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Originally posted by starsearcher I say that all the time and it's true...they are too nice and the fact of the matter is they have to be tough, everyone does...such is life it's called survival...i tell that to many of my too nice friends all the time...if you're too nice to people eventually someone will step all over you and that's a fact. There is DEFINITELY such a thing as TOO NICE! and at the end of the day it's not worth it...

There IS a thing as being too nice however there's nothing wrong with it. As long as it's being directed towards the right person. If it's being directed to everybody you date and that person is not worth it and they're using that to step on you and you do nothing about it then it's fucked up and stupid. I've been accused of being "too nice" (what a shock there).

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Originally posted by Jayx1 the tourist thing is a possibility but i actually took the time to live and get to know people in some those places and these people treated everyone the same, not just me.

Let me guess...this was somewhere in south america where people didn't really have much money and were happy with what they have and their life...right?

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Originally posted by Endlesswave There IS a thing as being too nice however there's nothing wrong with it. As long as it's being directed towards the right person. If it's being directed to everybody you date and that person is not worth it and they're using that to step on you and you do nothing about it then it's fucked up and stupid. I've been accused of being "too nice" (what a shock there).

Well that's exactly what I meant...they are too nice to everyone and some people they shouldn't be nice too cause these "other" people aren't appreciative of that and are assholes themselves...


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They are trying to be nice to everyone and these people don't appreciate or care about it and these people don't see it...

Hmmm... I'm finding the cynicism (sp?) here a little startling!

"You have to be tough"

"Nobody likes a guy who does EVERYTHING you want him to..."

So why even ask?

Maybe I'm a hopeless romantic, but I always thought that love meant doing the little things, trying everything you can to make the other person happy/comfortable... if that means driving over in the middle of the night because her Dog is sick, or being a shoulder to cry on even though you want to watch the hockey game... so be it...

I guess it's a matter of what you're looking for in a mate/partner... while I agree there is a point where it's possible to be taken advantage of, why wouldn't I do the little things?

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Originally posted by starsearcher Let me guess...this was somewhere in south america where people didn't really have much money and were happy with what they have and their life...right?

it was south america and actually the people i met there were from all walks. Some were stinking rich (richer than any of us will ever be) and some were piss poor. They all seemed to generally be the same when it came to dealing with people, expecially in a social setting.

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Originally posted by Enraptured Hmmm... I'm finding the cynicism (sp?) here a little startling! "You have to be tough" "Nobody likes a guy who does EVERYTHING you want him to..." So why even ask? Maybe I'm a hopeless romantic, but I always thought that love meant doing the little things, trying everything you can to make the other person happy/comfortable... if that means driving over in the middle of the night because her Dog is sick, or being a shoulder to cry on even though you want to watch the hockey game... so be it...

Well if you do that then you are sissy!! (according to modern canadian stadards)

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Originally posted by Enraptured Maybe I'm a hopeless romantic, but I always thought that love meant doing the little things, trying everything you can to make the other person happy/comfortable... if that means driving over in the middle of the night because her Dog is sick, or being a shoulder to cry on even though you want to watch the hockey game... so be it... I guess it's a matter of what you're looking for in a mate/partner... while I agree there is a point where it's possible to be taken advantage of, why wouldn't I do the little things?

There's nothing wrong with that at all but now you're talking more about a relationship aspect here...love...I'm talking more about every day life and just random niceness to other people...and while we're on the subject as Skipper pointed out here...many girls don't like that kind of behaiour and are actually turned off by the guys that would drive in the middle of the night to see the sick dog or whatever she has...

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Well if you do that then you are sissy!! (according to modern canadian stadards)

Well, so be it. But I'm a sissy who can live with himself, and sleep well at night knowing that I've done everything I can to improve the lives of the people around me.

Go Sissies!

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Originally posted by starsearcher There's nothing wrong with that at all but now you're talking more about a relationship aspect here...love...I'm talking more about every day life and just random niceness to other people...and while we're on the subject as Skipper pointed out here...many girls don't like that kind of behaiour and are actually turned off by the guys that would drive in the middle of the night to see the sick dog or whatever she has...

Yes, I suppose you're right, I probably wouldn't drive all over town for just ANYONE's sick dog... but I hope you see my point... if Skipper is turned off by that behavious, then obviously she's not the girl for me, right? Does that make me a sissy?



