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Originally posted by mercure marriage doesn't strip a woman of her identity, history or heritage, nor does it make her an adjunct of her husband or a piece of property. If I did have children I wouldn't feel strongly about whose name they had; it could alternate, or maybe we could arm-wrestle for it...

I share the same view, though I do realize that one day I will marry - just not anytime soon - my future wife can keep her name without any problem. I'm all for the arm-wrestling idea to figure out how the kids end up .

If I get married again I will be keeping my last name

...yes i would...and i did...

Just because I changed my last name doesn't change anything about my family or where I've come from....and it doesn't mean he "owns" me
(although he might like to think so.....

haha...no really, just kidding...)

We've started a new life together...and will one day have our own family together...with the same last name...

....i dunno..maybe i'm just old school...but that was my choice

(and andrea.....i'm sure we could come up with some last name that's worse than yours!!)

I would take the guy's name if it was easier to pronounce than mine

[borat] I had a wife, but she died. So now I look for vaGEEN. [/borat]

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Originally posted by bass drive hmm sounds fishy, any source for this? I don't think marriage started as a western practice either

It's in a sociology text book from a class i took un 3rd year undergrad, there's an enture chapter on it, next time i go to my parents i can dig up the source for you if you are really interested in learning more- it's actually pretty interesting.The chapter was extremely interesting in that it talked about how the damily dynamic was historically not a nuturing unit, children dressed as mini-adults and were treated as such, there wasn't a lot of doting and such. If you contrast this w/ native culture, the ppl were more affectionate. the functioned as tribes rather than families, they didn't care about paternity b/c the whole group raised all the tribe's children and native didn't think about things in terms of ownership of property and land.

aaaah........ university sociology classes. A completely non-biased, apolitical way to learn about society.....


bahahahahahhahaha

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Originally posted by Jayx1 aaaah........ university sociology classes. A completely non-biased, apolitical way to learn about society..... bahahahahahhahaha

so what's the better way to learn about the past outside of university sociology and history classes?

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Originally posted by charmscars so what's the better way to learn about the past outside of university sociology and history classes?

don't you know Tara...

...to go on message boards and push your ideologies on others, put down their education, intelligence and background and see how they react. If they react harshly, you have learned a lesson. If they don't react try again saying the same bullshit a different way...


Isn't that the perfect sociology experiement?

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Originally posted by charmscars It's in a sociology text book from a class i took un 3rd year undergrad, there's an enture chapter on it, next time i go to my parents i can dig up the source for you if you are really interested in learning more- it's actually pretty interesting.The chapter was extremely interesting in that it talked about how the damily dynamic was historically not a nuturing unit, children dressed as mini-adults and were treated as such, there wasn't a lot of doting and such. If you contrast this w/ native culture, the ppl were more affectionate. the functioned as tribes rather than families, they didn't care about paternity b/c the whole group raised all the tribe's children and native didn't think about things in terms of ownership of property and land.

ok I see
so the comparison wss with Native American culture.
anyways, no need to dig up stuff, I take your word on it

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Originally posted by charmscars so what's the better way to learn about the past outside of university sociology and history classes?

Balanced research with multiple sources instead of one prof's point of view or agenda set by the faculty.

I dont mean to be so critical about this but every single one of my sociology courses was hardcore left wing biased.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Balanced research with multiple sources instead of one prof's point of view or agenda set by the faculty. I dont mean to be so critical about this but every single one of my sociology courses was hardcore left wing biased.

Those are YOUR sociology courses and YOUR experineces- can you entertain the notion that maybe my experiences and information learned differ? I took a variety of history and sociology courses that dealt with this period of time because it was an interest to me, although some of the materials were text books, most of the materials were primary texts. If anything, the materials were based predominantly on the western view of the experience, b/c europeans could read and write english at that time. It's a cultural fact that europeans raised their children in patriarchal family units and had a strong sense of property, whereas aboriginals cared little about paternity and property and raised children as tribe. This is documented by europeans themselves.


