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Posted by DJVirgen on Mar-01-2005 06:32:

quote:
Originally posted by gerrycueto
Don't have to get all anal about it. I just hate being compared to Fruityloops synths, for various reasons I won't get into right now.

Since when did I brag about my extensive knowledge of music theory? DJ Virgen was just pointing out that he heard an out-of-tune note and I analysed it to find out what he meant. ooh I guess I shouldn't post anything related to music theory, since that would mean I'm bragging.

Yeah thanks... I'll send this to DJ Sammy... he'll have truckloads of fun playing it.


People seemed to really like you when you were making every change requested... the second you stand up for yourself, either musically or professionally, everyone gets all upset and thinks you're a snob. I get it all the time =)

The 3xosc synth from FL-Studio is a piece of trash (in my opinion) so I can understand being offended when someone thinks you used one of its presets. It can do some cool things but 99.9% of the time it'll sound like crap.

Your response to my out-of-tune comment was rather deep, and there are probably some readers who don't understand it so they start calling names. I've learned to filter out people who start calling names because they aren't doing anything but ruining music, so try not to take it personally.

As far as the "hard" sine wave synth going on, I would drop some of the higher freqs just a little bit to help keep ears from bursting blood vessels. On a synth like this, you're going to want to take a very close look at a spectrum analyzer to find any particular notes that are peaking out the frequency so you can drop that particular frequency down a notch or two. High-resonance synths such as this one can be tough to master but, like you said, that's up to the label right?

The beginning still has an "out of tune" or "wrong note" feel to it, but I'm getting used to it now... I think it was just the initial first few listens where it felt wrong.

This would make a great track to end a looooooong set so people would head home with a positive glow. I like the update much better despite the key changes. Again, good job, very positive glowing production. Looking forward to more from you.


Posted by State of Matter on Mar-01-2005 06:51:



Difference between holding your ground and being obnoxious. Saying "c'mon man, are you even a producer?" is unnecessary, as stated.

Try this next time. "Oh ok, the sine wave. Nah its not 3xOsc, it's [whatever]. I disagree with your suggestion."

Most of the time, if people think you sound like a snob, you are, but are too snobbish to admit it.

About the track:

Agree that its very close to alt f4, not necessarily a bad thing. Nice melodies and ideas. Nothing new or exciting but it does what it needs to do, nice track. Good luck with it.


Posted by madj0ben on Mar-01-2005 06:58:

a great track, in deed. congrats! you did an excellent job!


Posted by djrenco on Mar-01-2005 14:40:

hey man! sounds really good! can i play it in my mixes? it's quality stuff.. i like the melodies

-Renco


Posted by gerrycueto on Mar-01-2005 18:09:

I'm only kidding when I make comments like "come on man"... Sorry if I came off the wrong way, but if I really wanted to be serious about it, I would have put a Smilie beside with an angry face instead of a goofy, light one. I only got serious at the second post when he took it wrong, and I do hate being compared to fruity synths (sorry). I guess you learn something new everyday, or maybe I just suck at trying to be funny.

As for the bursting of blood vessels in the sines. I've heard this track everywhere including the car and I don't hear the sines being too loud. Maybe my ears are being subjective, but like I said before sines are usually the hardest thing to fit in the mastering correctly. Anybody who uses them Whiteroom, PPK, Markus Schulz, ect on some speakers/headphones they sound really loud that you're like (agh!!) on others you're like "turn it up dude"... but most speakers they sound like they were intended.

I'll definately keep all the advice I get, but so far the theory one, the remove key chain one, and the sine's volume seem kind of picky, taste-varying to me, so I'm not really in a rush to change that.


Posted by EtherealSL on Mar-01-2005 18:57:

quote:
Originally posted by gerrycueto
I'm only kidding when I make comments like "come on man"... Sorry if I came off the wrong way,


you have an interesting sense of humor... i never knew slamming people when they try to provide some criticism was the new generation of humor... if that's the case, then my entire reply was me kidding, too... funny, right???


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quote:
Originally posted by gerrycueto
and I do hate being compared to fruity synths (sorry).


why? is fruity some sort of program for amatures and noobs, now?? Just because someone uses reason or cubase or whatever doesn't make autmatically make anybody a better producer (many big names use flp for their productions). Your sinewave synth can be easily be recreated with a simple fruity synth (that doesn't mean your synth is bad, but that's the first thing i thought of when i heard it) ONCE AGAIN, you understood exactly what i meant, so what's the problem in that?


quote:
Originally posted by gerrycueto or maybe I just suck at trying to be funny.


agreed.