PS - Sorry Skipper... I guess I'd be "too nice" for you!

No it doesn't make you a sissy but then again i never said anything about nice guys being sissies it was those other guys

If anything I was always a nice guy, I still am...but I've learned that just being nice won't get you anywhere and that you have to be tough in life (through personal experiences)...basically what I'm saying is that you should be nice to those who deserve your time effor and attention and you should be tough when you need to be.

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Originally posted by starsearcher No it doesn't make you a sissy but then again i never said anything about nice guys being sissies it was those other guys If anything I was always a nice guy, I still am...but I've learned that just being nice won't get you anywhere and that you have to be tough in life (through personal experiences)...basically what I'm saying is that you should be nice to those who deserve your time effor and attention and you should be tough when you need to be.

Yes, I believe we've reached consensus!

I agree with this.

Well said.

Everytime your name was brought up
I would act all nonchalant infront of an audience
Like if you was just another shorty I put the naughty on
But uh, truth be told you do me for a loop, this Hov
I'm too old to be frontin when I'm feeling Denzel
And you acting like you ain't appealing when you are
Stunting like you ain't my only girl when you are (I was just frontin)
I'm ready to stop when you are



Jay Z keepin' it real.

Im not saying dont stand up for yourself. But i think most people dont know how to change their behaviour appropriately. They just walk around with a huge facade instead.

10 pages later...feels like i'm still on the first

*walks over to the "too nice" side of the field*

huh? wha? oh... ok.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Im not saying dont stand up for yourself. But i think most people dont know how to change their behaviour appropriately. They just walk around with a huge facade instead.

I agree with you on this.

I used to do it myself... I was never DIRECT, and I was often left wondering why I seemed to always get passed by... I think it's possible to be nice, but still be upfront and direct about what you want.

If you like a girl, and think there may be something there, TALK TO HER ABOUT IT!

You'll never know if you don't. Life's too short folks, and the only sure thing is that nobody gets out alive!

Anyone else watched "Hitch"?

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Originally posted by EvilDust Anyone else watched "Hitch"?

Yep, I liked it. Funny, but not terribly accurate. But still funny, and a good message buried in there!

Tis better to give than to recieve.

I don't quite agree that having the 'bad boy' image equates to being confident, atleast the bad boy image I have in mind. A lot of these guys are insecure, immature, arrogant, and let's face it, lazy. To Being an ass is o much easier, there's no work involved, just don't give a fuck about anything or anyone. To me the summation of these words is not confidence.

The world would be a much better place to live in if people were nicer to eachother.

Skipper mentioned that she doesn't want a guy who is 'all over her' in the sense that he will go out of his way to comfort her. That's fine, she seems like an independant person, and as long as the other person realizes that, it's all cool.

I don't know if its fair to 'dislike' a person simply becuase he shows those attributes, some people like it some don't, but atleast give them a shot.

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I don't know if its fair to 'dislike' a person simply becuase he shows those attributes, some people like it some don't, but atleast give them a shot.

Maybe it's just me, but I find that a lot of people are very quick to jump to conlusions about everything based on one or two encounters/events. They won't spend time to figure out why something happened the way it did. (and yes, I fall into this category every so often...OK...maybe more often than I should)

Re: The official nice guys thread

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Originally posted by Jayx1 h mustang guido!

dood take it back man.




i saw ur sister at plastique man

I like to think of myself as a pretty nice guy.

Give me a mickey of vodka, and put me in a university meat market and things change quite a bit though.

Girls my age love that shit.

Re: Re: The official nice guys thread

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Originally posted by Vivid Boy dood take it back man. i saw ur sister at plastique man

No gino no cry....

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Originally posted by The Highroller Give me a mickey of vodka, and put me in a university meat market and things change quite a bit though.

hee hee, cuteness!

i wanna go to this "meat market" just to see this going on. please take me graham.

Girls like a nice guy when they are alone, but when they are out, they wanna tough guy....so everyone doens't think the girl is dating a wuss who can't protect her. Be and asshole when the two of you are alone, and you will be gone in two seconds....well any girl who has a self esteem will get rid of ya!
Women want a lil bit of both: Sensitive, caring, romantic, etc...but also protective, and take charge in the bed You just have to know when to be which

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