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Originally posted by Orbax bhahaa...pwnd

I had no choice...

enjoy it while it lasts, after a 3 or 4 years the effects will get shit and you will have to ditch them because they wont be worth it!

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Originally posted by Ste enjoy it while it lasts, after a 3 or 4 years the effects will get shit and you will have to ditch them because they wont be worth it!

im just about there... not like it used to be.. nothings quite like the first time either. Pills have also lost quality. I remember 1 would last me 5 - 6 hours about 4 or 5 years ago.. now if i party its usually a 3 - 4 pill night.

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Originally posted by eulerfx I don't know why they call him the father of x, since it was first sythesized and patented by a German pharmaceutical company in 1914. I do agree that Shulgin's work and life in general are quite fascinating. He's got peytone growing in his yard and the DEA can't do nothin!

Because X was all but forgotten as a bunk drug when the story goes like, a student of his suggested he bring X back out and start studying it, and he did and then it was brought to the gov'ts attention, etc...

Yeah, had I known your body builds up resitance to it so fast, I'd planned my first couple of rolls a lot more. I never get the extreme happiness of first timers any more, but rather just feel good about myself. Also tend to just wanna chill to music rather than move around like a fucking monkey. To me E's become rather boring. Not in the sense that I dont enjoy doing it anymore (cuz hell its fun), but I know pretty much exactly what to exepct, and with comedowns and suicide tuesdays, it sometimes isnt worth it.

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Originally posted by Ste enjoy it while it lasts, after a 3 or 4 years the effects will get shit and you will have to ditch them because they wont be worth it!

Varies from person to person, 6 years still going strong, but then I am a naturally very happy person

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Originally posted by kr00t0n Varies from person to person, 6 years still going strong, but then I am a naturally very happy person

yes but how many do you take a night?

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Originally posted by Clovis86 omg you should roll to Nick Warren...lol And Rob...you dont like Guinness...get the fuck out of my MSN list

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Originally posted by dj_mdma yes but how many do you take a night?

true true, but then they work as well as they used to, more is just required.

It's not like I get worse comedowns (as I don't get em at all ) or that I dont get as mullered as I used to, hell, last year I was more mullered than back in 99/00

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Originally posted by eulerfx I don't know why they call him the father of x, since it was first sythesized and patented by a German pharmaceutical company in 1914. I do agree that Shulgin's work and life in general are quite fascinating. He's got peytone growing in his yard and the DEA can't do nothin!

He recieved special treatment because the government would use him in court to pin defendants in big federal drug cases. They then raided his lab when he decided to publish his books.

He's one of the reasons among many that I study science.

has anybody seen that documentary hosted by dan rather called "Ecstacy Rising". Very very interesting, and i believe its available for downloading somewhere. i forgot, its been maybe a year.

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Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk:: has anybody seen that documentary hosted by dan rather called "Ecstacy Rising". Very very interesting, and i believe its available for downloading somewhere. i forgot, its been maybe a year.

Yep I got it & knew that shit mentioned in the documentary for years. I did alot of reaserch before trying it years ago.

Yeah its a great documentary. Very educational!

Can watch it at http://www.pot-tv.net/archive/shows...howse-2610.html

i learned that the government a lot of times, extremely exaggerates something to scare people off, and the repeating messages, the propaganda. one interesting fact was that one year in the 90's, an estimated 20,000 people died in NYC. out of those 20,000, 40 had MDMA in their systems. out of that 40, 20 deaths were related to the MDMA. out of that 20, 9 died directly because of the MDMA (bad reaction/allergic). these are rough statistics i remember from the series.

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Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk:: i learned that the government a lot of times, extremely exaggerates something to scare people off, and the repeating messages, the propaganda. one interesting fact was that one year in the 90's, an estimated 20,000 people died in NYC. out of those 20,000, 40 had MDMA in their systems. out of that 40, 20 deaths were related to the MDMA. out of that 20, 9 died directly because of the MDMA (bad reaction/allergic). these are rough statistics i remember from the series.

the govnt is afraid that stuff like x, & weed will lead to other drug use, hence wont legalize it...

speaking of "ecstasy rising" has anyone ever seen that documentary called "small town ecstasy" it aired on HBO a while ago.. that was kind of cool.

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Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk:: does anybody else have any first time stories??

a friends apartment took gold kangaroos, was a very memorable experiance. Everyone there is very into electronic and we had a computer full of a lot of awesome tunes. I was the only first timer so i was well taken care of. I can't really describe the experiance better than that, anyone who has had an amazing rolling experiance knows how it is.

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Originally posted by Atari Addict anyone who has had an amazing rolling experiance knows how it is.

yep
i know how it is


my 1st time:

Dj Tiesto- in a waterpark in Aguadilla, Puerto Rico

chicks in bikinis, me in a bathing suit and sandals, and yeah- good times

x is bad for j00


x done this year = 6 times

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Originally posted by LinX speaking of "ecstasy rising" has anyone ever seen that documentary called "small town ecstasy" it aired on HBO a while ago.. that was kind of cool.

Small Town Ecstasy made me cry. i couldn't believe how fucked up that family was. the dad was completely irresponsible and oblivious, giving X to his kids like that. and the youngest one was like 12 years old wasn't he?

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Originally posted by l�cid Small Town Ecstasy made me cry. i couldn't believe how fucked up that family was. the dad was completely irresponsible and oblivious, giving X to his kids like that. and the youngest one was like 12 years old wasn't he?

Yeah, that show was really messed up. I think the boy was 13.

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Originally posted by dj_mdma MDMA does not biodegrade or break down over time. The only reason a pill may "lose its kick" is if you leave it for a long time in a moist environment, which will make the binders of the pill (what holds everything together) break apart, and you will be left with a "wet" pill (think about how coke becomes crystallised in a moist environment, the opposite occurs for pills)

the one i have is powder in a clear capsule, and it's been kept wrapped in foil and inside a prescription bottle for the last few years. i am not sure exactly how old it is. it still looks dry though so i'm guessing it's fine.

regardless, i'll still probably pick up a testing kit before i do it.

I'll be a voluntary testing kit!

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Originally posted by UWM I'll be a voluntary testing kit!

omgz oh noooooooes i flushed it into lake michigan!!

Wouldn't be the first narcotics to find the same watery grave!

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