Posted by Manvel on Mar-01-2005 19:07:

quote:
Originally posted by EtherealSL
unnecessary but okay... sorry my vocab isn't up to par with your genius synthesizer abilities. My review wasn't detailed because I'd think that maybe 8 pages of review would be enough for you (actually scale that doen to 2-3 since every post on this thread is followed by one from you to bump). Even so, 2-3 pages worth of criticism is far more than this curded milk deserves (key changes... c'mon). I honestly expected far more from someone who likes to brag about his "extensive" knowledge of music theory. You have more than one sine wave in this song so I figured I would describe in nonprofessional language which one it is and you definately figured which one it is, and i obviously did get my point across.

but okay, if you don't want reviews from this "flp noob" i would be glad not to waste my time, i was throwin in my 2 cents, i'm glad to see that you appreciated it. good luck on signing "floating" (or is it "floater" ??), i'm sure dj sammy will throw down this dancefloor thriller at es paradis next summer for the 2 people that will be there.




hahaha...Dj Sammy...When I think of Alt+f4 I think of Dj Sammy. When I think of this song I think of alt + f4. Hmmm...yup, this is just another cheeser . I agree with Ethereal.


Posted by gerrycueto on Mar-01-2005 19:18:

cheese is good sometimes! :P I like cheese once in a while... and make it too once in a while... whatever... of course this is not a dancefloor rocker, but it's a nice cheeser to relax to... like David said could work well for one of the first tracks to play in a DJ set.


Posted by kopi_luwak on Mar-01-2005 19:22:

quote:
Originally posted by dannyc
ok gerry heres a test for you to do to notice the lack of energy. stand in the middle of the floor in your bedroom over your set of decks, raise both arms in the air preferably whilst looking into a mirror, have your track blasting out, imagine your tiesto looking out over 30,000 clubbers all their arms are raised also. 4mins in drum roll begining they're beginning to go wild cheering. 4min 10secs bang kicks back in = anti climax, they thought they were gonna have an orgasm but you were just teasing them. disapointment is evident on all faces. hehe

just a technique i use to see if my tracks have enough energy.
loop bars between 4.05 and 4.20mins until you get what we mean.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA A TEASER! LOL ......


Posted by Manvel on Mar-01-2005 22:18:

Aren't you the Gerry who was bagging on "Cheese Tracks" a couple months ago? I remember reading a thread with you saying how "Motorcycle - As The Rush Comes" and "Oceanlab - Satellite" were cheese tracks. You started a big arguement on it...now that someone calls your track a cheese track you start saying cheese is good...you're such a hypocrite.


Posted by gerrycueto on Mar-01-2005 22:39:

Aw isn't that cute. You're arguing someone else's argument, and you actually keep tabs on other posts I make in other forums, making sure I don't get into trouble? Are you the TA big daddy? You gonna give me a time out?

Yeah and you're the one that misread... Yes they are cheese because they sound commercial, but they're great tunes at the same time... tracks like Nathan Fake - Outhouse wouldn't be cheese, but still be great tunes because there's no way that track would have a popular appeal. There's also cheese that sucks, but that's not cheese. It's just crap. :P

Next time read the further replies before you go whipsnapping with your red face and start name calling.


Posted by staticblue on Mar-02-2005 08:55:

you guys should go back to your sequencers.


Posted by Massive84 on Mar-02-2005 09:59:

quote:
Originally posted by staticblue
you guys should go back to your sequencers.


yes topic has been big enough.

should be closed.


Posted by gerrycueto on Mar-02-2005 10:59:

I agree. Is there anyway I can close this thread or only a mod can do it?

Thanks everyone for all your feedback, criticism, chats, comments, and for all the fun, but I think everything that needs to be said about this track has been said already.

To the next tune

Peace


Posted by d-miurge on Mar-02-2005 14:30:

this track is decent but nothing more, that's a good amateur track.


Posted by kopi_luwak on Mar-02-2005 16:21:

quote:
Originally posted by gerrycueto
I agree. Is there anyway I can close this thread or only a mod can do it?

Thanks everyone for all your feedback, criticism, chats, comments, and for all the fun, but I think everything that needs to be said about this track has been said already.

To the next tune

Peace



Gerry,
Go to your main post, then below at the right of *quote* appears Edith/Delete, click there, will appear you an option to delete all your board .
Kopi =o.


Posted by globalgirl on Mar-02-2005 17:08:

good track


Posted by kopi_luwak on Mar-02-2005 17:10:

quote:
Originally posted by globalgirl
good track

Kopi thinks this has been the most detailed review ever .
Kopi =o.


Posted by globalgirl on Mar-02-2005 17:13:

lol,
True....I was actually trying to send him a PM, but I hit the wrong button and posted the message to him, so I just edited it with a simple "good track"


Posted by kopi_luwak on Mar-02-2005 17:19:

quote:
Originally posted by globalgirl
lol,
True....I was actually trying to send him a PM, but I hit the wrong button and posted the message to him, so I just edited it with a simple "good track"

Is okay, you are blonde, we understand dont worry :P.
Kopi =o.


Posted by DJ Dinz on Mar-02-2005 17:22:

U steal a lot of Idea!!! Alt f4 lead, Above & beyond satellite "Teet!"

Nice Solid Sound! *envy you *
You are very Creative... but agree with some lack of climax..

Love it!

Cheers!


Posted by Mike_Foyle on Mar-03-2005 14:25:

i quite like this, really happy and uplifting, although very cheesey as stated, but good cheese can be great... im enjoying this. its a shame this thread turned into a battle... but oh well, at least i wasnt invovled in it this time

nice work, almost a christmassy feel!

Mike


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