I try very hard to keep an open mind about your posts, although I may not agree with some of your opinions, I don't try to belittle your education or knowledge base. Perhaps I am being naive but I would expect that same in return from you.

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Originally posted by charmscars I try very hard to keep an open mind about your posts, although I may not agree with some of your opinions, I don't try to belittle your education or knowledge base. Perhaps I am being naive but I would expect that same in return from you.

I wasnt trying to belittle your education at all. I'm Sorry if it came off like that. I was more or less belittling the education system as a whole of which we are both apart of. I don't question your wisdomI just question the way classes are taught in certain courses at school. Again, sorry if you thought it was a personal attack because it wasnt.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 I wasnt trying to belittle your education at all. I'm Sorry if it came off like that. I was more or less belittling the education system ...

Busted again


Now how are you going to get a girl to marry you some day if you keep this up

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Originally posted by b4k-oz Busted again Now how are you going to get a girl to marry you some day if you keep this up

naaah it was more like a misunderstanding. If i had really meant to hurt her feelings i wouldnt have been apologizing.


PS: tranceaddict is not where i go looking for women LOL

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Originally posted by Jayx1 naaah it was more like a misunderstanding. If i had really meant to hurt her feelings i wouldnt have been apologizing. PS: tranceaddict is not where i go looking for women LOL

LOL...I didn't think TA is where anyone would look for them either (most of the girls I've met are spoken for anyway)...but seeing as you mentioned that, it makes me wonder why you thought that now

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Originally posted by Jayx1 I wasnt trying to belittle your education at all. I'm Sorry if it came off like that. I was more or less belittling the education system as a whole of which we are both apart of. I don't question your wisdomI just question the way classes are taught in certain courses at school. Again, sorry if you thought it was a personal attack because it wasnt.

that's fair

fucking Chuck Norris.

I would have changed my name already, but we're waiting on the citizenship paperwork to come thru first. Then I'll be Caroline Jack. Niall and I have alread been choosing names with which to torture our kids with. Like Jack Jack. Or Jeremiah Jack. Josephine Jack. LOL!

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Originally posted by StereoPrincess hee hee hee. men. dood, if she wants to keep her name she will.

Honestly? In the NICEST way, dont mean this in a bad way...
She wont want to keep her surname. Not because i wont let her,
but because she will want to do that for me.

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Originally posted by TheVrk Honestly? In the NICEST way, dont mean this in a bad way... She wont want to keep her surname. Not because i wont let her, but because she will want to do that for me.

makes sense. only b/c ppl w/ similar world views tend to hook up. The same way he will look to find a partner that agrees w/ changing their surname upon marriage, I a question I asked, it was just something that was congruent withwill find a partner who would never in a million years ask that of me. From the time that I started dating, I've never dated anyone who would have expected me to take their last name, and this wasn't the rest of their opinions about life etc.

Hell... I'd take my girlfriend's name if we ever got married... nothing wrong with that. Or maybe toss a coin for it or something. Truly, it doesn't matter to me at all. Certainly, I wouldn't expect her to take my last name unless she wanted to, but really, I'd rather be rid of it. My father was such a jackass... his last name can die.

As for kids, I don't plan on having any. Maybe if I did, I'd just name them #1, #2, #3, etc and put enough money away in the bank to let them pick when they're old enough.

I think the most shocking thing in this post is how many people here hate their parents

Who cares.
According to Canadian Stats, half of you will be divorced anyways. Taking the last name of your divorced EX husband is what you should worry about.

Maybe it's just me, but I find that my Last name seems to mesh well with pretty much ANY woman's name, so I doubt there'd be a problem taking my name. It came close to happening @ one point.

But yeah, It'd have to be something that myself and the wife-to-be would have to decide. If you love someone, you make it work, simple as that. Concessions have to be made sometimes.

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