guise of fiction, the book paralleled real events of the time concerning House's own influential and tactical role in shaping U.S. policies. House was an important figure in securing Wilson's nomination in 1912 and helped him set up his administration after he was elected. House was even provided living quarters within the White House during that administration. He was pro-British and collectivist, and influenced Wilson's decision to enter WWI. Although he held no official position in the government, he often represented the Wilson administration to European governments before, during, and after the war. |
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| Philip Dru: Administrator by House, Edward Mandell About this title: First published (anonymously) in 1912, this novel describes for the overthrow of the U.S. government in favor of a socialist regime. House was an advisor to Presdient Wilson. http://www.alibris.com/search/searc...YboLNw.PEK_Edsw |
more on Col. House
http://unitedelite.net/house.html
This a case of "if it can abused it WILL be abused"
Still think its safe to be `tagged & bagged? Now think what could be done with RFID chipped cards that already have been read/cracked at 10 METRES away>> hint whats the number 1 crime on the rise that affects everybody.
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News like that is no accident.
A Cincinnati video surveillance company CityWatcher.com now requires employees to use Verichip human implantable microchips to enter a secure data centre.
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I bet even while they say you don`t need a chip now its just a matter of time before its mandated to work there.
Every lock has a key.
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| Originally posted by ogvh5150 Given a reason (such as lack of internal security) any country can implement this just the same way mobile phone technology is easily adaptable when you travel abroad. All there is needed is a pre-meditated scripted attack (al-queda, kkk, hamas, christian patriots, right-to-lifers, tree-huggers, insert name of group to bash here) for this to be generally accepted in the interests of either national or global security. Besides we are all in databases. The chip will just localize you on a global map for example. |
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Re: Re: Great idea
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| Originally posted by Trancer-X It's saddening to think about how naive people really are. |
Re: Re: Re: Great idea
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| Originally posted by tiesto14 It,s sad how pompous and arrogant you are. You hate everything about America . You think both parties have gone down the tubes, the schools are brainwashing us, the corporations are evil, all human institutions are to be distrusted, etc., etc. For you, everything is a sham, so you sneer at everything. you bum everybody out, painting a hopeless picture of a takeover that only you and your theorists can see...& offer absolutely no course of action to remedy any of the imagined ills. |
Thought about the odds and changed them a bit since you can't have 1:1 odds.
So Iran has 2:1 and Al Qeada has 5:2.
Employees from the UN are not allowed to play.
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| Originally posted by ogvh5150 Google Search for Brain Machine Interface Look for anything mentioning DARPA founders of DARPAnet predecessor to the internet. |
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| Implantable chip to establish new nerve connections in brain area that controls movement Devices/Technology Published: Tuesday, 24-Oct-2006 Researchers at the University of Washington (UW) are working on an implantable electronic chip that may help establish new nerve connections in the part of the brain that controls movement. Their most recent study, to be published in the Nov. 2, 2006, edition of Nature, showed such a device can induce brain changes in monkeys lasting more than a week. Strengthening of weak connections through this mechanism may have potential in the rehabilitation of patients with brain injuries, stroke, or paralysis. The authors of study, titled "Long-Term Motor Cortex Plasticity Induced by an Electronic Neural Implant," were Dr. Andrew Jackson, senior research fellow in physiology and biophysics, Dr. Jaideep Mavoori, who recently earned a Ph.D. in electrical engineering from the UW, and Dr. Eberhard Fetz, professor of physiology and biophysics. For many years Fetz and his colleagues have studied how the brains of monkeys control their limb muscles. When awake, the brain continuously governs the body's voluntary movements. This is largely done through the activity of nerve cells in the part of the brain called the motor cortex. These nerve cells, or neurons, send signals down to the spinal cord to control the contraction of certain muscles, like those in the arms and legs. The possibility that these neural signals can be recorded directly and used to operate a computer or to control mechanical devices outside of the body has been driving the rapidly expanding field of brain-computer interfaces, often abbreviated BCI. The recent Nature study suggests that the brain's nerve signals can be harnessed to create changes within itself. The researchers tested a miniature, self-contained device with a tiny computer chip. The devices were placed on top of the heads of monkeys who were free to carry out their usual behaviors, including sleep. Called a Neurochip, the brain-computer interface was developed by Mavoori for his doctoral thesis. "The Neurochip records the activity of motor cortex cells," Fetz explained, "It can convert this activity into a stimulus that can be sent back to the brain, spinal cord, or muscle, and thereby set up an artificial connection that operates continuously during normal behavior. This recurrent brain-computer interface creates an artificial motor pathway that the brain may learn to use to compensate for impaired pathways." Jackson found that, when the brain-computer interface continuously connects neighboring sites in the motor cortex, it produces long-lasting changes. Namely, the movements evoked from the recording site changed to resemble those evoked from the stimulation site. The researchers said that a likely explanation for these changes is the strengthening of pathways within the cortex from the recording to the stimulation site. This strengthening may have been produced by the continuous synchronization of activity at the two sites, generated by the recurrent brain-computer interface. Timing is critical for creating these connections, the researchers said. The conditioning effect occurs only if the delay between the recorded activity and the stimulation is brief enough. The changes are produced in a day of continuous conditioning with the recurrent brain-computer interface, but last for many days after the circuit is turned off. "This unusually long-lasting plasticity may be related to the fact that the conditioning is associated with normal behavior," Fetz said. |
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